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brenthutch 444
QuoteHere's a real record for you, from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration National Climatic Data Center.
"2012 marked the warmest year on record for the contiguous United States with the year consisting of a record warm spring, second warmest summer, fourth warmest winter and a warmer-than-average autumn. The average temperature for 2012 was 55.3°F, 3.2°F above the 20th century average, and 1.0°F above 1998, the previous warmest year."
I marked the most important bit with bold and underlining to make sure you can't miss it.
So, I'll see you your December snowfall and raise you a whole year.
Don
I will see your contiguous United States and raise you Northern Hemisphere. FYI, GLOBALLY it looks like there will be seven or eight warmer years on record, hardly anything to get ones panties in a bunch.
brenthutch 444
Anthropomorphic Contiguous United States of America Warming? ACUSAW? Moving the goal posts are we?
kallend 2,150
QuoteQuoteHey Brent,Quotehttp://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_vis.php?ui_year=2012&ui_month=12&ui_set=2
From the Rutgers University Climate Lab.
I'm going to try this once more. The link you posted says nothing about "northern hemisphere snow cover at record levels". I tried googling "record snow", and got links like this one, about record lack of snow.
So, care to explain your thread title? Did you actually have a link to something legitimate about record snow falls? Or did you just pull that title out of your ass?
Don
I understand your confusion. You are falling into the same trap that perpetually flummoxes Kallend. Chicago, although it is located in the northern hemisphere, is NOT the same as the northern hemisphere.
http://notrickszone.com/2013/01/04/northern-hemisphere-snow-cover-sets-all-time-december-record-9-million-sq-km-more-than-32-years-ago/
You really should enroll in some English Comprehension classes.
...
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Here's the problem.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/
Back in 1999, it was understood that 1998 was NOT the warmest year in the US. Indeed, the warmest years on record were in the 1930’s. As stated on the linked page, “In the meantime, we can venture two 'predictions' on 'whither U.S. climate'. First, regarding U.S. temperature, we have argued (Hansen et al., 1999a) that the next decade will be warmer than the 1990s, rivaling if not exceeding the 1930s.”
But starting in the early 2000s, the USHCN records were adjusted, gradually making the past cooler and cooler and the present warmer and warmer. Now we have presently, “The average temperature for 2012 was 55.3°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, and 1.0°F above 1998, the previous warmest year.”
In the wee span of 13 years, 1998 went from being a half a degree C below the value of 1934 or 1935 to being the warmest ever.
I understand that NASA and NOAA are different agencies. But I also have some concerns about the climate data because a snapshot taken in 1999 has now been altered to a new snapshot. Which one is to be believed? This is a primary fuel of my skepticism.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/
Back in 1999, it was understood that 1998 was NOT the warmest year in the US. Indeed, the warmest years on record were in the 1930’s. As stated on the linked page, “In the meantime, we can venture two 'predictions' on 'whither U.S. climate'. First, regarding U.S. temperature, we have argued (Hansen et al., 1999a) that the next decade will be warmer than the 1990s, rivaling if not exceeding the 1930s.”
But starting in the early 2000s, the USHCN records were adjusted, gradually making the past cooler and cooler and the present warmer and warmer. Now we have presently, “The average temperature for 2012 was 55.3°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, and 1.0°F above 1998, the previous warmest year.”
In the wee span of 13 years, 1998 went from being a half a degree C below the value of 1934 or 1935 to being the warmest ever.
I understand that NASA and NOAA are different agencies. But I also have some concerns about the climate data because a snapshot taken in 1999 has now been altered to a new snapshot. Which one is to be believed? This is a primary fuel of my skepticism.
My wife is hotter than your wife.
brenthutch 444
QuoteQuoteQuoteHey Brent,Quotehttp://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_vis.php?ui_year=2012&ui_month=12&ui_set=2
From the Rutgers University Climate Lab.
I'm going to try this once more. The link you posted says nothing about "northern hemisphere snow cover at record levels". I tried googling "record snow", and got links like this one, about record lack of snow.
So, care to explain your thread title? Did you actually have a link to something legitimate about record snow falls? Or did you just pull that title out of your ass?
Don
I understand your confusion. You are falling into the same trap that perpetually flummoxes Kallend. Chicago, although it is located in the northern hemisphere, is NOT the same as the northern hemisphere.
http://notrickszone.com/2013/01/04/northern-hemisphere-snow-cover-sets-all-time-december-record-9-million-sq-km-more-than-32-years-ago/
You really should enroll in some English Comprehension classes.
I am sorry to say that you are no longer even worth my pity. That said, I will submit to your "English Comprehension" classes, in exchange I will teach you about science.
rushmc 23
Seems other questions are similar to yours
More recent data even
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/01/10/hottest-year-ever-skeptics-question-revisions-to-climate-data/
More recent data even
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/01/10/hottest-year-ever-skeptics-question-revisions-to-climate-data/
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
"2012 marked the warmest year on record for the contiguous United States with the year consisting of a record warm spring, second warmest summer, fourth warmest winter and a warmer-than-average autumn. The average temperature for 2012 was 55.3°F, 3.2°F above the 20th century average, and 1.0°F above 1998, the previous warmest year."
I marked the most important bit with bold and underlining to make sure you can't miss it.
So, I'll see you your December snowfall and raise you a whole year.
Don
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
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