Northern Hemisphere snow cover at record levels

[brenthutch 444]

http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_vis.php?ui_year=2012&ui_month=12&ui_set=2

From the Rutgers University Climate Lab.

[Andy9o8 2]

And why did this merit a new thread? You already started an AGW thread a couple days ago.

[brenthutch 444]

different topics, it has been well established in global warmist circles that snow, or lack thereof is prof of AGW.

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different topics.

Is not.

[masterrig 1]

We got10" of the white stuff this past Thursday, here in West Texas. Over night lows in the low 20's.


Chuck

[Andy9o8 2]

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We got10" of the white stuff this past Thursday, here in West Texas. Over night lows in the low 20's. Chuck

That's the govt plan to scare off the Mexicans.

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We got10" of the white stuff this past Thursday, here in West Texas. Over night lows in the low 20's. Chuck

That's the govt plan to scare off the Mexicans.

I don't think it's working.


Chuck

[Andy9o8 2]

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We got10" of the white stuff this past Thursday, here in West Texas. Over night lows in the low 20's. Chuck

That's the govt plan to scare off the Mexicans.

I don't think it's working. Chuck

That's the problem with the plan: unlike bears, Mexicans hibernate in the heat, not the cold. At least the ones in the old movies do.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/siesta.jpg

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We got10" of the white stuff this past Thursday, here in West Texas. Over night lows in the low 20's. Chuck

That's the govt plan to scare off the Mexicans.

I don't think it's working. Chuck

That's the problem with the plan: unlike bears, Mexicans hibernate in the heat, not the cold. At least the ones in the old movies do.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/siesta.jpg

They need to re-think that one.


Chuck

[kallend 2,150]

Yet more extreme weather, eh? Just as predicted.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[brenthutch 444]

You can’t have it both ways. Climate Models cannot predict where the next flood, drought, hurricane, heat wave, or tornado. However, when we have a flood, drought, hurricane, heat wave, or tornado the warmists claim that is just what the models predicted.

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Yet more extreme weather, eh? Just as predicted.

Since when has snow ever been extreme? Maybe for those who do not experience a lot of snow, the cold white, sometimes fluffy stuff, sometimes icy stuff may seem a little extreme. But for those of us who experience snow for a good 6 months of the year, there is nothing extreme about snow. It is all part of our daily reality we learn to live with.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[GeorgiaDon 380]

I don't see anything at the site you linked about "record levels". Can you clarify that? I hope this record isn't in the same vein as your "peer reviewed study" that was an unreviewed opinion piece.

Don

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[kallend 2,150]

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Yet more extreme weather, eh? Just as predicted.

Since when has snow ever been extreme? h.

What part of "record levels" is it that you fail to comprehend?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

Too funny ... just a few weeks ago you were whining that there was no snow and now you are whining that there is snow. What is the common denominator here? The common denominator is that there is no shortage of whine. How about some cheese to go along with your whine?

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[jakee 1,596]

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You can’t have it both ways. Climate Models cannot predict where the next flood, drought, hurricane, heat wave, or tornado. However, when we have a flood, drought, hurricane, heat wave, or tornado the warmists claim that is just what the models predicted.

Actually, you can. You don't need to be able to say when or where the next extreme weather event will occur in order to state that we should see a general increase in extreme weather events.

Expecting such specificity from a climate model is completely unrealistic.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[brenthutch 444]

Let me ask you this: Would you concede that the climate models are wrong if they predict an increase in extreme weather events and there is no subsequent increase?

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/the-big-lie-severe-weather-increasing/

“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you're being had.

"Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.

There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton

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we should see a general increase in extreme weather events

What is so extreme about snow? Some of us actually live with snow for a good 6-8 months of every year and if we don't think it is extreme, why should you. There is nothing abnormal going on this winter. This winter is like most other winters we have experienced in the past.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[Arvoitus 1]

Snow cover is useless random statistic that has no use what so ever.

Here click this and ignore all the text you can't read and just scroll to the bottom. Look at those 4 bar graphs. They represent the snow cover in Finland on Jan 15th in 4 different places. What conclusions can you draw from those graphs? Nothing, not a fucking thing. Other then that its another useless statistics some pesky nerds are collecting.

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

[Andy9o8 2]

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some pesky nerds

Hey. We have union, you know.

[ryoder 1,590]

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As of Jan. 1, Colorado's statewide snowpack was 70 percent of average — the fourth lowest snowpack in the last 32 years.

Ref: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22314564/colorado-snowpack-levels-off-slow-start-but-could

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[brenthutch 444]

Fourth lowest in the last 32 years? Really? Don't you see a problem with that stat?

[billvon 3,120]

>Fourth lowest in the last 32 years? Really? Don't you see a problem with that stat?

Sure. It doesn't give the politically correct result so it must be discarded.

I hear it's cold this winter somewhere!

[brenthutch 444]

Sure. It doesn't give the politically correct result so it must be discarded.

Priceless!

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Fourth lowest in the last 32 years? Really? Don't you see a problem with that stat?

I've lived here since 1996, and I can recall only one other ski season where the snow was this poor. So what is your point?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.