billvon 3,114 #26 January 4, 2013 >I see - so . . . why do we keep electing presidents that strive to raise the debt ceiling? Because we want free stuff without paying for it. The president (and congress, where the spending actually happens) is doing what we want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #27 January 4, 2013 Excuse me all the terms like bush era, payroll tax, tax Holliday etc had me confused about the actual tax you were talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 January 5, 2013 Quote>I see - so . . . why do we keep electing presidents that strive to raise the debt ceiling? Because we want free stuff without paying for it. The president (and congress, where the spending actually happens) is doing what we want. Who is the "We" you speak of. I never wanted any part of taking for free. That's the liberals.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #29 January 5, 2013 There's people behind both parties running the show. Reps and Dems are basically the same party. They play the middle class for suckers, keeping them in an argument that can never be won rep vs. dem. Middle class needs to wise up and form their own party with their own representatives to ensure MC is treated as good as the rich and the poor. Problem is: they are the only ones working and don't have time to form any organization. The rich our out on vacation and the poor are home watching Ophra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites