brenthutch 444 #1 December 21, 2012 http://rt.com/news/russia-freeze-cold-temperature-379/ http://photos.oregonlive.com/photo-essay/2012/12/midwest_winter_storm_this_week.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #2 December 21, 2012 This is one of the comments from the article. Quoteshtakett wrote in #18 Those are the pictures of the city of Novosibirsk, in Western Siberia, where I live. And yes the temperature is -40 in the city, and it may drop to -50 outside - in the villages. But it is not really abnormal. As far as I can remember - every winter we have temperatures of up to -40 for two-three-four weeks - almost every year. So, RT is definitely misleading you guys here.Also RT is not telling you that those who have died of cold were homeless bums, alcoholics and drunks, druggies, and people with chronic heart disease. The lowest temperature I have ever seen here in Novosibirsk was -53 in 2002. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #3 December 21, 2012 It may not be as cold as it can get, but it is pretty cold right now in Western Canada. Presently it is -18C and tonight it will dip into the -20s with a fresh blanket of snow to go along with all the other snow that has fallen since the middle of October. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #4 December 21, 2012 More global warming horrors http://notrickszone.com/2012/12/21/cold-blast-claims-over-600-lives-across-eastern-europe/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #5 December 21, 2012 >Those are the pictures of the city of Novosibirsk, in Western Siberia, where I live. He lives there, so is clearly unqualified to comment on what the weather is like there. Only Internet Experts(tm) who live thousands of miles away can know what it's really like there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #6 December 21, 2012 Quote>Those are the pictures of the city of Novosibirsk, in Western Siberia, where I live. He lives there, so is clearly unqualified to comment on what the weather is like there. Only Internet Experts(tm) who live thousands of miles away can know what it's really like there. A balmy -40, and the only victims are the disenfranchised, so it is ok. What kind of monster thinks this way? What, for the love of god, is your point? People freezing to death, in the US, Europe, Russia, and you think it is cute? You promulgate the notion that the diversion of resources from the vulnerable to a bunch of fat cat, plutocrat, cronies is a good thing? Just think what if the one million dollars given to A123 on the day it declared bankruptcy, had been diverted to blankets and warming fluids. How many lives could have been saved? On the other hand what was the benefit of that last one million handed over to a few millionaires? Where are your priorities? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,219 #7 December 24, 2012 QuoteQuote>Those are the pictures of the city of Novosibirsk, in Western Siberia, where I live. He lives there, so is clearly unqualified to comment on what the weather is like there. Only Internet Experts(tm) who live thousands of miles away can know what it's really like there. A balmy -40, and the only victims are the disenfranchised, so it is ok. What kind of monster thinks this way? What, for the love of god, is your point? People freezing to death, in the US, Europe, Russia, and you think it is cute? You promulgate the notion that the diversion of resources from the vulnerable to a bunch of fat cat, plutocrat, cronies is a good thing? Just think what if the one million dollars given to A123 on the day it declared bankruptcy, had been diverted to blankets and warming fluids. How many lives could have been saved? On the other hand what was the benefit of that last one million handed over to a few millionaires? Where are your priorities? The concept of warming still eludes you, I see. www.nytimes.com/2012/12/24/science/earth/west-antarctica-warming-faster-than-thought-study-finds.html?_r=0... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #8 December 24, 2012 "the temperature at a research station in the middle of West Antarctica has warmed by 4.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1958" Wow ONE station, it looks as if you are still struggling with the concept of global. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #9 December 24, 2012 You're right, Hutch: the ongoing existence of Winter disproves global warming. Simple thinking is the best, isn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #10 December 24, 2012 QuoteYou're right, Hutch: the ongoing existence of Winter disproves global warming. Simple thinking is the best, isn't it? Wake up June Bug, it is SUMMER in the Antarctic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #11 December 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou're right, Hutch: the ongoing existence of Winter disproves global warming. Simple thinking is the best, isn't it? Wake up June Bug, it is SUMMER in the Antarctic. Wake up yourself, pal. I was responding to your OP, citing the blizzard in the Midwest US. Oh, the horror. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #12 December 24, 2012 QuoteBut the temperature there does sometimes rise above freezing in the summer, and the new research raises the possibility that it might begin to happen more often, potentially weakening the ice sheet through surface melting. The ice sheet is already under attack at the edges by warmer ocean water, and scientists are on alert for any new threat. Anybody with a basic understanding of meteorology and climate science can destroy the statement in red. i.e., Antarctica is a desert BECAUSE it's so cold there that water vapor is precipitated out before it arrives in the core. The way to add ice to Antarctica is to warm it up a bit. Anybody who looks at the ice sheet record can destroy the conclusion in blue. Antarctica also presents its own challenges. Part of the big issue is the lack of data there. Understandably, it’s difficult to have measurements there at all, much less measurements over 100 years or so. Antarctica’s area is about 50% greater than Canada’s. Imagine having fewer than 20 active temperature gauges for all of Canada with 7 of them on Nova Scotia. It’d be kinda rough saying “we have a good idea of what’s going on in Antarctica.” Yes, there’s an “idea.” But pretty rough seeing as how they don’t have any real raw data prior to the 1950’s. And yes, if Nova Scotia has a couple of warm years, we’ll have 7 of 20 temperature gauges showing an increase in temperature, which will drive up the total statistical warmth. Sure, those gauges in Yellowknife and Whitehorse and Calgary and Thunder Bay and show some cold trends, but those 7 on Nova Scotia show way warm, dude, and steady everywhere else. (Even this is off – all but one or two of the weather stations on Antarctica are on the coast. It’s like having a weather station in Denver to give an idea of red-state climate). My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #13 December 24, 2012 Quote"the temperature at a research station in the middle of West Antarctica has warmed by 4.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1958" Wow ONE station, it looks as if you are still struggling with the concept of global. When weather being climate suits him, that's what it is. When it's the other way around he pulls out the whip.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #14 December 25, 2012 > People freezing to death, in the US, Europe, Russia, and you think it is cute? ?? Nope. I am glad they have an Internet Expert(tm) like yourself to save them, regardless of what's really going on. > Where are your priorities? Sorry! I'll go buy an SUV. I am sure that will save them all from the horrors of your imagination. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #15 December 25, 2012 Quote Quote You're right, Hutch: the ongoing existence of Winter disproves global warming. Simple thinking is the best, isn't it? Wake up June Bug, it is SUMMER in the Antarctic. Yep, and winter in Germany/Europe. Yesterday, we had a freezing 20.9°C (69.6° F) in Munich. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,219 #16 December 25, 2012 QuoteQuote"the temperature at a research station in the middle of West Antarctica has warmed by 4.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1958" Wow ONE station, it looks as if you are still struggling with the concept of global. When weather being climate suits him, that's what it is. When it's the other way around he pulls out the whip. FAIL. One cold snap in Russia is touted as refuting global warming, yet you call a rise in average temperature over 54 years "weather". You need to take some lessons in vocabulary.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 December 25, 2012 Quote Quote Quote "the temperature at a research station in the middle of West Antarctica has warmed by 4.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1958" Wow ONE station, it looks as if you are still struggling with the concept of global. When weather being climate suits him, that's what it is. When it's the other way around he pulls out the whip. FAIL. One cold snap in Russia is touted as refuting global warming, yet you call a rise in average temperature over 54 years "weather". You need to take some lessons in vocabulary. I wish you would make up your mind"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,219 #18 December 25, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote "the temperature at a research station in the middle of West Antarctica has warmed by 4.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1958" Wow ONE station, it looks as if you are still struggling with the concept of global. When weather being climate suits him, that's what it is. When it's the other way around he pulls out the whip. FAIL. One cold snap in Russia is touted as refuting global warming, yet you call a rise in average temperature over 54 years "weather". You need to take some lessons in vocabulary. I wish you would make up your mind I wish you'd get an education.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 December 25, 2012 It's cold in Russia and it is also cold in Canada at the same time. That means the north is pretty cold at the moment. Of course this isn't unusual, it is rather normal. It is winter after all. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,219 #20 December 25, 2012 QuoteIt's cold in Russia and it is also cold in Canada at the same time. That means the north is pretty cold at the moment. Of course this isn't unusual, it is rather normal. It is winter after all. Tell it to brenthutch, he seems to think it evidence of a conspiracy.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #21 December 26, 2012 Quote Quote It's cold in Russia and it is also cold in Canada at the same time. That means the north is pretty cold at the moment. Of course this isn't unusual, it is rather normal. It is winter after all. Tell it to brenthutch, he seems to think it evidence of a conspiracy. This coming from a guy who posted a blurb about how the lack of snow in chicago was somehow proof of AGW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,219 #22 December 26, 2012 Quote Quote Quote It's cold in Russia and it is also cold in Canada at the same time. That means the north is pretty cold at the moment. Of course this isn't unusual, it is rather normal. It is winter after all. Tell it to brenthutch, he seems to think it evidence of a conspiracy. This coming from a guy who posted a blurb about how the lack of snow in chicago was somehow proof of AGW. Having the old reading comprehension problem again, I see.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #23 December 26, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #24 December 26, 2012 making popcorn ... This should be good.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,219 #25 December 26, 2012 Quotemaking popcorn ... This should be good. Take those vocabulary lessons yet?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
