kelpdiver 2 #151 December 17, 2012 Quote Very powerful speech by President Obama in Newtown. Let's just say: if we need a sex offender registry, we surely need a gun owner registry!!! For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. So gun ownership is akin to child molestation (or merely being a kid sexting another)? I see the point of my post went well over your head. You don't see any issue with advertizing the location of the nearest AR-15 to steal? How fucking stupid would it be to give burglars inventory sheets? And of course unproductive - there's 300M guns out there already, and the felons can't be compelled to self incriminate themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #152 December 17, 2012 Honestly. I prefer a child molester as a neighbor. Vs. an Ar15/ AK47 owner. Whoever owns s.th. like an Ar15 is a potential mass murderer (27!). Armed w/ a dick, you'll get at most one. Let's take the gloves off, and expose gun nuts for what they truely are. NUTS!!!! QuoteQuote Very powerful speech by President Obama in Newtown. Let's just say: if we need a sex offender registry, we surely need a gun owner registry!!! For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. So gun ownership is akin to child molestation (or merely being a kid sexting another)? I see the point of my post went well over your head. You don't see any issue with advertizing the location of the nearest AR-15 to steal? How fucking stupid would it be to give burglars inventory sheets? And of course unproductive - there's 300M guns out there already, and the felons can't be compelled to self incriminate themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #153 December 17, 2012 Quote Honestly. I prefer a child molester as a neighbor. Vs. an Ar15/ AK47 owner. A provable stupid stance to take - you need only examine the recidivist rate of child molesters and the near zero rate of crime committed with "assault weapons" compared to the numbers sold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #154 December 17, 2012 I think what we are seeing is an absolute, frothing at the mouth, DSM IV example of hoplophobia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #155 December 17, 2012 Quote Honestly. I prefer a child molester as a neighbor. Vs. an Ar15/ AK47 owner. Whoever owns s.th. like an Ar15 is a potential mass murderer (27!). Armed w/ a dick, you'll get at most one. Let's take the gloves off, and expose gun nuts for what they truely are. NUTS!!!! QuoteQuote Very powerful speech by President Obama in Newtown. Let's just say: if we need a sex offender registry, we surely need a gun owner registry!!! For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. So gun ownership is akin to child molestation (or merely being a kid sexting another)? I see the point of my post went well over your head. You don't see any issue with advertizing the location of the nearest AR-15 to steal? How fucking stupid would it be to give burglars inventory sheets? And of course unproductive - there's 300M guns out there already, and the felons can't be compelled to self incriminate themselves. Wow, are you that afraid of life? "Nuts"? hmm, Olympic Champions, Hunters (who provide food for them selves, their families and those with out), SEO's, PPD's, competitors, LEO's, just to name a few. There all "Nuts"? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #156 December 17, 2012 Quote I prefer a child molester as a neighbor. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,089 #157 December 17, 2012 >You don't see any issue with advertizing the location of the nearest AR-15 to steal? I always thought that was dumb, as is posting here and giving the world a list of guns a poster has available for theft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #158 December 17, 2012 Quote Honestly. I prefer a child molester as a neighbor. Vs. an Ar15/ AK47 owner. Whoever owns s.th. like an Ar15 is a potential mass murderer (27!). I worry more about people who drive cars which produce over 30,000 fatalities a year versus 38 (over the last five years) for spree killers. I also worry about beer drinkers who also own cars. Quote Armed w/ a dick, you'll get at most one. Mass murderers are evil but often not stupid. The Happy Land night club killer took out 87 with a can of gasoline and Timothy McVeigh got 168 with some racing fuel and fertilizer without giving their victims a chance to fight back each time they paused to aim or stopped to reload. Quote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. That's not going to get you anywhere unless you're planning on stealing it or just want to avoid inviting someone to dinner that might yell at you for being ignorant about guns. Pennsylvania police noted that "assault weapons" made up just 1.4% of guns submitted to forensics examiners in homicides. For the first decade California's Attorney General was required to report the sorts of firearms used in crimes he found a low of 0% (0 of 173) and high of 6% (8 of 147). If your neighbor murders you with a gun it's unlikely to be an "assault weapon." Finding out which of your neighbors have concealed carry permits and only inviting them to your soirees would make you safer. The Texans looked and crime statistics after instituting their shall-issue concealed carry permits and learned that non-permit holding Texan males over 21 were 7.7 times more likely to be arrested for a violent crime and females 7.5 with only 26% those cases adjudicated with accused permit holders resulting in convictions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #159 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteDunblane was pretty much a stand alone event in British history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungerford_massacre QuoteThe Hungerford massacre occurred in Hungerford, Berkshire, England, on 19 August 1987. The gunman, 27-year-old Michael Robert Ryan (b. 18 May 1960), armed with two semi-automatic rifles and a handgun, shot and killed sixteen people including his mother, and wounded fifteen others, then fatally shot himself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings QuoteThe Cumbria shootings was a killing spree that occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, Derrick Bird, killed 12 people and injured 11 others before killing himself in Cumbria, England. I know about Hungerford, it didn't wasn't a school shooting, my comment stands. Derreck bird was after the ban so whats your point?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #160 December 17, 2012 Quote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. It is really none of your business.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #161 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteDunblane was pretty much a stand alone event in British history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungerford_massacre QuoteThe Hungerford massacre occurred in Hungerford, Berkshire, England, on 19 August 1987. The gunman, 27-year-old Michael Robert Ryan (b. 18 May 1960), armed with two semi-automatic rifles and a handgun, shot and killed sixteen people including his mother, and wounded fifteen others, then fatally shot himself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings QuoteThe Cumbria shootings was a killing spree that occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, Derrick Bird, killed 12 people and injured 11 others before killing himself in Cumbria, England. I know about Hungerford, it didn't wasn't a school shooting, my comment stands. Derreck bird was after the ban so whats your point? I miss interpreted that you meant mass shootings where as you apparently only meant school shootings.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #162 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. It is really none of your business. Why not?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #163 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. It is really none of your business. Why not? Dumb question.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #164 December 17, 2012 What's in your closet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #165 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. It is really none of your business. Why not? Dumb question. Remember, he would have the gov know everything you have so the gov can take it if those like him deem it needed or necessary As long as it is not his stuff or money"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #166 December 17, 2012 QuoteWhat's in your closet? All kinds of stuff.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #167 December 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. It is really none of your business. Why not? Dumb question. Remember, he would have the gov know everything you have so the gov can take it if those like him deem it needed or necessary As long as it is not his stuff or money I strongly suspect I pay the govt. a lot more than you do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #168 December 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. It is really none of your business. Why not? Dumb question. Remember, he would have the gov know everything you have so the gov can take it if those like him deem it needed or necessary As long as it is not his stuff or money I strongly suspect I pay the govt. a lot more than you do. Well dont that make a guy proud"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #169 December 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. It is really none of your business. Why not? Dumb question. Remember, he would have the gov know everything you have so the gov can take it if those like him deem it needed or necessary As long as it is not his stuff or money I strongly suspect I pay the govt. a lot more than you do. Well dont that make a guy proud Your short term memory is pathetic. Unlike you, I don't WHINE about paying taxes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #170 December 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. It is really none of your business. Why not? Dumb question. Remember, he would have the gov know everything you have so the gov can take it if those like him deem it needed or necessary As long as it is not his stuff or money I strongly suspect I pay the govt. a lot more than you do. Well dont that make a guy proud Your short term memory is pathetic. Unlike you, I don't WHINE about paying taxes. Straight to the twsit mode (like a good little liberal) Since your memeory seems to be failing I dont whine about taxes I pay mine and that is ok I do have conversation about tax rates being too high And since I am not in the upper levels I am not talking about my taxes So, yet again, in a lame attempt to make a failed point, I get to chuckle at you Thanks "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #171 December 17, 2012 Quote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. Really? How about an inventory of his kitchen while you're at it, knives, meat mallet, frying pan, rolling pin. God knows what he has in his garage too! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #172 December 17, 2012 Huh, you can prove anything with facts When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #173 December 17, 2012 Well we are talking about school shootings. It is absurd that people cite the hand gun ban as proof that it works because there hasn't been a mass school shooting since Dunblane when there hadn't been a mass school shooting prior to Dunblane either not in centuries!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #174 December 17, 2012 Quote Quote For I like to know if my neighbor has an AR-15 or AK-47 in his closet. Really? How about an inventory of his kitchen while you're at it, knives, meat mallet, frying pan, rolling pin. God knows what he has in his garage too! To the point, the FAA will tell you what kind of plane I have in my hangar, right down to the engine type and serial number. The DMV will tell you what cars I have in my garage. Why should killing machines be given different treatment from cars, planes and sex offenders?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #175 December 17, 2012 Quote What's in your closet? The odd bone or two When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites