More good stuff in the news today

[rushmc 23]

MI becomes the 24 right to work state


Now more people are have freedom of choice

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[beowulf 1]

If Unions are so great then they shouldn't have any trouble keeping members. Freedom of choice is always a good idea.

[rushmc 23]

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If Unions are so great then they shouldn't have any trouble keeping members. Freedom of choice is always a good idea.

Yes

But is does not seem to be working that way

Again
for anyone out there that has not seen my posts on unions, I have no problem with rank n file

It is the ass hat leadership of the unions I have a problem with

I was a member for 17 years of the IBEW

And lest we forget, unions are one of the biggest special insterest groups out there

and THIS fact is why the Democrats are so upset

Less money for them

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[regulator 0]

My wife works for dow chemical. She is always telling me about one particular operator that has never passed his initial training. The guy has used more than 65% of his time in the company on FMLA and she is constantly telling me how horrible he is...never shows up to work...never passes the review...has a bad attitude. He is in a union and they have been protecting him the entire time he was supposedly 'working' there...basically so he could be off so others could get 'his' OT. This person survived in a work environment for close to 7 years while producing almost nothing in return. He was just fired last week.

[BillyVance 35]

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This person survived in a work environment for close to 7 years while producing almost nothing in return. He was just fired last week.

6 years and 9 months too late...

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[rushmc 23]

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My wife works for dow chemical. She is always telling me about one particular operator that has never passed his initial training. The guy has used more than 65% of his time in the company on FMLA and she is constantly telling me how horrible he is...never shows up to work...never passes the review...has a bad attitude. He is in a union and they have been protecting him the entire time he was supposedly 'working' there...basically so he could be off so others could get 'his' OT. This person survived in a work environment for close to 7 years while producing almost nothing in return. He was just fired last week.

Much like the teachers who are legally barred from contact with children yet still show up (in a room dedicated for them) 8 hours a day to collect their pay. They cannot get rid of them because of the union and the contract

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_F3oev06i0&feature=youtu.be

Today at the MI state house

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[beowulf 1]

Unions have a long history of violence. The Roosevelt administration supported the unions and their violence.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Much like the teachers who are legally barred from contact with children yet still show up (in a room dedicated for them) 8 hours a day to collect their pay. They cannot get rid of them because of the union and the contract

I am no lover of unions. But, did the union unilaterally decide this and the employer didn't fight it, or was there some judicial body or arbitration process involved?

[rushmc 23]

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Much like the teachers who are legally barred from contact with children yet still show up (in a room dedicated for them) 8 hours a day to collect their pay. They cannot get rid of them because of the union and the contract

I am no lover of unions. But, did the union unilaterally decide this and the employer didn't fight it, or was there some judicial body or arbitration process involved?

Let me see if I can find the info

But this has been going on for decades if I remember correctly

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

I think this one is from 09

I just skimmed it so I think it is one of the stories

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-state-of-education-funding-thousands-of-teachers-paid-to-do-nothing

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

So it is part of a process outlined in the contract executed by the employer and by the union. Why would you only blame the union for it? The employer agreed to the process.

[rushmc 23]

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So it is part of a process outlined in the contract executed by the employer and by the union. Why would you only blame the union for it? The employer agreed to the process.

Sure they did

But the employer here is the state

And the un-holy aliance continues

BTW

dont you think 5 years in some cases is a bit long?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln