kelpdiver 2 #26 December 12, 2012 QuoteQuotethere's some sort of logical leap you're making that makes no sense here. No different than the logical leap in the belief that every killing with a gun as a tool, would have taken place without that gun as a tool. while Fox commentators said this, I said more specifically in this case, a suicidal prime of life NFL player would easily have done the same actions without a gun. And we already covered the good/bad around open container laws - you didn't really like the outcome of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #27 December 12, 2012 I won't participate in this thread until we outlaw subways. or cameras. either way ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #28 December 12, 2012 Quote Fox commentators said this, I said more specifically in this case, a suicidal prime of life NFL player would easily have done the same actions without a gun. There is your first logical leap. Quote And we already covered the good/bad around open container laws - you didn't really like the outcome of that. And there is your second logical leap. Thank you for proving my point Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #29 December 12, 2012 Quotethere's some sort of logical leap you're making that makes no sense here. Leap? My only point is that people shouldn't argue metaphors instead of the actual issues, because the metaphors are never quite the same. I'm not sure which part of that difficult?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #30 December 12, 2012 QuoteLeap? My only point is that people shouldn't argue metaphors instead of the actual issues, because the metaphors are never quite the same. I'm not sure which part of that difficult? Let me explain it to you. You likely said that to somebody who either is, or perceived to be progun. In that case you are automatically considere to be a rabid anti gun nut. All further communication will be absed on that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #31 December 12, 2012 Quote Let me explain it to you. You likely said that to somebody who either is, or perceived to be progun. In that case you are automatically considere to be a rabid anti gun nut. actually, there's an astounding difference between you and jakee. with you, I would have ignored the post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #32 December 12, 2012 Quote Quote Fox commentators said this, I said more specifically in this case, a suicidal prime of life NFL player would easily have done the same actions without a gun. There is your first logical leap. Quote And we already covered the good/bad around open container laws - you didn't really like the outcome of that. And there is your second logical leap. Thank you for proving my point The fact is he did it. And he used a gun. There's an assumption that had he NOT had a gun things would have ended differently. A logical leap. There are logical leaps being made on all sides here. This happens when there are subjective policy points one wants to make. Neither is more or less valid. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #33 December 12, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Fox commentators said this, I said more specifically in this case, a suicidal prime of life NFL player would easily have done the same actions without a gun. There is your first logical leap. Quote And we already covered the good/bad around open container laws - you didn't really like the outcome of that. And there is your second logical leap. Thank you for proving my point The fact is he did it. And he used a gun. There's an assumption that had he NOT had a gun things would have ended differently. A logical leap. There are logical leaps being made on all sides here. This happens when there are subjective policy points one wants to make. Neither is more or less valid. So we should ban knives Photo of knife And spoons Yahoo Answers Or perhaps any of these 12 items should be banned That way leaping would not be neccesary. In fact we should ban leaping, it can kill you.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 December 12, 2012 QuoteThere are logical leaps being made on all sides here. Which is exactly what I said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #35 December 14, 2012 QuoteQuote One squeeze of the trigger and it's all over. Much more drawn out to do it with your hands, or a lamp or fireplace poker, though of course those will work if you really mean it. Don Keep in mind it wasn't simple "one squeeze of the trigger"... he shot her 9 times. I think that defines really meaning it. Shooting her 9-times was pure rage and anger. He wanted he dead. We don't know what she did to set him off. The guy definately has anger issues. It's like someone stabbing someone once or 41-times. Theguy definately has anger issues. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites