jclalor 12 #1 December 5, 2012 And another embarrassment for this country. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/4/senate-rejects-un-disabilities-treaty/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #2 December 5, 2012 Quote And another embarrassment for this country. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/4/senate-rejects-un-disabilities-treaty/ Why?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #3 December 5, 2012 Dont discriminate...there are JUST AS MANY left wingnuts as there are on the right...but of course you wont call THEM names like looney. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 December 5, 2012 QuoteThe U.N. adopted the treaty in 2006. President Obama agreed to it in 2009, though it failed to move through the Senate — which must ratify all treaties — until this year So the filibuster-proof Senate could have rubber-stamped this thing in 2009 or 2010 but didn't because the President wanted to wait on it? There are a couple of embarrassments to talk about, aren't there? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #5 December 5, 2012 We already have the ADA why do we need this??You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 December 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteDont discriminate...there are JUST AS MANY left wingnuts as there are on the right...but of course you wont call THEM names like looney. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3328459;search_string=michael%20moore%20fat%20idiot;#3328459 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #7 December 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteWe already have the ADA why do we need this?? The treaty is based On our ADA, it would set standards word wide, making travel more predictable for the disabled. Some of the more rational GOP members voted in favor, but mention those two letters "UN" and some in the right start frothing at the mouth. QuoteHe and other opponents were not swayed by support for the treaty from some of the GOP's prominent veterans, including the 89-year-old Dole, who was disabled during World War II; Sen. John McCain, who also suffered disabling injuries in Vietnam; Sen. Dick Lugar, the top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee; and former Attorney General Dick Thornburgh. Eight Republicans voted to approve the treaty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #8 December 5, 2012 We don't need it, but it signals a spirit of cooperation, as opposed to a "our way or the highway" attitude. Of course, some people prefer that approach. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #9 December 5, 2012 QuoteWe don't need it, but it signals a spirit of cooperation, as opposed to a "our way or the highway" attitude. Of course, some people prefer that approach. Wendy P. If we already have rules in place that address the access issues why do we need more? If other countries need to come up to our standards then that is on them. edited to add: I work in an industry that is affected by the ADA standards. i do not want another set of rules I will need to take time to learn/interpret to continue doing business.You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 December 5, 2012 QuoteThe treaty is based On our ADA Instant problem for me. Any time I see "based on" something, it's a hint that significant license has been taken with it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #11 December 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe treaty is based On our ADA Instant problem for me. Any time I see "based on" something, it's a hint that significant license has been taken with it. How would a treaty, being based on the ADA, Specifically affect your life in America? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #12 December 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe treaty is based On our ADA Instant problem for me. Any time I see "based on" something, it's a hint that significant license has been taken with it. How would a treaty, being based on the ADA, Specifically affect your life in America? It could affect my business. What does based on mean?? Will I have a new set of rules to follow when designing a sign package for a hospital for instance? edited to add: My industry is only a small part of the ADA rules. Almost every trade in the construction industry has ADA standards that they must abide by.You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #13 December 5, 2012 Every one of these new requirements places a burden on businesses. That cost is passed on to consumers. What possible ADA components don't exist here that need to be put in play?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #14 December 5, 2012 QuoteHow would a treaty, being based on the ADA, Specifically affect your life in America? If it doesn't, then what's the big deal? We don't need any more unnecessary, non-binding, unenforceable symbolic huggies and kissies to duke it out over. If we've already got the substantive rights already, then let us be satisfied and not waste time and money and effort re-doing it. If it DOES affect my rights, well, then, I'd like to see how it does. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #15 December 5, 2012 F$ck the UN "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
