Skyrad 0 #1 November 29, 2012 So many people here slag off the Police yet no one seems to notice when they do good every day. '"The officer said, 'I have these size 12 boots for you, they are all-weather. Let's put them on and take care of you,'" ..... "The officer squatted down on the ground and proceeded to put socks and the new boots on this man.' http://tiny.cc/4ymjowWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #2 November 29, 2012 Since it seems any time a cop has to use mace or a stun gun it gets posted here within seconds......I was actually waiting to see how long it took here for someone to post this item. you broke the ice ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #3 November 29, 2012 When I was a cop, I wouldn't give homeless guys money, but I would take them to eat. Some of them made good company. I knew lots of good cops. Not all of them, though. And I can almost always defend the ones who taze or shoot. The people who want the cops to take verbal abuse, physical assaults, and not defend themselves are often the ones who can't even have a civil discussion with someone on the internet. I find that interesting. But in the end, cops chose a noble profession.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #4 November 30, 2012 As a Ride Captain with the Patriot Guard Riders, I interface with law enforcement officers on a regular basis. I hold them all in high honor and respect. The next time you see a LEO taking a break, walk up to them and say, thank you for your service. Notice their reaction. Be advised, they do not shake hands however.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #5 November 30, 2012 Thats a great story. But if every cop would every homeless man a pair of boots, people would scream that the homeless do not deserve freebies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #6 November 30, 2012 Depends. They will shake hands in many situations. In some situations, letting someone take control of your dominant hand is a bad thing. Also, don't try to talk to a cop when he is in the middle of a traffic stop that you are not involved in. That's just stupid, but I've had it happen.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #7 November 30, 2012 Fireman have much bigger balls than cops... They sell more tickets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #8 November 30, 2012 QuoteThe next time you see a LEO taking a break, walk up to them and say, thank you for your service. Why? Is he going to thank me for working hard to keep an economy going so he can have a job? What makes his job more important than my job, or other people's jobs? This adoration of all things uniform is tiring. They chose their job, deal with the consequences. Thank and award them when they do an exceptional job. This officer deserves the recognition he is getting. Many others don't. I'll thank an officer after one thanks me for working hard so he can be the highest paid LEO in the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #9 December 1, 2012 Its an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 December 3, 2012 QuoteThats a great story. But if every cop would every homeless man a pair of boots, people would scream that the homeless do not deserve freebies. a friend linked this on facebook - don't know how true it is http://www.salon.com/2012/12/03/homeless_man_gifted_boots_by_cop_has_already_sold_them_on/ ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,643 #11 December 3, 2012 I volunteer two days a week in a homeless shelter. I find this to be entirely believable. I'd also find it believable to find that the guy still had them. Such is life. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #12 December 3, 2012 QuoteQuoteI volunteer two days a week in a homeless shelter. I find this to be entirely believable. I'd also find it believable to find that the guy still had them. I guess now he wants money and he's back to being barefoot. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/homeless-man-boots-shoeless-article-1.1212149 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #13 December 3, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI volunteer two days a week in a homeless shelter. I find this to be entirely believable. I'd also find it believable to find that the guy still had them. I guess now he wants money and he's back to being barefoot. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/homeless-man-boots-shoeless-article-1.1212149 as long as he reported the gift and the sale as taxable events and paid his fair share...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wolfriverjoe 1,523 #14 December 4, 2012 QuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. It also fairly recent. Partly the 90-91 Gulf War, more after the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington DC. We (overall US citizens) treated the veterans returning from Viet Nam very badly. We basically blamed the poor bastards who survived being drafted and sent over there for the mistakes and stupidity of the politicians. So when we had another war, and this time sent a lot of National Guard and Reserve units over, we understood that they weren't the ones making the decision to go. It helped a lot that the units were usually composed of people from a fairly small geographic area. There were 2 units sent from my town. They had mostly people from within 20 or 30 miles of the city. I personally knew 5 or 6 that went over. It made it a lot easier to care about the soldiers when it happened that way. And it was easy to go from caring about the soldiers I knew personally to caring about all of them. And a lot of people didn't realize how dangerous of a job being a firefighter or a cop was until a whole lot of them died on Sept 11. The good old "when everyone else was running out, they ran in" thing. It was also pretty common to "hate the pigs" in the same timeframe of hating veterans returning from Viet Nam. Again, blaming the street cop for the policy decisions of the politicians (although it's fair to say that there were abuses by both cops and soldiers). So hero worship of the soldiers, cops and firefighters became fashionable. The NFL players and coaches wearing "FDNY" and "NYPD" hats on the sidelines right after the attacks was just the start of it. I have a lot of respect for what they do, and the sacrafices they make, but I don't worship them."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #15 December 4, 2012 QuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. yeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events silly americans I'll personally be sure to find someone that works in a novelty toy store and thank them for false poop. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #16 December 4, 2012 Quoteyeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events Construction workers do the same thing. Don't see too much adoration for them being displayed. Quotethat's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events Policy makers do a lot more in that regard....they certainly get absolutely no adoration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #17 December 4, 2012 QuotePolicy makers do a lot more in that regard... I can tell you really believe that..it's an interesting opinion ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #18 December 4, 2012 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Policy makers do a lot more in that regard... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can tell you really believe that..it's an interesting opinion Well, policy makers decide on funding for defence and other projects. Policy makers set foreign policy and decide on acts of war. Some of their decisions put the country or state or municipality at greater risk, some make it safer. Yet, I don't see a great adoration for policy makers. Instead adoration seems to be reserved for those in a uniform. They all get funded by taxpayer money. When was the last time anybody in uniform thanked the average working person for their contribution towards their salary and benefits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #19 December 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. yeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events silly americans I'll personally be sure to find someone that works in a novelty toy store and thank them for false poop. How about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycop 0 #20 December 6, 2012 Very true, Give the homeless something they can use, clothes, food, etc. If you give them cash they will shoot it up or drink it up in short order. Sad to say, they are usually homeless for a reason. I used to work in the concession stand during NFL games to raise money for my son's baseball team. We used to bring a garbage bag of leftover hotdogs, metts and brats to the homeless guys begging after the game, it was Christmas every Sunday (at least those Sundays). Police work is a thankless job, you see the dark side of humanity almost everyday. I've been in the game for over 25yrs, it's made me a decent living, but changed me in ways I never thought it would. Getting called out on Christmas Eve to fish a dead fetus out of a toilet ain't fun. That's just one example of many over my career. Not whining, I chose this so I deal with things as they come up. There are losers and dipshits in every career field, police work is no difference. The vast, vast majority of cops are very hard working people, who want to make a difference. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #21 December 6, 2012 QuoteHow about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service? You must hang around assholes. I always thank the nurse and doctor at visits For that matter - I also try to make a point to show appreciation to my team members here at work. I purposely try to thank support staff regularly and randomly here at work also - (our admins, the security guy at our entrance, the guy that cleans our toilets). Seems it would nice to be acknowledged more than just once a year during performance appraisals - even by strangers. But I do consider law enforcement and firefighters and servicemen to be people that I'll always just say 'thanks for serving'. It's not a big deal and just casual in introductions. But a bit different to the other items where I just consider it decent to considerate to others. Dekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. Unless they're assholes, then I just ignore them. really, what's the harm? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #22 December 6, 2012 QuoteDekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. I highly doubt that I am the only one who calls this love afair with anything uniform adoration. And your above examples are not similar. When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. Being nice is not something over the top. I am Canadian, we are known for being overly nice and polite. There is a difference between being nice and walking up to a cop only to say thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #23 December 6, 2012 QuoteQuoteHow about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service? You must hang around assholes. I always thank the nurse and doctor at visits For that matter - I also try to make a point to show appreciation to my team members here at work. I purposely try to thank support staff regularly and randomly here at work also - (our admins, the security guy at our entrance, the guy that cleans our toilets). Seems it would nice to be acknowledged more than just once a year during performance appraisals - even by strangers. But I do consider law enforcement and firefighters and servicemen to be people that I'll always just say 'thanks for serving'. It's not a big deal and just casual in introductions. But a bit different to the other items where I just consider it decent to considerate to others. Dekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. Unless they're assholes, then I just ignore them. really, what's the harm? No harm, in fact being polite makes the world a nicer place, maybe not you but it seems that some people will just walk up to strangers in uniform and thank them for their service which is somewhat different to thanking a healthcare professional at an appointment.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #24 December 6, 2012 QuoteQuoteDekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. I highly doubt that I am the only one who calls this love afair with anything uniform adoration. And your above examples are not similar. When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. Being nice is not something over the top. I am Canadian, we are known for being overly nice and polite. There is a difference between being nice and walking up to a cop only to say thank you. Exactly.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #25 December 6, 2012 Quote When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. I've never seen that. Usually it meeting someone. "what do you for a living"..."I'm a cop"..."how about that, thanks very much for your service" it's part of an interaction, not a source of interaction but either way, I'm not annoyed if someone feels that way - not that big a deal. People are allowed to think and act differently than me. I'm gracious that way ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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rehmwa 2 #13 December 3, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI volunteer two days a week in a homeless shelter. I find this to be entirely believable. I'd also find it believable to find that the guy still had them. I guess now he wants money and he's back to being barefoot. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/homeless-man-boots-shoeless-article-1.1212149 as long as he reported the gift and the sale as taxable events and paid his fair share...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wolfriverjoe 1,523 #14 December 4, 2012 QuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. It also fairly recent. Partly the 90-91 Gulf War, more after the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington DC. We (overall US citizens) treated the veterans returning from Viet Nam very badly. We basically blamed the poor bastards who survived being drafted and sent over there for the mistakes and stupidity of the politicians. So when we had another war, and this time sent a lot of National Guard and Reserve units over, we understood that they weren't the ones making the decision to go. It helped a lot that the units were usually composed of people from a fairly small geographic area. There were 2 units sent from my town. They had mostly people from within 20 or 30 miles of the city. I personally knew 5 or 6 that went over. It made it a lot easier to care about the soldiers when it happened that way. And it was easy to go from caring about the soldiers I knew personally to caring about all of them. And a lot of people didn't realize how dangerous of a job being a firefighter or a cop was until a whole lot of them died on Sept 11. The good old "when everyone else was running out, they ran in" thing. It was also pretty common to "hate the pigs" in the same timeframe of hating veterans returning from Viet Nam. Again, blaming the street cop for the policy decisions of the politicians (although it's fair to say that there were abuses by both cops and soldiers). So hero worship of the soldiers, cops and firefighters became fashionable. The NFL players and coaches wearing "FDNY" and "NYPD" hats on the sidelines right after the attacks was just the start of it. I have a lot of respect for what they do, and the sacrafices they make, but I don't worship them."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #15 December 4, 2012 QuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. yeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events silly americans I'll personally be sure to find someone that works in a novelty toy store and thank them for false poop. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #16 December 4, 2012 Quoteyeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events Construction workers do the same thing. Don't see too much adoration for them being displayed. Quotethat's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events Policy makers do a lot more in that regard....they certainly get absolutely no adoration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #17 December 4, 2012 QuotePolicy makers do a lot more in that regard... I can tell you really believe that..it's an interesting opinion ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #18 December 4, 2012 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Policy makers do a lot more in that regard... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can tell you really believe that..it's an interesting opinion Well, policy makers decide on funding for defence and other projects. Policy makers set foreign policy and decide on acts of war. Some of their decisions put the country or state or municipality at greater risk, some make it safer. Yet, I don't see a great adoration for policy makers. Instead adoration seems to be reserved for those in a uniform. They all get funded by taxpayer money. When was the last time anybody in uniform thanked the average working person for their contribution towards their salary and benefits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #19 December 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. yeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events silly americans I'll personally be sure to find someone that works in a novelty toy store and thank them for false poop. How about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycop 0 #20 December 6, 2012 Very true, Give the homeless something they can use, clothes, food, etc. If you give them cash they will shoot it up or drink it up in short order. Sad to say, they are usually homeless for a reason. I used to work in the concession stand during NFL games to raise money for my son's baseball team. We used to bring a garbage bag of leftover hotdogs, metts and brats to the homeless guys begging after the game, it was Christmas every Sunday (at least those Sundays). Police work is a thankless job, you see the dark side of humanity almost everyday. I've been in the game for over 25yrs, it's made me a decent living, but changed me in ways I never thought it would. Getting called out on Christmas Eve to fish a dead fetus out of a toilet ain't fun. That's just one example of many over my career. Not whining, I chose this so I deal with things as they come up. There are losers and dipshits in every career field, police work is no difference. The vast, vast majority of cops are very hard working people, who want to make a difference. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #21 December 6, 2012 QuoteHow about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service? You must hang around assholes. I always thank the nurse and doctor at visits For that matter - I also try to make a point to show appreciation to my team members here at work. I purposely try to thank support staff regularly and randomly here at work also - (our admins, the security guy at our entrance, the guy that cleans our toilets). Seems it would nice to be acknowledged more than just once a year during performance appraisals - even by strangers. But I do consider law enforcement and firefighters and servicemen to be people that I'll always just say 'thanks for serving'. It's not a big deal and just casual in introductions. But a bit different to the other items where I just consider it decent to considerate to others. Dekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. Unless they're assholes, then I just ignore them. really, what's the harm? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #22 December 6, 2012 QuoteDekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. I highly doubt that I am the only one who calls this love afair with anything uniform adoration. And your above examples are not similar. When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. Being nice is not something over the top. I am Canadian, we are known for being overly nice and polite. There is a difference between being nice and walking up to a cop only to say thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #23 December 6, 2012 QuoteQuoteHow about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service? You must hang around assholes. I always thank the nurse and doctor at visits For that matter - I also try to make a point to show appreciation to my team members here at work. I purposely try to thank support staff regularly and randomly here at work also - (our admins, the security guy at our entrance, the guy that cleans our toilets). Seems it would nice to be acknowledged more than just once a year during performance appraisals - even by strangers. But I do consider law enforcement and firefighters and servicemen to be people that I'll always just say 'thanks for serving'. It's not a big deal and just casual in introductions. But a bit different to the other items where I just consider it decent to considerate to others. Dekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. Unless they're assholes, then I just ignore them. really, what's the harm? No harm, in fact being polite makes the world a nicer place, maybe not you but it seems that some people will just walk up to strangers in uniform and thank them for their service which is somewhat different to thanking a healthcare professional at an appointment.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #24 December 6, 2012 QuoteQuoteDekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. I highly doubt that I am the only one who calls this love afair with anything uniform adoration. And your above examples are not similar. When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. Being nice is not something over the top. I am Canadian, we are known for being overly nice and polite. There is a difference between being nice and walking up to a cop only to say thank you. Exactly.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #25 December 6, 2012 Quote When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. I've never seen that. Usually it meeting someone. "what do you for a living"..."I'm a cop"..."how about that, thanks very much for your service" it's part of an interaction, not a source of interaction but either way, I'm not annoyed if someone feels that way - not that big a deal. People are allowed to think and act differently than me. I'm gracious that way ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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wolfriverjoe 1,523 #14 December 4, 2012 QuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. It also fairly recent. Partly the 90-91 Gulf War, more after the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington DC. We (overall US citizens) treated the veterans returning from Viet Nam very badly. We basically blamed the poor bastards who survived being drafted and sent over there for the mistakes and stupidity of the politicians. So when we had another war, and this time sent a lot of National Guard and Reserve units over, we understood that they weren't the ones making the decision to go. It helped a lot that the units were usually composed of people from a fairly small geographic area. There were 2 units sent from my town. They had mostly people from within 20 or 30 miles of the city. I personally knew 5 or 6 that went over. It made it a lot easier to care about the soldiers when it happened that way. And it was easy to go from caring about the soldiers I knew personally to caring about all of them. And a lot of people didn't realize how dangerous of a job being a firefighter or a cop was until a whole lot of them died on Sept 11. The good old "when everyone else was running out, they ran in" thing. It was also pretty common to "hate the pigs" in the same timeframe of hating veterans returning from Viet Nam. Again, blaming the street cop for the policy decisions of the politicians (although it's fair to say that there were abuses by both cops and soldiers). So hero worship of the soldiers, cops and firefighters became fashionable. The NFL players and coaches wearing "FDNY" and "NYPD" hats on the sidelines right after the attacks was just the start of it. I have a lot of respect for what they do, and the sacrafices they make, but I don't worship them."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 December 4, 2012 QuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. yeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events silly americans I'll personally be sure to find someone that works in a novelty toy store and thank them for false poop. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #16 December 4, 2012 Quoteyeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events Construction workers do the same thing. Don't see too much adoration for them being displayed. Quotethat's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events Policy makers do a lot more in that regard....they certainly get absolutely no adoration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #17 December 4, 2012 QuotePolicy makers do a lot more in that regard... I can tell you really believe that..it's an interesting opinion ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #18 December 4, 2012 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Policy makers do a lot more in that regard... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can tell you really believe that..it's an interesting opinion Well, policy makers decide on funding for defence and other projects. Policy makers set foreign policy and decide on acts of war. Some of their decisions put the country or state or municipality at greater risk, some make it safer. Yet, I don't see a great adoration for policy makers. Instead adoration seems to be reserved for those in a uniform. They all get funded by taxpayer money. When was the last time anybody in uniform thanked the average working person for their contribution towards their salary and benefits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #19 December 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteIts an American thing, I don't know of any other country where people thank people in uniform for their service (unless they have actually done something fir them personally). If I walked up to a cop and thanked him for his service he'd think I was taking the piss. yeah - what's our problem. thanking people that do a job, for not much pay, sometimes putting themselves in harms way, that's all about protecting us from bad people or bad events silly americans I'll personally be sure to find someone that works in a novelty toy store and thank them for false poop. How about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #20 December 6, 2012 Very true, Give the homeless something they can use, clothes, food, etc. If you give them cash they will shoot it up or drink it up in short order. Sad to say, they are usually homeless for a reason. I used to work in the concession stand during NFL games to raise money for my son's baseball team. We used to bring a garbage bag of leftover hotdogs, metts and brats to the homeless guys begging after the game, it was Christmas every Sunday (at least those Sundays). Police work is a thankless job, you see the dark side of humanity almost everyday. I've been in the game for over 25yrs, it's made me a decent living, but changed me in ways I never thought it would. Getting called out on Christmas Eve to fish a dead fetus out of a toilet ain't fun. That's just one example of many over my career. Not whining, I chose this so I deal with things as they come up. There are losers and dipshits in every career field, police work is no difference. The vast, vast majority of cops are very hard working people, who want to make a difference. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 December 6, 2012 QuoteHow about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service? You must hang around assholes. I always thank the nurse and doctor at visits For that matter - I also try to make a point to show appreciation to my team members here at work. I purposely try to thank support staff regularly and randomly here at work also - (our admins, the security guy at our entrance, the guy that cleans our toilets). Seems it would nice to be acknowledged more than just once a year during performance appraisals - even by strangers. But I do consider law enforcement and firefighters and servicemen to be people that I'll always just say 'thanks for serving'. It's not a big deal and just casual in introductions. But a bit different to the other items where I just consider it decent to considerate to others. Dekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. Unless they're assholes, then I just ignore them. really, what's the harm? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #22 December 6, 2012 QuoteDekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. I highly doubt that I am the only one who calls this love afair with anything uniform adoration. And your above examples are not similar. When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. Being nice is not something over the top. I am Canadian, we are known for being overly nice and polite. There is a difference between being nice and walking up to a cop only to say thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #23 December 6, 2012 QuoteQuoteHow about people who work in hospitals, I never hear people thanking them for their service? You must hang around assholes. I always thank the nurse and doctor at visits For that matter - I also try to make a point to show appreciation to my team members here at work. I purposely try to thank support staff regularly and randomly here at work also - (our admins, the security guy at our entrance, the guy that cleans our toilets). Seems it would nice to be acknowledged more than just once a year during performance appraisals - even by strangers. But I do consider law enforcement and firefighters and servicemen to be people that I'll always just say 'thanks for serving'. It's not a big deal and just casual in introductions. But a bit different to the other items where I just consider it decent to considerate to others. Dekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. Unless they're assholes, then I just ignore them. really, what's the harm? No harm, in fact being polite makes the world a nicer place, maybe not you but it seems that some people will just walk up to strangers in uniform and thank them for their service which is somewhat different to thanking a healthcare professional at an appointment.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #24 December 6, 2012 QuoteQuoteDekker calls it 'adoration', I don't get that idea that just being nice is something over the top......, courtesy and appreciation isn't that difficult and it's a little thing but much appreciated. I highly doubt that I am the only one who calls this love afair with anything uniform adoration. And your above examples are not similar. When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. Being nice is not something over the top. I am Canadian, we are known for being overly nice and polite. There is a difference between being nice and walking up to a cop only to say thank you. Exactly.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #25 December 6, 2012 Quote When was the last time you randomly walked into a hospital and thanked nurses and doctors. I've never seen that. Usually it meeting someone. "what do you for a living"..."I'm a cop"..."how about that, thanks very much for your service" it's part of an interaction, not a source of interaction but either way, I'm not annoyed if someone feels that way - not that big a deal. People are allowed to think and act differently than me. I'm gracious that way ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
