billvon 3,132 #26 November 28, 2012 >just like I said to the people who called for the impeachment of Bush, and Obama, if >there is proof of wrongdoing, make it seen, and get charges filed. That would require proof of breaking a law. As far as I know, it is not illegal in Florida to change voting laws to benefit your own party by disenfranchising the other party's voters. (Note that another method of doing this is called 'gerrymandering' and has a long, mostly-legal history in the US.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #27 November 28, 2012 Quote>just like I said to the people who called for the impeachment of Bush, and Obama, if >there is proof of wrongdoing, make it seen, and get charges filed. That would require proof of breaking a law. As far as I know, it is not illegal in Florida to change voting laws to benefit your own party by disenfranchising the other party's voters. (Note that another method of doing this is called 'gerrymandering' and has a long, mostly-legal history in the US.) right - there is a big divide between illegal and two faced hypocrisy with an attack on the Constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #28 November 28, 2012 You need to go back to school. Don't you know the correct response to any criticism about Benghazi is to scream "Racism" or to accuse the critic of hating women? Sheesh..... How quickly some forget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #29 December 2, 2012 Great Interview... with Allen West's opinion on the matter. And the interviewer clearly needs to read a book on Progressivism.... American Progressivism: A Reader would be a great start. http://www.npr.org/2012/11/30/166241059/what-allen-west-and-abraham-lincoln-have-in-common Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #30 December 12, 2012 >I am for every American having the right to vote one time. Anyone who attenpts >to suppress that right through whatever means, should be jailed for a long enough >period of time to make it distasteful to others. How long should this guy go to jail? ================================ Scott Tranter, Republican Consultant: Voter ID And Long Lines Help Our Side John Stephens 12/10/2012 8:29 pm EST Republican campaign consultant Scott Tranter appeared on a panel Monday hosted by the Pew Center on the States to discuss the long lines and voter ID controversies that plagued the 2012 election. In his comments, Tranter seemed to imply that he believed these issues were helpful to Republicans and should be pursued for that reason. "A lot of us are campaign officials -- or campaign professionals -- and we want to do everything we can to help our side. Sometimes we think that's voter ID, sometimes we think that's longer lines -- whatever it may be," Tranter said with a laugh. Tranter owns Vlytics, a company that was paid more than $3,000 by former presidential candidate Mitt Romney's campaign for "data consulting." ================================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #31 December 12, 2012 Quote>I am for every American having the right to vote one time. Anyone who attenpts >to suppress that right through whatever means, should be jailed for a long enough >period of time to make it distasteful to others. How long should this guy go to jail? ================================ Scott Tranter, Republican Consultant: Voter ID And Long Lines Help Our Side John Stephens 12/10/2012 8:29 pm EST Republican campaign consultant Scott Tranter appeared on a panel Monday hosted by the Pew Center on the States to discuss the long lines and voter ID controversies that plagued the 2012 election. In his comments, Tranter seemed to imply that he believed these issues were helpful to Republicans and should be pursued for that reason. "A lot of us are campaign officials -- or campaign professionals -- and we want to do everything we can to help our side. Sometimes we think that's voter ID, sometimes we think that's longer lines -- whatever it may be," Tranter said with a laugh. Tranter owns Vlytics, a company that was paid more than $3,000 by former presidential candidate Mitt Romney's campaign for "data consulting." ================================== What law did he break? Do you really believe this doesn't go on from both sides? Seriously? Did the NBPP thugs end up in jail? I don't recall you rattling on about that incident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #32 December 12, 2012 >What law did he break? None. It is legal to suppress the vote in some ways, as shown by several examples in this thread. I was responding to your statement: "Anyone who attempts to suppress that right through whatever means, should be jailed for a long enough period of time to make it distasteful to others." Did you just mean democrats? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #33 December 12, 2012 Quote>What law did he break? None. It is legal to suppress the vote in some ways, as shown by several examples in this thread. I was responding to your statement: "Anyone who attempts to suppress that right through whatever means, should be jailed for a long enough period of time to make it distasteful to others." Did you just mean democrats? No idea of what you are talking about. I thought I made my views very clear. Oh, wait...you mean do I agree with your definition? OK now I see what you are saying. We have laws, when someone breaks those laws, they should be arrested, tried and punished if they are guilty. That clear it up for you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #34 December 12, 2012 So it's only voter suppression if it involves illegal behavior? How about having people who watch the voting, and make sure that there isn't any violence at the polling place? I don't believe that's illegal, is it? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #35 December 12, 2012 QuoteSo it's only voter suppression if it involves illegal behavior? How about having people who watch the voting, and make sure that there isn't any violence at the polling place? I don't believe that's illegal, is it? Wendy P. If they stand there with a club in their hand it is. Your argument is non-sensical. Like saying all speeding is bad without defining what speeding is. If I am going 55 in a 35, I'm speeding. If I'm doing 55 in a 65, I'm not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #36 December 12, 2012 In general the states without a voter ID requirement supported BHO. Those states accounted for 66 EC votes. If those states had gone to Romney he would have won. But, so it goes. The Radical Left cheats with greater efficiency.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #37 December 12, 2012 No voter ID laws means you are cheating? At least you are consistent in not needing any proof before you believe something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #38 December 12, 2012 >In general the states without a voter ID requirement supported BHO. And in general the moocher states supported Romney, ironically enough. >The Radical Left cheats with greater efficiency. So far the only actual evidence points to the right cheating. I am sure that in the imaginations of many right wingers, the left stole the election with their unfair use of . . . something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #39 December 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteNo voter ID laws means you are cheating? At least you are consistent in not needing any proof before you believe something. Ouch!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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