christelsabine 1 #26 November 26, 2012 Quote Quote Quote .... If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Exactly. Quote Someone will be over in a moment to search your house. No warrant needed. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Also, I've been a police officer and a criminal defense attorney. Don't get me started on how trustworthy the police are... Depends of the country and its police force. As we mostly trust in our policemen a bit more than people in other countries are doing, where's the problem? I know my local sheriff, he knows me and what I own, so what? BTW: How many times were you in need to use a hand gun during your European stay, how many times until today were you in danger in Europe? I'm currently in Europe. I can't leave my stuff on my motorcycle like I do in the US. Everything here seems to grow legs. The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. Every house has motion sensitive exterior lighting and double cylinder locks. I am far less comfortable here. That was not my question. Leaving stuff openly is nowhere a good idea. I really doubt you can do this in the US (except perhaps on the parking area of the WH). (You really posted that: ".... like I do in the US" ??? Nice joke.) Last time I was in the US, I left my handbag on the passenger seat of the car. 2 policemen on horses strongly asked me NOT to do that, if I need to leave the bag, it should be locked away in the trunk. That much for leaving your stuff in the open ..... You're feeling less comfortable? Perhaps, you're missing some equipment which you're not allowed to carry over here. Again: How many times did you need a hand gun for protection in Belgium? (Did not know them Belgians are that thieving magpies ) dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #27 November 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteAs pointed out by your comment about hooligans what drives the 'gun crime' is in fact the culture of a nation rather than a limited availability of firearms as criminals do not purchase weapons from registered and licensed firearms dealers but from other criminals. So your gun crime is rising, and your response is to make it easier for everyone to get guns? Maybe to reduce traffic accidents, we should put more cars on the road! apples and orangesWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #28 November 26, 2012 Quote The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. In Belgium??? Come on, there are plenty of parts of the USA where you wouldn't even leave you bike parked, everywhere has good and bad areas. In Sebastian FL I saw a bike that had been burnt outside a bikers bar, why? Because it was Japanese! The people I purchased my house from wanted to get rid of their car so left the keys in the ignition and the window open day and night when it was parked outside, it was there for three months before they gave up.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #29 November 26, 2012 Quote Quote The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. In Belgium??? Come on, there are plenty of parts of the USA where you wouldn't even leave you bike parked, everywhere has good and bad areas. In Sebastian FL I saw a bike that had been burnt outside a bikers bar, why? Because it was Japanese! The people I purchased my house from wanted to get rid of their car so left the keys in the ignition and the window open day and night when it was parked outside, it was there for three months before they gave up. Yup. In Belgium. "This location may be authorized a move-in allowance for security as the Department of State has determined that this is a high crime or terrorism location. For more information on the MIHA Security allowance see the Joint Federal Travel Regulation - Chapter 10, Paragraph 10026, and Appendix N."I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #30 November 26, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote .... If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Exactly. Quote Someone will be over in a moment to search your house. No warrant needed. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Also, I've been a police officer and a criminal defense attorney. Don't get me started on how trustworthy the police are... Depends of the country and its police force. As we mostly trust in our policemen a bit more than people in other countries are doing, where's the problem? I know my local sheriff, he knows me and what I own, so what? BTW: How many times were you in need to use a hand gun during your European stay, how many times until today were you in danger in Europe? I'm currently in Europe. I can't leave my stuff on my motorcycle like I do in the US. Everything here seems to grow legs. The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. Every house has motion sensitive exterior lighting and double cylinder locks. I am far less comfortable here. That was not my question. Leaving stuff openly is nowhere a good idea. I really doubt you can do this in the US (except perhaps on the parking area of the WH). (You really posted that: ".... like I do in the US" ??? Nice joke.) Last time I was in the US, I left my handbag on the passenger seat of the car. 2 policemen on horses strongly asked me NOT to do that, if I need to leave the bag, it should be locked away in the trunk. That much for leaving your stuff in the open ..... You're feeling less comfortable? Perhaps, you're missing some equipment which you're not allowed to carry over here. Again: How many times did you need a hand gun for protection in Belgium? (Did not know them Belgians are that thieving magpies ) Yup. I would leave my helmet, jacket and such on my bike when I went into a store or something in the US. I can't leave it with the bike even on post here. I can't say I have 'needed' a firearm here or in the US. But then, I haven't needed the triangle, reflective vest, fire extinguisher, breathalyzers, first aid kit or other stuff I'm required to carry in my car here, either. Yes. I feel less comfortable here, because I know criminals have a much better chance of being armed than I do. After many years of combat training, I know the value of a weapon.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #31 November 26, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote .... If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Exactly. Quote Someone will be over in a moment to search your house. No warrant needed. If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Also, I've been a police officer and a criminal defense attorney. Don't get me started on how trustworthy the police are... Depends of the country and its police force. As we mostly trust in our policemen a bit more than people in other countries are doing, where's the problem? I know my local sheriff, he knows me and what I own, so what? BTW: How many times were you in need to use a hand gun during your European stay, how many times until today were you in danger in Europe? I'm currently in Europe. I can't leave my stuff on my motorcycle like I do in the US. Everything here seems to grow legs. The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. Every house has motion sensitive exterior lighting and double cylinder locks. I am far less comfortable here. That was not my question. Leaving stuff openly is nowhere a good idea. I really doubt you can do this in the US (except perhaps on the parking area of the WH). (You really posted that: ".... like I do in the US" ??? Nice joke.) Last time I was in the US, I left my handbag on the passenger seat of the car. 2 policemen on horses strongly asked me NOT to do that, if I need to leave the bag, it should be locked away in the trunk. That much for leaving your stuff in the open ..... You're feeling less comfortable? Perhaps, you're missing some equipment which you're not allowed to carry over here. Again: How many times did you need a hand gun for protection in Belgium? (Did not know them Belgians are that thieving magpies ) Yup. I would leave my helmet, jacket and such on my bike when I went into a store or something in the US. I can't leave it with the bike even on post here. I can't say I have 'needed' a firearm here or in the US. But then, I haven't needed the triangle, reflective vest, fire extinguisher, breathalyzers, first aid kit or other stuff I'm required to carry in my car here, either. Yes. I feel less comfortable here, because I know criminals have a much better chance of being armed than I do. After many years of combat training, I know the value of a weapon. Wow. How many times have you been robbed in Belgium then? W/re to your post No. 30 to Jamile: It seems you are referring to a small group suspicious Djihadists recently caught by Belgian, Duch and German forces, which were under observation since about 2009. That might have been the reason to increase safety regulations made by your guys - Jeez, tell the Belgians they are at "risk", they will laugh at you ... One thing is for sure: Every time I've been in Belgium (except the DZ's, they are great!), I was nearly dying of boredom and not b/c of that dangerous country. (Excusez-moi, cher Belges!) Quote But then, I haven't needed the triangle, reflective vest, fire extinguisher, breathalyzers, first aid kit or other stuff I'm required to carry in my car here, either. Well, we Europeans care for our drivers, they are fine tax payers. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #32 November 27, 2012 Quote Quote Quote The area is considered so dangerous that the US government reimburses me up to twice my outrageous monthly rent for me to get an alarm system. In Belgium??? Come on, there are plenty of parts of the USA where you wouldn't even leave you bike parked, everywhere has good and bad areas. In Sebastian FL I saw a bike that had been burnt outside a bikers bar, why? Because it was Japanese! The people I purchased my house from wanted to get rid of their car so left the keys in the ignition and the window open day and night when it was parked outside, it was there for three months before they gave up. Yup. In Belgium. "This location may be authorized a move-in allowance for security as the Department of State has determined that this is a high crime or terrorism location. For more information on the MIHA Security allowance see the Joint Federal Travel Regulation - Chapter 10, Paragraph 10026, and Appendix N." Wow, thats pretty funny. You must get a fortune for a war zone then!As Christel said Belgium is renown for being a place where nothing ever happens. There is a terrorism threat all over the world but I'd have thought you'd be at far higher risk of a terrorist threat in any US city more than in Belgium.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #33 November 27, 2012 Quote I can't say I have 'needed' a firearm here or in the US. But then, I haven't needed the triangle, reflective vest, fire extinguisher, breathalyzers, first aid kit or other stuff I'm required to carry in my car here, either. Is that mandatory in Belgium? And a breathalyser??? Although its a good idea to carry some of that none of it is a legal requirement either in the UK or Ireland.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #34 November 27, 2012 I used to think that a gun grab here in the U.S. would result in a BIG fight.................. but now................... ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #35 November 27, 2012 All the equipment is required and inspected at the annual TC (government inspection). In addition, I am about to have to prove that I have a set of snow tires for the vehicle or all-weather tires. The breathalyzer is for when I cross into France, and I have to have two of the approved variety. My point was that I have never 'needed' any of this. For Christal to impose a requirement that I have previously 'needed' a firearm before I can have one is ludicrous. If I 'needed' one previously, I am likely dead now and it all goes moot. It's a very emotional argument and the reason I've stopped responding to her posts.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #36 November 27, 2012 Wow, thats almost unbelievable. No wonder Brussels is always coming out with bizarre over bureaucratic legislation if thats how they behave in their own country. As for the breathalysers thats just incredible.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #37 November 27, 2012 QuoteThis is a good crime-fighting tool Canada disagrees with you. You do know that criminals are not going to register weapons right? I guess we could end drug crime by just requiring that dealers get a license then? Quoteand the police are in favor of it. The police are also in favor of being able to stop and search anyone for any reason.... Does that mean it is a good idea to let them? Quote If you're not a criminal, you've got nothing to worry about. Then you are fine with random stops and searches... I mean if you have nothing to hide, your have nothing to worry about.... Right? So, do you support random stop and searches? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
