kallend 2,182 #1 November 23, 2012 Traditional American values are alive and well.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #2 November 23, 2012 Still not sure where you were born or what your citizenship is professor, but you clearly don't have any idea what traditional American values are. Stick to physics, or go back to work on your telepathy WABAK machine.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 November 23, 2012 Quote. . . but you clearly don't have any idea what traditional American values are. Well, I was born in the USA and as far as I can tell greed has always been a part of America's values. From Columbus "discovering" America to the settlement of Jamestown, to slavery, to the California gold rush, boom, bust, depression, recession . . . Greed seems to always be a large motivating factor. I don't thinks capitalism works without at least a certain amount of greed. Now, we have an unofficial holiday devoted to it. I dunno. Seems to me like the good professor hit the nail on the head.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #5 November 23, 2012 Greed IS a good thing... excessive greed is not. And greed, can easily be accompanied by charity. The OP, is a clear example of what happens when you replace God, with materials. Not Jesus, not religion... God. Read George Washington... our Constitution, fails without a moral and virtuous people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #6 November 23, 2012 QuoteNow, we have an unofficial holiday devoted to it. That is such a dumb statement... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 November 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteNow, we have an unofficial holiday devoted to it. That is such a dumb statement... Are you saying "Black Friday" doesn't exist? Really? What, if not greed, does "Black Friday" celebrate? Deals and shopping? I fail the see the difference. Please explain it to me.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #8 November 23, 2012 QuoteQuote. . . but you clearly don't have any idea what traditional American values are. Well, I was born in the USA and as far as I can tell greed has always been a part of America's values. From Columbus "discovering" America to the settlement of Jamestown, to slavery, to the California gold rush, boom, bust, depression, recession . . . Greed seems to always be a large motivating factor. I don't thinks capitalism works without at least a certain amount of greed. Now, we have an unofficial holiday devoted to it. I dunno. Seems to me like the good professor hit the nail on the head. Except he wasn't talking about greed. The linked article talks about two victims of DWI vehicular assault, an alleged parking lot robbery, and an asshole battering people to get to the front of the line. Wait, that last one does have American values undertones - self defense in the face of assault and douche baggery. Then there's the child neglect. So tell me about how a story of black Friday violence and stupidity fits your version of Tradition American Values. Oh, and while you're at it, find me a country that doesn't have blood on it's hands. If you can't, give up the USA-bashing and give me something uniquely relevant to the US for your diatribe.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueblur 0 #9 November 23, 2012 I wouldn't call Black Friday a holiday whatsoever. It is (or was) merely the day in the year retailers turned over to a fiscal profit. More than anything, it's a major pain in the ass for employees of those stores that have to be there stupid early or stupid late to prep for it. I'm a Circuit City alum myself.In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts. - RiggerLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 November 23, 2012 QuoteI wouldn't call Black Friday a holiday whatsoever. I said unofficial and in this case a rose is a rose is a rose, except this one doesn't smell quite as sweet. I dare you to compare the advertisements for Black Friday sales to any other holiday sales like the ones held for Presidents' Day or the Fourth of July and point out the differences. Certainly the nation's retailers see it as an unofficial holiday and uniquely American too.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #11 November 23, 2012 Come on republicans, lets hear one of those "USA!" chants and drown this stupid lefty out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueblur 0 #12 November 23, 2012 And I said not a holiday whatsoever (includes unofficial...). The retailers feed off the sense that everyone thinks there are AMAZING deals never to be had again, and some of them are. There are also a great majority of items that are marked up just for this weekend to turn a higher profit and make up for a few of the low or negative margin deals. This day is the unofficial kickoff to the holiday shopping season. Hell, I remember counting 4x the amount of cash on Black Fridays as any other day of the year. Still, for the stress and pressure it puts on employees and shoppers alike, it isn't worth all this shit. I just went an hour ago and bought a TV for $100 more than the Wally World doorbuster deal, that is a name brand and better ratings. And I didn't have to feed into the crap this morning.In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts. - RiggerLee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 November 23, 2012 QuoteAnd I said not a holiday whatsoever (includes unofficial...). The retailers feed off the sense that everyone thinks there are AMAZING deals never to be had again, and some of them are. There are also a great majority of items that are marked up just for this weekend to turn a higher profit and make up for a few of the low or negative margin deals. This day is the unofficial kickoff to the holiday shopping season. Hell, I remember counting 4x the amount of cash on Black Fridays as any other day of the year. Still, for the stress and pressure it puts on employees and shoppers alike, it isn't worth all this shit. I just went an hour ago and bought a TV for $100 more than the Wally World doorbuster deal, that is a name brand and better ratings. And I didn't have to feed into the crap this morning. I realize you believe you're countering my arguement, but I think you're just proving it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #14 November 23, 2012 So now big shopping days are the same as holidays? What's next, you going to say big jumping days are holidays? Huzzah for safety day, new unofficial holiday. How about big tv watching days? You think the superbowl and awards shows are holidays? Anything else you want to add to the list?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #15 November 23, 2012 Actually I believe this is traditional liberal values at work...something for damned near nothing. I don't participate.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 November 23, 2012 QuoteHuzzah for safety day, new unofficial holiday. How about big tv watching days? You think the superbowl and awards shows are holidays? Yes! http://www.holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/index.htm Your argument sounds stupider by the moment. We have literally hundreds of unofficial holidays we celebrate. Are you telling me you've never heard of them? You've never participated in "Talk like a pirate day"? I don't believe you.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #17 November 23, 2012 QuoteStill not sure where you were born or what your citizenship is professor, but you clearly don't have any idea what traditional American values are. Stick to physics, or go back to work on your telepathy WABAK machine. So it's OK when greed drives hedge fund managers, options traders, Wall St. bankers and other capitalists, but not when it drives ordinary citizens. Got it; you have a double standard.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #18 November 23, 2012 Quote Quote Still not sure where you were born or what your citizenship is professor, but you clearly don't have any idea what traditional American values are. Stick to physics, or go back to work on your telepathy WABAK machine. So it's OK when greed drives hedge fund managers, options traders, Wall St. bankers and other capitalists, but not when it drives ordinary citizens. Got it; you have a double standard. Greed drives other things also. Is it greedy to want to provide for my family? Is it greedy to want to be able to feed my kids? Is it greedy to want to be able to give my kids a college education with out putting them in debt? I suppose the drive to expand your wealth and create a better life for you and your family would be considered evil.... Liberals have had the drive domesticated out of them. They all sit around waiting for there next government check.... Or sit on their ever expanding ass in their do nothing union job or pretend to teach in their tenured teaching jobs that they can't be fired from...."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #19 November 23, 2012 QuoteRead George Washington... our Constitution, fails without a moral and virtuous people. What does that have to do with God?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #20 November 24, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Still not sure where you were born or what your citizenship is professor, but you clearly don't have any idea what traditional American values are. Stick to physics, or go back to work on your telepathy WABAK machine. So it's OK when greed drives hedge fund managers, options traders, Wall St. bankers and other capitalists, but not when it drives ordinary citizens. Got it; you have a double standard. Greed drives other things also. Is it greedy to want to provide for my family? Is it greedy to want to be able to feed my kids? Is it greedy to want to be able to give my kids a college education with out putting them in debt? I suppose the drive to expand your wealth and create a better life for you and your family would be considered evil.... Liberals have had the drive domesticated out of them. They all sit around waiting for there next government check.... Or sit on their ever expanding ass in their do nothing union job or pretend to teach in their tenured teaching jobs that they can't be fired from.... WRONG on just about every count, but I excuse your ignorance.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #21 November 24, 2012 >So now big shopping days are the same as holidays? No, black friday is more of an unofficial holiday. It's a day people traditionally have off. It has no official name but has come to mean "big shopping day." >Huzzah for safety day, new unofficial holiday. How about big tv watching days? You >think the superbowl and awards shows are holidays? Anything else you want to add to >the list? Add whatever you like. Halloween has become something of an unofficial holiday; more of a tradition, and lately a big deal when it comes to parties, costume sales etc. Around here Cinco de Mayo is fairly big, if unofficial in the US. San Diego has a beer week that's gotten pretty big. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #22 November 24, 2012 I'm just curious, but on both sides of this argument (especially those that have already replied): Did you go shopping today, or did you avoid it like the plague it is?lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #23 November 24, 2012 You guys are so easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #24 November 24, 2012 I don't know any Republicans, at least in my neighborhood or family, that participate in Black Friday sales. It is not worth the hassle. All the news coverage in the Tampa Bay Area was by Black journalists featuring Black bargain hunters. And, we all now how they voted.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #25 November 24, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Still not sure where you were born or what your citizenship is professor, but you clearly don't have any idea what traditional American values are. Stick to physics, or go back to work on your telepathy WABAK machine. So it's OK when greed drives hedge fund managers, options traders, Wall St. bankers and other capitalists, but not when it drives ordinary citizens. Got it; you have a double standard. Greed drives other things also. Is it greedy to want to provide for my family? Is it greedy to want to be able to feed my kids? Is it greedy to want to be able to give my kids a college education with out putting them in debt? I suppose the drive to expand your wealth and create a better life for you and your family would be considered evil.... Liberals have had the drive domesticated out of them. They all sit around waiting for there next government check.... Or sit on their ever expanding ass in their do nothing union job or pretend to teach in their tenured teaching jobs that they can't be fired from.... WRONG on just about every count, but I excuse your ignorance. We can't excuse yours.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
