piisfish 140 #1 November 20, 2012 apparently it works there has been gunfire reported in the US embassy in Israel, where some whacko injured a guard, he was reportedly armed with a knife and an axe. The guards shot at him, but was arrested uninjured. http://www.trust.org/alertnet/multimedia/pictures/detail.dot?mediaInode=ed9d1763-4b7d-43d9-afba-c59147ac15d5scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 November 20, 2012 Quote The guards shot at him, but was arrested uninjured. These guys could have great careers as police officers. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #3 November 20, 2012 QuoteThese guys could have great careers as police officers. In a civilized country, they would indeed... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMFin 0 #4 November 20, 2012 Quote Quote The guards shot at him, but was arrested uninjured. These guys could have great careers as police officers. LOL. Only in the US it is better to have someone arrested injured rather than uninjured. In other countries we would consider these guards as pros. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #5 November 20, 2012 to me the guy is already lucky enough to be alive.... you don't go attacking guards at an Embassy in such countries if you have any kind of self respect for your own lifescissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #6 November 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe guards shot at him, but was arrested uninjured. These guys could have great careers as police officers. LOL. Only in the US it is better to have someone arrested injured rather than uninjured. In other countries we would consider these guards as pros. If they arrested him uninjured having not fired their weapons in an embassy, missing him, and having their rounds go off to who knows where then I'd agree with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMFin 0 #7 November 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe guards shot at him, but was arrested uninjured. These guys could have great careers as police officers. LOL. Only in the US it is better to have someone arrested injured rather than uninjured. In other countries we would consider these guards as pros. If they arrested him uninjured having not fired their weapons in an embassy, missing him, and having their rounds go off to who knows where then I'd agree with you. Maby they just fired a warning shot? On the other hand, considering the fact that the guards are US marines, they most likely arent trained to give warning shots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 November 20, 2012 Quote LOL. Only in the US it is better to have someone arrested injured rather than uninjured. In other countries we would consider these guards as pros. firing wildly is not a sign of professionalism. You do understand that those bullets keep traveling, yes? It was only a few months ago that two New York City cops injured 8 bystanders in their missed shots at a gunman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMFin 0 #9 November 20, 2012 Quote firing wildly is not a sign of professionalism. You do understand that those bullets keep traveling, yes? It was only a few months ago that two New York City cops injured 8 bystanders in their missed shots at a gunman. During my military service I was assigned to guard a military warehouse for a brief period of time. We were trained to fire warning shots to the ground before aiming directly to the threat. We were explicitly told to fire warning shots to the ground so they later on could be dug up from the ground to be used as an evidence towards having gone through all other reasonable means of action before opening fire towards the threat. Therefore, having missed the threat necessarily mean the person failed. I might very well be on the contrary. IMO this protocol seems smart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #10 November 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteIn other countries we would consider these guards as pros. If they arrested him uninjured having not fired their weapons in an embassy, missing him, and having their rounds go off to who knows where then I'd agree with you. Maby they just fired a warning shot? On the other hand, considering the fact that the guards are US marines, they most likely arent trained to give warning shots. Firing a warning shot in a public setting such as this strikes me as a pretty bad idea. I wasn't there though and the article doesn't really set the scene very completely, so who knows. If a guy comes into an embassy wielding a knife and an axe, however, I'm not sure how far a warning shot would go to improve the situation... "Arrrrrrrgh! Eat Axe! Arrrrrrrrgh!" "That was a warning." "Oh, you've called my bluff, good sir. I figured the firearms you're carrying were for show... I'm terribly sorry." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #11 November 20, 2012 Quoteconsidering the fact that the guards are US marines, they most likely arent trained to give warning shots. The guard was an Israeli, not a Marine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 November 20, 2012 What do you base that on? Another source? The OP source only calls the victim a security guard. It's not clear whether they mean a USMC embassy guard, an Israeli law enforcement officer, or a security guard of unknown origin.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 November 20, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIn other countries we would consider these guards as pros. If they arrested him uninjured having not fired their weapons in an embassy, missing him, and having their rounds go off to who knows where then I'd agree with you. Maby they just fired a warning shot? On the other hand, considering the fact that the guards are US marines, they most likely arent trained to give warning shots. Firing a warning shot in a public setting such as this strikes me as a pretty bad idea. I wasn't there though and the article doesn't really set the scene very completely, so who knows. If a guy comes into an embassy wielding a knife and an axe, however, I'm not sure how far a warning shot would go to improve the situation... "Arrrrrrrgh! Eat Axe! Arrrrrrrrgh!" "That was a warning." "Oh, you've called my bluff, good sir. I figured the firearms you're carrying were for show... I'm terribly sorry." According to my sources, the guard yelled, "Your one warning. Cut it out"; effectively ending the incident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #14 November 20, 2012 QuoteWhat do you base that on? Another source? The OP source only calls the victim a security guard. It's not clear whether they mean a USMC embassy guard, an Israeli law enforcement officer, or a security guard of unknown origin. AP: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_US_EMBASSY_ATTACK?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-11-20-06-20-23 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #15 November 20, 2012 Quote We were trained to fire warning shots to the ground before aiming directly to the threat. If "ground" is concrete, or dirt with any rocks, that is a really bad idea."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 November 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe guards shot at him, but was arrested uninjured. These guys could have great careers as police officers. LOL. Only in the US it is better to have someone arrested injured rather than uninjured. In other countries we would consider these guards as pros. If they arrested him uninjured having not fired their weapons in an embassy, missing him, and having their rounds go off to who knows where then I'd agree with you. This.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #17 November 21, 2012 Quote According to my sources, the guard yelled, "Your one warning. Cut it out"; effectively ending the incident. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #18 November 21, 2012 Taking knives to a gunfight works for Gurkhas and a few others, not so much for your everyday scumbag or psychopath. Warning shots don't really work for anyone who works for public safety.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 2 #19 November 22, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotereply] reply] It may depend on where the warning shot lands. The sholder of the axe wielding arm would be my choise. Firing a warning shot in a public setting such as this strikes me as a pretty bad idea. I wasn't there though and the article doesn't really set the scene very completely, so who knows. If a guy comes into an embassy wielding a knife and an axe, however, I'm not sure how far a warning shot would go to improve the situation... "Arrrrrrrgh! Eat Axe! Arrrrrrrrgh!" "That was a warning." "Oh, shit. Where's my axe? Fuck, where's my arm?"Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
