weekender 0 #1 November 14, 2012 NYT article, "Occupy Wall St. Offshoot Aims to Erase People’s Debts". http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/occupy-offshoot-aims-to-erase-peoples-debts. OWS is by and large a group of spoiled simple minded morons, imo. I cannot find fault in this though. pure act of charity and i admire people who are willing to give some of their own money to help others. I dont think it will take off unless there is some way to show the debtor is deserving of relief, though. i hope they find some experienced business people to help them purchase the debt. once sellers get wind of buyers they will make it tough for the un experienced."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #2 November 14, 2012 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/occupy-offshoot-aims-to-erase-peoples-debts.html "I said, look, we’re revolutionaries, you might not like what we’re trying to do." FIFY... "I said, look, we’re Useful Idiots..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #3 November 14, 2012 QuoteOWS is by and large a group of spoiled simple minded morons, imo. Attaboy for dispelling the notion that American politics is bitterly polarized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #4 November 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteOWS is by and large a group of spoiled simple minded morons, imo. Attaboy for dispelling the notion that American politics is bitterly polarized. cmon. it does not make me a partisan to call that group a bunch of dolts. it makes me a realist. they are far left of useful. i'm speaking from first hand esperience of walking by the filthy park and listening to the morons speak. im very moderate, fyi. ive only joined one party ever and it was the Democratic party. my wife is very active with the party and ive attended many fund raisers in my lifetime all for the same party. they are not taken serious by any reasonable person."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #5 November 14, 2012 Good for them! That's the kind of action that actually does make a difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 November 14, 2012 Ah. An OWS offshoot. OWS would not tolerate something like this because it meant actually doing something themselves with their own money to make a difference rather than complaining that others aren't doing it. People doing something. I applaud these folks. Dreamdancer may have a conniption, however... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 November 14, 2012 QuoteQuoteOWS is by and large a group of spoiled simple minded morons, imo. Attaboy for dispelling the notion that American politics is bitterly polarized. Most of us in San Francisco think they're morons too. This viewpoint is hardly restricted to Republicans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #8 November 16, 2012 QuoteNYT article, "Occupy Wall St. Offshoot Aims to Erase People’s Debts". http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/occupy-offshoot-aims-to-erase-peoples-debts. OWS is by and large a group of spoiled simple minded morons, imo. I cannot find fault in this though. pure act of charity and i admire people who are willing to give some of their own money to help others. I dont think it will take off unless there is some way to show the debtor is deserving of relief, though. i hope they find some experienced business people to help them purchase the debt. once sellers get wind of buyers they will make it tough for the un experienced. So now we are saying that it is a good thing to not make people responsible for the debt they incur? Whatever happened to personal responsibility?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #9 November 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteNYT article, "Occupy Wall St. Offshoot Aims to Erase People’s Debts". http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/nyregion/occupy-offshoot-aims-to-erase-peoples-debts. OWS is by and large a group of spoiled simple minded morons, imo. I cannot find fault in this though. pure act of charity and i admire people who are willing to give some of their own money to help others. I dont think it will take off unless there is some way to show the debtor is deserving of relief, though. i hope they find some experienced business people to help them purchase the debt. once sellers get wind of buyers they will make it tough for the un experienced. So now we are saying that it is a good thing to not make people responsible for the debt they incur? Whatever happened to personal responsibility? I do not see in this case that anyone is saying that. i would be the first to flame if they were calling on the owed party, the banks mostly, to relieve the debt. they are not. this is an act of charity. IMO, true charitable acts come without conditions or judgement. they are acts of kindness solely to aid a person in need. if someone is in debt and you are willing to use your personal monies to aid them, i respect your kidness."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #10 November 16, 2012 Quote So now we are saying that it is a good thing to not make people responsible for the debt they incur? Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Debtors' prison was abolished a very long time ago. Bankruptcy allows people and corporations legally to renege on their debts.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #11 November 16, 2012 >So now we are saying that it is a good thing to not make people responsible for the >debt they incur? In some cases, yes. Often we call that act "charity." And I am all for people, ESPECIALLY privately funded voluntary groups of people, doing what they can to help other people. >Whatever happened to personal responsibility? It's still there. The best among us feel responsible not just for ourselves, but for others who are down and out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #12 November 16, 2012 QuoteQuote So now we are saying that it is a good thing to not make people responsible for the debt they incur? Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Debtors' prison was abolished a very long time ago. Bankruptcy allows people and corporations legally to renege on their debts. In name only.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #13 November 16, 2012 QuoteQuote So now we are saying that it is a good thing to not make people responsible for the debt they incur? Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Debtors' prison was abolished a very long time ago. Bankruptcy allows people and corporations legally to renege on their debts. Not anymore. Now you have to submit to a 'Means Test'. Can't just walk away like you used to.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #14 November 17, 2012 QuoteDebtors' prison was abolished a very long time ago. Bankruptcy allows people and corporations legally to renege on their debts. Not anymore. Now you have to submit to a 'Means Test'. Can't just walk away like you used to. ...and never mind going to jail for getting behind on divorce decree payments....or taxes...or...well hell, on and on. Kallend will not call these scenarios as debtor's prison.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
