brenthutch 444 #76 November 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou appear to be equating rights to fear...not good. The whole 2nd Amendment is based on fear. When it refers to "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State..." that's a fear that without guns the security of the nation will be in jeopardy. So it's been about fear from the get-go of the founding of this nation. We're beyond that now, and should get over it. You are conflating "the security of a free state" with "the security of the nation" two very different things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #77 November 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou appear to be equating rights to fear...not good. The whole 2nd Amendment is based on fear. When it refers to "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State..." that's a fear that without guns the security of the nation will be in jeopardy. So it's been about fear from the get-go of the founding of this nation. We're beyond that now, and should get over it. You are conflating "the security of a free state" with "the security of the nation" two very different things. State refers to a political entity, usually with boundaries, such as the USA or Canada. Nation refers to a group of people who share a collective identity, such as Americans.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #78 November 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou appear to be equating rights to fear...not good. The whole 2nd Amendment is based on fear. When it refers to "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State..." that's a fear that without guns the security of the nation will be in jeopardy. So it's been about fear from the get-go of the founding of this nation. We're beyond that now, and should get over it. You are conflating "the security of a free state" with "the security of the nation" two very different things. State refers to a political entity, usually with boundaries, such as the USA or Canada. Nation refers to a group of people who share a collective identity, such as Americans. Such as, African Americans? South Americans? Central Americans? Asian Americans? Anglo Americans, Native Americans? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #79 November 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou appear to be equating rights to fear...not good. The whole 2nd Amendment is based on fear. When it refers to "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State..." that's a fear that without guns the security of the nation will be in jeopardy. So it's been about fear from the get-go of the founding of this nation. We're beyond that now, and should get over it. You are conflating "the security of a free state" with "the security of the nation" two very different things. State refers to a political entity, usually with boundaries, such as the USA or Canada. Nation refers to a group of people who share a collective identity, such as Americans. Such as, African Americans? South Americans? Central Americans? Asian Americans? Anglo Americans, Native Americans? No, no, no, no, no, yes.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #80 November 18, 2012 Your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #81 November 18, 2012 QuoteYour point? That you appear to not understand what is meant by the term state.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #82 November 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteYour point? That you appear to not understand what is meant by the term state. No, it would appear that you do not understand what is meant by the tearm "free" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #83 November 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteYour point? That you appear to not understand what is meant by the term state. No, it would appear that you do not understand what is meant by the tearm "free" Oh goody, you're presenting yet another baseless assertion!Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #84 November 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteYour point? That you appear to not understand what is meant by the term state. you do understand that some words have different meanings right? I like the "condition of being" definition of "state" for this discussion. as in a "free state" would imply a "state of being free". Perhaps you hadn't considered alternate meanings of the word. You're a generally intelligent poster, so I'll assume you'd kept the proverbial blinders on to let the forum drama fly.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #85 November 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteYour point? That you appear to not understand what is meant by the term state. you do understand that some words have different meanings right? I like the "condition of being" definition of "state" for this discussion. as in a "free state" would imply a "state of being free". Perhaps you hadn't considered alternate meanings of the word. You're a generally intelligent poster, so I'll assume you'd kept the proverbial blinders on to let the forum drama fly. No blinders, I just used context.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #86 December 30, 2012 Quote>gun-o-phobes are those who have an irrational fear of guns. And the people who cling to their guns, and are afraid Obama will grab them, have an irrational fear of government. Both statements are about as accurate. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274881-obama-hopes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
