Gun sales soar after Obama's re-election

[Channman 2]

Are we no longer talking about Zombies?... just when the topic was going somewhere...damn

[CarpeDiem3 0]

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Isn't fear what makes gun-nuts buy guns? Fear of the government? Fear of criminals? Fear of zombies? Fear of suicide deer bombers?

I have never bought a firearm out of fear. It's a fun hobby just like you enjoy skydiving and some folks enjoy fishing or motorcycles or whatever. They are just cool little mechanical gadgets that bring joy to the user. You don't fuss about people practicing archery, but a firearms enthusiast is somehow different?

Fear? I don't by guns because I fear the government- I buy guns because the government should fear its people. It fears me, but I have a feeling it likes kids like you who willingly drop their pants every time Uncle Sam wants some lovin'. Yes, I said kids- you gonna let somebody tell you what to do and how to think, just like mommy did? Grow the fuck up and be a man.

A self-defense concealed carry gun is purchased due to the motive of fear of criminal attack. That's done not as a hobby, not for appreciation of mechanical gizmos, not to make the government fear you. It's because you fear being attacked by a criminal.

You really should cease the insults. If this is representative of how gun owners view others, then you're not presenting a very nice picture.

You don't have to carry a gun to be a man.

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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You don't have to carry a gun to be a man.

No, although it does reduce your risks of injury by a criminal. This may be especially attractive to little old ladies that are unlikely to have more weight and fitness than their attackers.

It's like having a fire extinguisher. I'm not scared of fire although it doesn't cost much to have a fire extinguisher and it may make a big difference in my life.

[texascrw 1]

Amazing, even after you warned us, they're still feeding the little troll. Oh well, it will give him and his little friends something to giggle about on the playground tomorrow.

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All these right wing gun nuts might be planning some kind of government overthrow...

yes the US military must be quaking in its boots at the though of having to defeat such a well equipped, trained and determined foe.

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"you have a gas chamber mentality."

Owch!

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[jgoose71 0]

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Are we no longer talking about Zombies?... just when the topic was going somewhere...damn

Do you think they would let you take a gun to this event?
http://www.runforyourlives.com/

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Are we no longer talking about Zombies?... just when the topic was going somewhere...damn

Do you think they would let you take a gun to this event?
http://www.runforyourlives.com/

unfortunately, they won't even allow fake weapons on the course...messes with good costume ideas.

pretty well run event though. Not a the place for a good PR though - my 55 minutes put me in the top 20% for the heat. Think of it more as 15 all out 50-150 yard sprints, with panting breaks and occasional mud in between.

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Are we no longer talking about Zombies?... just when the topic was going somewhere...damn

Do you think they would let you take a gun to this event?
http://www.runforyourlives.com/

unfortunately, they won't even allow fake weapons on the course...messes with good costume ideas.

pretty well run event though. Not a the place for a good PR though - my 55 minutes put me in the top 20% for the heat. Think of it more as 15 all out 50-150 yard sprints, with panting breaks and occasional mud in between.

I haven't had a chance to run one yet. I didn't think it would be like a typical 5k with times between 20-25 min.

Hopefully I will get a chance to participate if one ever comes close enough to me.

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I own both a Bushmaster ACR and a SCAR-H. Trust me getting hit by a .308 will put anything down, including zombies.

Optics must be considered as well...those things can be expensive. Need something for low light, what are those things with a Red Dot, that might be a good add on for the AR.

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Isn't fear what makes gun-nuts buy guns? Fear of the government? Fear of criminals? Fear of zombies? Fear of suicide deer bombers?

I have never bought a firearm out of fear. It's a fun hobby just like you enjoy skydiving and some folks enjoy fishing or motorcycles or whatever. They are just cool little mechanical gadgets that bring joy to the user. You don't fuss about people practicing archery, but a firearms enthusiast is somehow different?

Fear? I don't by guns because I fear the government- I buy guns because the government should fear its people. It fears me, but I have a feeling it likes kids like you who willingly drop their pants every time Uncle Sam wants some lovin'. Yes, I said kids- you gonna let somebody tell you what to do and how to think, just like mommy did? Grow the fuck up and be a man.

A self-defense concealed carry gun is purchased due to the motive of fear of criminal attack. That's done not as a hobby, not for appreciation of mechanical gizmos, not to make the government fear you. It's because you fear being attacked by a criminal.

You really should cease the insults. If this is representative of how gun owners view others, then you're not presenting a very nice picture.

You don't have to carry a gun to be a man.

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Well thank you nostrodamus. Now we can cancel the superbowl because fuckface already knows whos gonna win. Oh and by the way carpe diem can also read minds, talk to dead people, and he has nancy pelosi living in the region that USED TO BE his manhood.

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Isn't fear what makes gun-nuts buy guns? Fear of the government? Fear of criminals? Fear of zombies? Fear of suicide deer bombers?

Nope.

Heard theone about:
"You have so many guns! What are you afraid of?"
Nuthin'.

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There's enough guns in America for every man, woman and child to have one. How many more do you need?

Oh, I dunno...at least one of each?

gun-o-phobes are those who have an irrational fear of guns. They are the ones trying to bastardize the 2nd amendment

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>gun-o-phobes are those who have an irrational fear of guns.

And the people who cling to their guns, and are afraid Obama will grab them, have an irrational fear of government.

Both statements are about as accurate.

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gun-o-phobes are those who have an irrational fear of guns.

lol, funny to read in a thread about fear motivated increases in gun purchases.

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>gun-o-phobes are those who have an irrational fear of guns.

And the people who cling to their guns, and are afraid Obama will grab them, have an irrational fear of government.

Both statements are about as accurate.

I'm not entirely sure about that.

Obama's voting history, both as an Illinois state senator and as the US Senator from Illinois was 100% anti-gun.
He stated during the debates that he'd like to see the AWB reinstated.

While I don't see any real chance of the government coming and taking away anyones guns, I do see the potential for certain types or classes of guns falling under a "new manufacture" ban.

Which would freeze availability at whatever number is out there now (which is pretty high), and drive prices up (again).

I don't really see this happening, because even though Obama doesn't have to worry about re-election, the senators and congress-critters that would have to pass a new law would.
And most of them remember very well the elections in '96.

Personally, I'm going to stock up on primers and powder. Not because I fear the government making it unavailable, but because I remember '08 when everyone panicked and bought up everything on the shelves. Primer cost went through the roof, and that was when you could find them.
Besides, I'm getting low and I usually buy a couple sleeves at a time to get a bulk discount.

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Obama... stated during the debates that he'd like to see the AWB reinstated.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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>gun-o-phobes are those who have an irrational fear of guns.

And the people who cling to their guns, and are afraid Obama will grab them, have an irrational fear of government.

Both statements are about as accurate.

umm, no.

gun-o-phobe (or the latinized version) literally translates to someone with a phobia (irrational fear) of guns. If someone said that all favoring gun control were gun o phobes, that would be an opinion statement not well founded by fact. But this statement is 100% true - it's a tautology.

But those who cling to their guns, or are afraid of initiatives from the White House - have a variety of reasons, rational and not, for them. You only need to revisit the Clinton Administration in 2000 re: S&W to show the falseness of the 'irrational fear of government' angle as 100% truth.

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gun-o-phobes are those who have an irrational fear of guns.

lol, funny to read in a thread about fear motivated increases in gun purchases.

There are many rational reasons for the increase in purchases, starting with a belief that said guns may become more expensive or scarce later. I bought the majority of mine when CA was on the legislative warpath. At one point in time half of them were no longer available for purchase. And while many of them are available again, it's at a considerably higher cost (40%).

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There are many rational reasons for the increase in purchases, starting with a belief that said guns may become more expensive or scarce later.

Who said all fear is irrational?

A belief of future scarcity can be restated as a fear of not being able to find/purchase/get in the future.

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There are many rational reasons for the increase in purchases, starting with a belief that said guns may become more expensive or scarce later.

Who said all fear is irrational?

A belief of future scarcity can be restated as a fear of not being able to find/purchase/get in the future.

or simply as "good planning."

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Obama... stated during the debates that he'd like to see the AWB reinstated.

http://tekstovi-pesama.com/g_img2/0/a/13202/average%2520white%2520band-2.jpg

Wasn't that allowed to sunset because it had no effect on crime and only served in infringe on the rights of law abiding citizens?

On the day it expired (my birthday), I had two previously prohibited AR-15s on my livingroom floor for assembly. They had flash suppressors and bayonet lugs. Those were the two things that made them illegal the day before. Yup. Need to bring that law back. These drive-by bayonetings are getting out of control.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

You can restate belief of future scarcity as good planning?

Maybe what you do with that belief can be seen as good planning? But that would depend on rationality of the belief. You seem to be mixing a couple of different concepts just so you can only say good things about guns.

I have noticed this before in proponents of guns. They will twist and turn in incredible ways to avoid saying anything that could remotely be seen as negative or maybe even neutral.

The last four years have provided no indication that Obama is going to take your guns, or restrict guns. Hard to believe that the fear of him doing that in the next 4 years is 100% rational.

One would think there are much more important things to resolve in your country over the next 4 years than guns.

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You can restate belief of future scarcity as good planning?

It makes more sense to buy water, batteries, and gasoline before a hurricane is on the horizon. Or to buy durable or non perishable goods when they're on sale. If you expect items to cost more or be harder to get, buying now is good planning, provided the opportunity cost doesn't exceed the anticipated savings.

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I have noticed this before in proponents of guns. They will twist and turn in incredible ways to avoid saying anything that could remotely be seen as negative or maybe even neutral.

better look in that mirror, bubba. You're the one calling this fear driven. And Quade is completely incapable of yielding a single iota towards an notion that gun owners might be right, even when it involves cop committing acts that would be felonies for you or I.

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The last four years have provided no indication that Obama is going to take your guns, or restrict guns. Hard to believe that the fear of him doing that in the next 4 years is 100% rational.

Oh, I tend to agree that Obama fears have been oversold. But the issues around scarcity have still been present for that very reason (ammo in particular).

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better look in that mirror, bubba. You're the one calling this fear driven.

Right and you are calling it buying now because it may not be available in the future, while refusing to admit it basically means the same thing.

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It makes more sense to buy water, batteries, and gasoline before a hurricane is on the horizon.

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Oh, I tend to agree that Obama fears have been oversold.

funny.

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better look in that mirror, bubba. You're the one calling this fear driven.

Right and you are calling it buying now because it may not be available in the future, while refusing to admit it basically means the same thing.

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fear doesn't mean what you suggest. You're making it the cause of any action anyone would ever take, when it is in fact: a painful emotion or passion excited by the expectation of evil, or the apprehension of impending danger; apprehension; anxiety; solicitude; alarm; dread.

But you know actually know this, which is why you're trying to label these people as fearful, since in your mind there is never a rational reason to buy a gun in the first place.