Bill Kristol on taxes

[kallend 2,182]

Weekly Standard editor and conservative commentator Bill Kristol said Sunday it “won’t kill the country” to raise taxes on millionaires.

www.theblaze.com/stories/bill-kristol-it-wont-kill-the-country-if-we-raise-taxes-on-millionaires/

A conservative shows some common sense.

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[airdvr 210]

True. Just need to follow that up with 'It won't kill anyone to cut spending'.

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[quade 4]

Spending is being cut. No question. The question is whether Republicans can unshackled themselves from Grover.

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Spending is being cut. No question. The question is whether Republicans can unshackled themselves from Grover.

I support across the board tax increases as long as there are dramatic spending cuts. There is very little that should be spared. I hope this will cause a change in our tax code also. I want to see a major shift in how we are taxed and how taxes are collected. There are way too many loopholes and too many don't pay their fair share. I also want to see taxes used less to affect social engineering.

The status quo has not worked out. It's time for a major overhaul of our tax system.

[billvon 3,132]

>I support across the board tax increases as long as there are dramatic spending
>cuts. There is very little that should be spared. I hope this will cause a change in our
>tax code also.

Agreed and agreed.

>too many don't pay their fair share. I also want to see taxes used less to affect social
>engineering.

It's a bit hard to both force people to pay "their fair share" (as you define it) and claim you don't want to do social engineering.

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It's a bit hard to both force people to pay "their fair share" (as you define it) and claim you don't want to do social engineering.

a flat tax doesn't play favorites
deleting deductions, exemptions, subsidies, etc from everyone doesn't play favorites


to 'minimize' social engineering, you have to have one set of rules, not one for the poor, one for the rich, and 27 for the middle class

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Spending is being cut. No question. The question is whether Republicans can unshackled themselves from Grover.

no question? I haven't seen cuts yet...I've seen reductions in growth...ie, a derivative of an actual cut. The problem with these is that Congress still has a habit of restoring cuts on a year by year basis, like reductions in Medicare reimbursements.

The Speaker has already made comments that suggest Grover's pledge may be tossed. But of course action is different than talk. It's much easier to agree to an enact tax cuts (or even hikes) then it is to agree to and enforce spending cuts.

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Spending is being cut. No question.

Hmmm. The 2013 federal budget request from the President is for $3.803 trillion in spending.

The 2012 federal budget had $3.729 trillion (requested)
and $3.796 trillion (enacted).

How is an increase in spending a cut in spending? I'm interested to hear your response.

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[lawrocket 3]

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I support across the board tax increases as long as there are dramatic spending cuts.

I don’t.

Government cuts coupled with tax increases is the worst of both worlds. When the government makes cuts, it means that goods and services that the government provides are not as available. This means that private industry must step up to provide those goods and services. To do that private industry needs money.

If taxes are increased during this period then private industry is unable to meet that demand. This causes more problems.

Cutting spending while maintaining the same tax burden is helpful. Cutting spending while cutting taxes is the best method because it frees up private industry.

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Spending is being cut. No question. The question is whether Republicans can unshackled themselves from Grover.

I support across the board tax increases as long as there are dramatic spending cuts. There is very little that should be spared. I hope this will cause a change in our tax code also. I want to see a major shift in how we are taxed and how taxes are collected. There are way too many loopholes and too many don't pay their fair share. I also want to see taxes used less to affect social engineering.

The status quo has not worked out. It's time for a major overhaul of our tax system.

Well, this is a start.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/22/chambliss-fires-off-on-norquists-anti-tax-pledge/?hpt=hp_t1

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a flat tax doesn't play favorites

Of course it does. This has been argued to death. The richer you are, the easier it is - i.e., the less practical life-burden it is - to pay a flat tax. As I said in the other thread, the fairness comes not from equality of rate, as would result from a flat tax; it comes from equivalence of burden, as results from a graduated tax.

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Bravo to Chambliss for willing to put his country ahead of his party (and ahead of Grover Norquist.)

[kallend 2,182]

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Bravo to Chambliss for willing to put his country ahead of his party (and ahead of Grover Norquist.)

Let's hope Mitch McConnell can do the same.

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Bravo to Chambliss for willing to put his country ahead of his party (and ahead of Grover Norquist.)

Let's hope Mitch McConnell can do the same.

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