billvon 3,132 #1 November 9, 2012 Interesting to see the right wing's reaction to the skewing of polls (and setting of expectations) by the right wing media complex. While they may have been willing participants in some of the media's deceptive practices (like skewing poll numbers to try to suppress democratic voter turnout) apparently many of them were caught by surprise, including some people who contributed a lot of money to the right wing based on those practices. David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter, said as much in an interview yesterday: "The real locus of the problem is the Republican activist base and the Republican donor base. They went apocalyptic over the past four years, and that was exploited by a lot of people in the conservative world. I won’t soon forget the lupine smile that played over the head of one major conservative institution when he told me that our donors think the apocalypse has arrived, that Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." And Republican leaders are paying the price for that deception: ================== Republican anger over Rove 'waste of money' November 9, 2012 Julie Bykowicz WASHINGTON: Karl Rove and his investors were the biggest losers on election day. The Republican strategist created the model for outside-money groups that raised and spent more than $1 billion on the November 6 elections - many of which saw almost no return for their money. . . . The results have angered some Republicans, who blame Mr Rove for ''sidelining conservatives''. ''Right now there is stunned disbelief that Republicans fared so poorly after all the money they invested,'' said Brent Bozell, president of ForAmerica, non-profit group that advocates for Christian values in politics. ''If I had 1/100th of Karl Rove's money, I would have been more productive than he was.'' Donald Trump posted a message on Twitter saying: ''Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money.'' ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #2 November 9, 2012 Now that the media have been exposed as skewing their polls to the right, I wonder how much more whining from the right about "liberal media" we will have to endure.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #3 November 9, 2012 Yep. What we see when subjective desire and objective reality meet.... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #4 November 9, 2012 No right wing media personality has ever gone broke underestimating the attention span of the average listener. The only way to ensure higher ratings is just come up with more outlandish conspiracies as to why Obama is out to destroy the country. Nothing could have been worse for the right wing media than an Obama loss. It's a win-win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #5 November 9, 2012 Quote Now that the media have been exposed as skewing their polls to the right, I wonder how much more whining from the right about "liberal media" we will have to endure. Endless. The conservatives must have a scapegoat. They're just like Hitler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 November 9, 2012 Quote underestimating the attention span of the average listener. The only way to ensure ...,,,, I'm sorry, what was that? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #7 November 10, 2012 QuoteNo right wing media personality has ever gone broke underestimating the attention span of the average listener. The only way to ensure higher ratings is just come up with more outlandish conspiracies as to why Obama is out to destroy the country. Nothing could have been worse for the right wing media than an Obama loss. It's a win-win. As far as Obama destroying our country goes, the principle applies whereby one should not attribute to conspiracy that which is easily explained by incompetence. WE, as a people, have authored our own demise. Obama is clueless, rather than nefarious. His understanding of systemic problems is nonexistent, and his "solutions" are anything but (tasking an Attorney correct the failings of the Medical system? Why am I the only one who sees a fundamental flaw in that scenario?). Does this mean I support whatever the hell the "right" is peddling? Not hardly. The only thing that got my attention in the last election cycle is that one candidate had precisely zero experience cycle, and that other could not help himself but to balance any budget he came near. Charming though the incumbent may be, saying that he spends money like a drunken sailor is an insult to drunken sailors everywhere. Drunken sailors, when they run out of money, stop spending. Whatever the faults of the opponent (his faith is a definitive scam, on a par with Scientology or Islam, just for starts) he has a long standing track record of turning around losers and turning a profit in general. If this nation was to survive, it would have been necessary to staunch the bleeding, but the electorate was emphatic in that other things were more important. Very well. All this snarky nonsense about secondary and tertiary issues serves only to obfuscate the fundamentals, whereby WE are responsible for our collective fate. Anyone who can not figure out what is that ultimate fate should have paid more attention in Arithmetic class. A people get the Government they deserve. I guess that makes us World Class Losers. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites