Sore losers

[masterblaster72 0]

Sore losers include the loser himself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20344750

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Sore losers include the loser himself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20344750

I think anyone in his situation (loser, having been trying for a really long time) would have a very difficult time looking at it objectively. You need a pretty strong ego just to try to run.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

To me it shows how pervasive that line of thinking is in the Republican Party. It is good to see that some of the "younger" crowd has spoken up and denounced those statements.

[Channman 2]

When Democrats lose elections, do they ever discuss the possibility they may have to become pro-life? Do they ever say, "You know what?, we may have to give up this gay marriage position of ours and abandon that. We need to stand up for traditional marriage."

Hell no they never discuss those things. Dems get all weak in the knees, "we need to advocate for the Second Amendment, we don't want to alienate our voters who love guns." When they loss elections do they tell themselves to tone down the rhetoric."

They don't abandon their principles, nor should the Republican party abandon the principles of conservatisiam. Conservatisiam works everytime its tried, not that it was tried in the last two presidental elections. Republicans didn't pick up 65 house sets in 2010 by abandoning their principles...The Dems when they have a member in trouble they circle the wagons, Republican circle the firing squad.

Election come and go, this last one was a down right bummer for me, but Kallend mentioned the Sun would rise and set, and our lives would go on.

There is always tomorrow, and with it there is hope for a better future...well it might take another 4 years to begin seeing a better future...I'm just taking out loud.

[billvon 3,095]

>When Democrats lose elections, do they ever discuss the possibility they may have
>to become pro-life?

Yes. Democrats got trounced in the 2002 elections. They then discussed easing their opposition to abortion. Indeed, when the 2003 law banning partial birth abortion was passed, 63 democrats voted for it.

>They don't abandon their principles, nor should the Republican party abandon
>the principles of conservatisiam.

Personally I agree. However, they should abandon their anti-woman and anti-gay planks, and use more math and less wishful thinking. The more rational republicans seem to agree.

>The Dems when they have a member in trouble they circle the wagons, Republican
>circle the firing squad.

And then, apparently, they secede.

[jakee 1,583]

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Do they ever say, "You know what?, we may have to give up this gay marriage position of ours and abandon that. We need to stand up for traditional marriage."

Right, because the answer to losing ground in the polls is to start swimming against the tide. There's a winning solution

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[RonD1120 62]

Do you think the country is polarized?

http://news.yahoo.com/key-west-fla-man-cites-obama-suicide-note-182700284.html

A Key West, Fla., man was found dead Nov. 8 of an apparent suicide. A note found close to his body purportedly said, "Do not revive! (Expletive deleted) Obama!" The Associated Press reports police claim Henry Hamilton was distraught over President Barack Obama's re-election and followed through on his threat to kill himself should the president win the Nov. 6 contest.

Same guy different headline

http://www.examiner.com/article/gay-republican-commits-suicide-because-of-obama-victory

Gay Republican commits suicide because of Obama victory


On a PGR mission today there were no voices of reconciliation concerning the election. One member stated that he and his wife were breaking association with former friends that voted for Obama.

Several states have submitted petitions for secession.

If part of BHO's plan was to divide the country, it's working.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[popsjumper 2]

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>When Democrats lose elections, do they ever discuss the possibility they may have
>to become pro-life?

Yes. Democrats got trounced in the 2002 elections. They then discussed easing their opposition to abortion. Indeed, when the 2003 law banning partial birth abortion was passed, 63 democrats voted for it.

If that's true, the democratic party has taken a major left turn since 2003...

From the 2012Democratic Party Platform:

"Protecting A Woman's Right to Choose.
The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, ..."

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[billvon 3,095]

>If that's true, the democratic party has taken a major left turn since 2003...

Yes; their large popular support means they don't have to be as centrist.

[jakee 1,583]

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If part of BHO's plan was to divide the country, it's working.

So... Republicans try to secede, it's Obama's fault. Republicans stop talking to their neighbours, it's Obama's fault. You label all your political opponents as immature radical communists, it's Obama's fault.

Take a look in the bloody mirror

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[kelpdiver 2]

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To me it shows how pervasive that line of thinking is in the Republican Party. It is good to see that some of the "younger" crowd has spoken up and denounced those statements.

I think Al Gore was no different in 2000. He expected to win and couldn't figure out why he didn't.

But the Party did realize that gun control was a losing proposition and have made no efforts to replace the silly assault weapons ban since then.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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When Democrats lose elections, do they ever discuss the possibility they may have to become pro-life? Do they ever say, "You know what?, we may have to give up this gay marriage position of ours and abandon that. We need to stand up for traditional marriage."

Hell no they never discuss those things. Dems get all weak in the knees, "we need to advocate for the Second Amendment, we don't want to alienate our voters who love guns." When they loss elections do they tell themselves to tone down the rhetoric."

They don't abandon their principles, nor should the Republican party abandon the principles of conservatisiam. Conservatisiam works everytime its tried, not that it was tried in the last two presidental elections. Republicans didn't pick up 65 house sets in 2010 by abandoning their principles...The Dems when they have a member in trouble they circle the wagons, Republican circle the firing squad.

Well, I guess I look at this differently. If a party wants to survive it is going to have to adapt over the years so they can represent a majority of the voting population.

If they just staunchly want to hang on to principles, they may find their support dwindling and becoming irrelevant.

Concept goes for both parties (or all parties really). So yes, I would hope that when the Democrats lse an election they look at their positions and see if those need to be refined based on the will of the population.

[popsjumper 2]

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Concept goes for both parties (or all parties really). So yes, I would hope that when the Democrats lse an election they look at their positions and see if those need to be refined based on the will of the population.

Applicable to every political party, I would hope that they would have done that before the election. Indeed even as an on-going process.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[billvon 3,095]

>I would hope that they would have done that before the election. Indeed even as an on-going process.

Agreed, and that's why telling yourself what you want to hear (or only listening to news that fits your prejudices) is so dangerous. You won't re-examine your positions if you have told yourself that you are already popular and well supported.

In this case we had FOX News and sites like "deskew.com" actually changing data to make republicans think they were winning. Right here on DZ.com we had people who were positive Romney would win by a large margin. It wasn't that the data wasn't there, it's that they preferred a different version of the data, and thus they were blindsided when they lost badly. They didn't have a chance to re-examine their more unpopular positions before that happened.

That's a good lesson going forward. All political parties spin the story to make themselves sound better. But when those parties start believing their own spin, you can have some very unexpected outcomes.

[kallend 2,131]

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>I would hope that they would have done that before the election. Indeed even as an on-going process.

Agreed, and that's why telling yourself what you want to hear (or only listening to news that fits your prejudices) is so dangerous. You won't re-examine your positions if you have told yourself that you are already popular and well supported.

In this case we had FOX News and sites like "deskew.com" actually changing data to make republicans think they were winning. Right here on DZ.com we had people who were positive Romney would win by a large margin. It wasn't that the data wasn't there, it's that they preferred a different version of the data, and thus they were blindsided when they lost badly. They didn't have a chance to re-examine their more unpopular positions before that happened.

That's a good lesson going forward. All political parties spin the story to make themselves sound better. But when those parties start believing their own spin, you can have some very unexpected outcomes.

Looks like Republican governors are distancing themselves from Romney now:

www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83970.html

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,095]

Looks like Romney gets the last gaffe in this election . . .

[popsjumper 2]

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... that's why telling yourself what you want to hear (or only listening to news that fits your prejudices) is so dangerous.

Yep...and that's one major reason why we, as a population, get ourselves unto such outrageous situations, politically speaking.

On the one hand, it just may be that our representatives have all come to realize that the U.S. population has no earthly clue as to what is best for it so they don't bother to ask. Well, until they lose the election and then ask, "What went wrong?"

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You won't re-examine your positions if you have told yourself that you are already popular and well supported.

The old head-in-the-sand trick? Exactly. I like true Debate when you take the side opposing your stance. You might learn something about yourself and others and the topic under debate.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[RonD1120 62]

And another business speaks up.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[masterblaster72 0]

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And another business speaks up.

Sore losers -- big time.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[kallend 2,131]

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And another business speaks up.

Sore loser: QED.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[popsjumper 2]

Well now, there are sore losers and there are poor sports.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[billvon 3,095]

Revenge firings and now revenge bannings. Sore losers indeed.

[ianmdrennan 2]

Guess they don't believe in democracy as much as I believe in their right to run their business as they see fit.

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[Channman 2]

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Revenge firings and now revenge bannings. Sore losers indeed.

I'm so pissed, I'm banning myself out of revenge for being...well I'm just banning myself until Monday, maybe Tuesday, I think I'll be over it by then.

[Channman 2]

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And another business speaks up.

Sore losers -- big time.

Hey that sticker really made me mad, I'm going to the moderator and telling on you just as soon as I get done with my self imposed banning.

That sticker even mad Amazon mad