So what did we learn?

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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I also learned that if people actually voted for the candidate they agreed with most, the two people in a deadlock wouldn't have been Obama and Romney...

www.isidewith.com

I did the poll and the winner (for me) was ... drum roll ...

Gary Johnson at 88%
Mitt Romney at 85%
Virgil Goode at 83%
Barack Obama at 46%
American Voters at 51%

LOL ... looks like you better inform "The Department of Homeland Security" to have me permanently banned from entering in the US and polluting the minds of all your progressives.

Oh and I did say I believed in Evolution, I am Pro-Choice and I believe weed should be legalized. Funny none of those are hardcore right wing values and yet Romney finished a close 2nd. What did I learn with this poll? That I am not a progressive, but I didn't need this poll to know that. And maybe Romney is closer to a Libertarian which would explain why progressives and evangelicals hate him. At least Obama wasn't last on my list. Two other people finished below Barry.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[BikerBabe 0]

well, the real telling thing was if you clicked on each candidate at the bottom and it showed the map of the states where people agreed with them the most. johnson certainly had way more than romney, and almost as much as obama.

I blame the media.

Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

[champu 1]

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If you voted Yes on 30, you should vote Yes on 38 as well.

I voted Yes on 38 and no on 30, because after reading through them voting yes on both didn't make any sense. 38 wasn't even close though, it got shot down 72%/28%.

Also worth noting: the two bond sale/property tax increase measures for school infrastructure in my area both passed while the sales tax increase for roads and such looks like it will fail (it's close, and they're apparently still counting mail-ins.) This kind of thing shouldn't be unexpected though as in LA county it only takes a 55% vote to increase property taxes to fund a project whereas it takes a 2/3 vote to raise sales tax to fund a project.

[headoverheels 334]

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I also learned that if people actually voted for the candidate they agreed with most, the two people in a deadlock wouldn't have been Obama and Romney...

www.isidewith.com

Candidates you side with...

90% Barack Obama

78% Jill Stein, Green

64% Gary Johnson Libertarian

5% Mitt Romney Republican

61% California Voters

59% American Voters

[headoverheels 334]

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If you voted Yes on 30, you should vote Yes on 38 as well.

I voted Yes on 38 and no on 30, because after reading through them voting yes on both didn't make any sense. 38 wasn't even close though, it got shot down 72%/28%.

Also worth noting: the two bond sale/property tax increase measures for school infrastructure in my area both passed while the sales tax increase for roads and such looks like it will fail (it's close, and they're apparently still counting mail-ins.) This kind of thing shouldn't be unexpected though as in LA county it only takes a 55% vote to increase property taxes to fund a project whereas it takes a 2/3 vote to raise sales tax to fund a project.

To make my point short, the people of means in this country, who have benefited from the opportunities that America presents, know the game.

And if the proposition is put forward THEY WILL pay for the country's steak dinner.

BUT

Everyone else has to chip in for the tip.

I voted yes on 30, no on 38.

[popsjumper 2]

78% Gary Johnson Libertarian
on domestic policy, healthcare, economic, and social issues

76% Mitt Romney
on immigration, healthcare, and economic issues

62% Virgil Goode
on healthcare and economic issues

46% Barack Obama
on science and social issues

57% Florida Voters
on domestic policy, economic, foreign policy, environmental, social, and science issues.

56% American Voters
on domestic policy, foreign policy, economic, environmental, social, and science issues.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[davjohns 1]

I cannot say for certain that I have learned anything.

However, I am pushed closer to the conclusion that our level of polarization has increased to the point that we have lost sight of the value of diverse opinions...That we are no longer listening to those with different opinions or even talking, so much as shouting at one another...That this greatly increases the chances that the path we are on is highly unlikely to be one that will lead to a good place.

I no longer see any leader trying to 'reach across the aisle'. I see the aisle becoming a no man's land that none dare venture into.

I am concerned. I am not concerned about who is in office, but about the vitriol from both sides that poisons minds and draws lines of division.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[lawrocket 3]

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I voted yes on 30, no on 38.

I voted no on both. The reason I especially voted no on 30 was because the proposition was, fundamentally, a bailout of STRS. The money from Prop 30 doesn't have to go to schools and won't.

Furthermore, it was another example of, "It's not our problem. It's a problem for them." "Them" being the wealthy.

There is no "us" anymore. There's just "us and them." The passage of Prop 30 with the flaming defeat of Prop 38 solidifies it - nobody is okay with everybody sacrificing for the benefit of a few. There is a nobility class, and that is retired teachers, and they are priority number 1 in this state. Not important enough for everybody to bite the bullet - just a few that we think should pay for them.

My wife is hotter than your wife.