airdvr 210 #1176 September 17, 2014 billvon>But, back to the issue at hand. Four men died tragically in Benghazi. There is a >very good chance that they could have been rescued. We had a major leadership >failure. And in 2001, 3000 Americans died tragically in New York City. There is a very good chance they could have been saved. We had an even larger leadership failure. No one is perfect. But it's nuts to claim that 3000 dead after a clear warning was just a minor oversight, but 4 dead after a warning is a major leadership failure. I'm interested in what happened afterwards.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,112 #1177 September 17, 2014 >I'm interested in what happened afterwards. 6000 dead US soldiers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #1178 September 17, 2014 No that is not the reason. This is the situation. You want to argue the past compared to the present. I am not concerned with the past. The present has this game and I am rooting for my team to win. It is my version of present centered Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #1179 September 17, 2014 Here is something for you to keep in mind. When someone volunteers for military service they understand they may have to fight. They understand they do not get to pick the fight. They believe that if and when they fight their government will back them up. The WJC administration failed to provide backup in Somalia. That game is over and done. The BHO administration failed again in Benghazi. This game is stilled being played.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #1180 September 17, 2014 QuoteThe WJC administration failed to provide backup in Somalia. I thought you didn't want to talk about the past. Why not mention Reagan pulling out of Beirut? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #1181 September 17, 2014 I did not have an interest in Beirut. I had my own war going on at that time. What were you doing then?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #1182 September 17, 2014 billvon>I'm interested in what happened afterwards. 6000 dead US soldiers. Less than 2 months before a close election. I'm interested to know if we were lied to about the attack on 9/11/12. Did this administration deliberately mislead about the attack in an attempt to salvage the President's claims that we were winning the war on terror.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1183 September 17, 2014 RonD1120 I did not have an interest in Beirut. I had my own war going on at that time. What were you doing then? Exactly, you are only interested if dead Americans can win you political points on a website. Nice to know that dead country men mean so much to you. A true patriot you are! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #1184 September 17, 2014 How can I win political points? That makes no sense to me. Furthermore, why do you foreigners even care? I am rooting for my team to win in this game, which is in overtime and we have the ball.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1185 September 17, 2014 RonD1120How can I win political points? That makes no sense to me. Furthermore, why do you foreigners even care? I am rooting for my team to win in this game, which is in overtime and we have the ball. Exactly, you get all patriotic and cry over dead Americans when it suits your political team. You couldn't care less about thousands of dead Americans soldiers, because that suits your political team betetr. The important part is your political team...the dead soldiers are just pawns to be used for arguments. It is sickening. I guess the good thing is that we get decent insight into your character. I would hide in the mountains too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #1186 September 17, 2014 Tsk, tsk, such myopic shortsightedness. Better go get your wood in, that would be more important.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #1187 September 17, 2014 In 1983? Trying to survive middle school, so a war of my own as well. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1188 September 17, 2014 RonD1120Tsk, tsk, such myopic shortsightedness. Better go get your wood in, that would be more important. As far as why do foreigners care? Because you are posting it on a foreigner's forum, hosted in a foreign country. Anyways, back to using dead americans to make you feel better ron! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #1189 September 18, 2014 Now you are being silly.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1190 September 18, 2014 RonD1120Now you are being silly. I don't have much of a choice when having a "conversation" with a self-admitted troll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #1191 September 18, 2014 SkyDekker***Now you are being silly. I don't have much of a choice when having a "conversation" with a self-admitted troll. Quade had admitted to trolling, so have many others . . . yet you focus on Ron, why is that? Aren't liberals supposed to be mor equal minded and sharing, or are thy just that biased?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #1192 September 18, 2014 turtlespeed [ Aren't liberals supposed to be mor equal minded and sharing, or are thy just that biased? YOU OWE ME A KEYBOARD!!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1193 September 18, 2014 turtlespeed******Now you are being silly. I don't have much of a choice when having a "conversation" with a self-admitted troll. Quade had admitted to trolling, so have many others . . . yet you focus on Ron, why is that? Aren't liberals supposed to be mor equal minded and sharing, or are thy just that biased? Because Ron only cares about dead americans when it can help his political party. I guess you are the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #1194 September 18, 2014 Psst, I don't have a political party. I have a basic libertarian philosophy for government and a Christian faith.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1195 September 18, 2014 I'll rephrase: When it can help fuel his hatred for the Democratic party. Libertarians are just Conservatives who use that monicker to hide from the negative side of the Conservative Party. They tend to cheerlead close to everything the Conservative Party stands for, but when something negative is brought up they state: Oh, but I am really a libertarian. No different from: I have black friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #1196 September 18, 2014 SkyDekkerI'll rephrase: When it can help fuel his hatred for the Democratic party. Libertarians are just Conservatives who use that monicker to hide from the negative side of the Conservative Party. They tend to cheerlead close to everything the Conservative Party stands for, but when something negative is brought up they state: Oh, but I am really a libertarian. No different from: I have black friends. Wow - Do you actually believe what you write?! Libertarianism is fundamentally different from Conservatism. Republicans do not want progressive change. Libertarians want freedom. Big Difference. I haven't seen a libertarian speak out about legalizing marijuana, while combating that is a platform issue for republicans.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1197 September 18, 2014 turtlespeed ***I'll rephrase: When it can help fuel his hatred for the Democratic party. Libertarians are just Conservatives who use that monicker to hide from the negative side of the Conservative Party. They tend to cheerlead close to everything the Conservative Party stands for, but when something negative is brought up they state: Oh, but I am really a libertarian. No different from: I have black friends. Wow - Do you actually believe what you write?! Libertarianism is fundamentally different from Conservatism. Republicans do not want progressive change. Libertarians want freedom. Big Difference. I haven't seen a libertarian speak out about legalizing marijuana, while combating that is a platform issue for republicans. Lol, the libertarian party calls for appealing all laws that prohibit or control homosexuality. I am sure Ron is a huge supported of the Libertarian Party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #1198 September 18, 2014 SkyDekker ******I'll rephrase: When it can help fuel his hatred for the Democratic party. Libertarians are just Conservatives who use that monicker to hide from the negative side of the Conservative Party. They tend to cheerlead close to everything the Conservative Party stands for, but when something negative is brought up they state: Oh, but I am really a libertarian. No different from: I have black friends. Wow - Do you actually believe what you write?! Libertarianism is fundamentally different from Conservatism. Republicans do not want progressive change. Libertarians want freedom. Big Difference. I haven't seen a libertarian speak out about legalizing marijuana, while combating that is a platform issue for republicans. Lol, the libertarian party calls for appealing all laws that prohibit or control homosexuality. I am sure Ron is a huge supported of the Libertarian Party. I am sure there are variations on Democrat party line you disagree with, does that make you not a liberal?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #1199 September 18, 2014 Personally I think voting mostly conservative makes me not a liberal. The Conservative Party in the US is a bit of a joke though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #1200 September 18, 2014 SkyDekkerPersonally I think voting mostly conservative makes me not a liberal. The Conservative Party in the US is a bit of a joke though. There is no "conservative" party. I am a conservative, with social liberal tendancies. I but no party out there has my values as they are. The label isn't important to me. I vote for the lesser of two evils.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites