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For scientists to assist in disaster assistance. Must be able to predict natural disasters or face prison terms.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hgHYMt0RlaWTj9auQhUgx4ibC5wQ?docId=CNG.bffad396104a93be5f736ad6dfe206e9.5e1



Guaranteed to result in lots of false alarms in the future. Don't Acts of God require priests to predict them?
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For scientists to assist in disaster assistance. Must be able to predict natural disasters or face prison terms.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hgHYMt0RlaWTj9auQhUgx4ibC5wQ?docId=CNG.bffad396104a93be5f736ad6dfe206e9.5e1



Guaranteed to result in lots of false alarms in the future. Don't Acts of God require priests to predict them?



This coming from a guy who professes that we can predict which nutters will obtain a gun and go on a murder spree.

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For scientists to assist in disaster assistance. Must be able to predict natural disasters or face prison terms.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hgHYMt0RlaWTj9auQhUgx4ibC5wQ?docId=CNG.bffad396104a93be5f736ad6dfe206e9.5e1



Guaranteed to result in lots of false alarms in the future. Don't Acts of God require priests to predict them?



This coming from a guy who professes that we can predict which nutters will obtain a gun and go on a murder spree.



Since when did mass murders count as "Acts of God".
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For scientists to assist in disaster assistance. Must be able to predict natural disasters or face prison terms.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hgHYMt0RlaWTj9auQhUgx4ibC5wQ?docId=CNG.bffad396104a93be5f736ad6dfe206e9.5e1



Guaranteed to result in lots of false alarms in the future. Don't Acts of God require priests to predict them?



This coming from a guy who professes that we can predict which nutters will obtain a gun and go on a murder spree.



Since when did mass murders count as "Acts of God".



Now you are going to get all the atheists stirred up.

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Hi rocket,

I heard about this on the radio yesterday.

IMO this is simply NUTZ!!!

But we also sent some engineers to prison for their design when it was changed by others on-site; and which they did not know it had been changed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse

A sad day for all scientists.

JerryBaumchen

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But we also sent some engineers to prison for their design when it was changed by others on-site; and which they did not know it had been changed.



The engineers did know the plans had been changed. They had done the revised drawings without the calculations necessary for it. The Hyatt walkway was entirely human-related and another indicator of a daisy chain of acts and omissions that caused disaster.

But failing to predict an earthquake? Telling people that a strong earthquake is improbable and going to prison when the improbable happened? It's ridiculous!


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Hi rocket,

I heard about this on the radio yesterday.

IMO this is simply NUTZ!!!

But we also sent some engineers to prison for their design when it was changed by others on-site; and which they did not know it had been changed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse

A sad day for all scientists.

JerryBaumchen



Jerry, I don't think anyone went to prison over the Hyatt collapse. IIRC they just lost their professional licenses. Besides, the licensed structural engineering firm is supposed to provide complete oversight, which clearly they didn't do in that case. There's a comprehensive analysis of the Hyatt case in "To Engineer is Human" by Henry Petroski.
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Hi John,

I 'think' that they did go to prison. But I'm not betting my retirement on it.

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Besides, the licensed structural engineering firm is supposed to provide complete oversight, which clearly they didn't do in that case.



That all depends on how the contracts were structured. Sometimes a firm only does the design and that is all.

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The engineers did know the plans had been changed. They had done the revised drawings without the calculations necessary for it.



My understanding always has been that the field engineers knew and did their calculations; not the design firm engineers.

JerryBaumchen

PS) I have been wrong in the past & will be wrong in the future; maybe even now. :S

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Don't Acts of God require priests to predict them?



Naw. Computer models have predicted the next Great Flood.



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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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