jclalor 12 #1 October 23, 2012 Two weeks ago Romney says the President is wrong for setting an exit date for Afghanistan, tonight he says 2014 is when we should exit. Two months ago he claims that Russia is the greatest threat to the US, did he even mention Russia tonight? On the other hand, Romney did agree with most of Obama's foreign policy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #2 October 23, 2012 When is 2014 a date? 10/10/14 is a date. He didn't want to put a precise date and tip our hand to the enemy, who is in the mts, or out of country waiting on us Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #3 October 23, 2012 Romney said Russia is our geopolitical enemy not militarily. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #4 October 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhen is 2014 a date? 10/10/14 is a date. He didn't want to put a precise date and tip our hand to the enemy, who is in the mts, or out of country waiting on us Romney had previously said he would not give any date, He said he would leave it up to the military. Perhaps you mean he wouldn't provide a precise year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #5 October 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteRomney said Russia is our geopolitical enemy not militarily. And how many times did he mentioned his idea of America's #1 geopolitical enemy during tonight's debate on foreign policy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #6 October 23, 2012 http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/politics/fact-check/index.html Wrong Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #7 October 23, 2012 Quotehttp://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/politics/fact-check/index.html Wrong But Romney won the "pants on fire" lie contest. He told two whoppers, to Obama's zero (Politifact.com)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #8 October 23, 2012 Changing the subject when your liberal friends are wrong, I'm surprised you diddnt mention bush or Halliburton like democrat SOP dictates you act. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #9 October 23, 2012 QuoteQuotehttp://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/politics/fact-check/index.html Wrong QuoteBut during that same speech Romney added a caveat, saying he would talk to commanders on the ground to evaluate the conditions in Afghanistan before the withdrawal. http://www.cnn.com/...act-check/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 October 23, 2012 QuoteQuotehttp://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/politics/fact-check/index.html Wrong But Romney won the "pants on fire" lie contest. He told two whoppers, to Obama's zero (Politifact.com) Romneys also going to win the Presidential contest. You and the other radical socialists going to be difficult to live with for a few weeks after the election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #11 October 23, 2012 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/22/debate-fact-check_n_2003931.html Wrong. I don't have time to read it all and deal with a sick daughter, but I saw 3 lies from Obama right off Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #12 October 23, 2012 What's your point? You just helped my argument. He said 2014, wouldn't give a specific date, but would tailor that secret date with commanders on the ground to make the best move. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #13 October 23, 2012 Syria Is Iran's Route To The Sea" - Mitt Romney WTF? I guess he's never heard of the Arabian sea or that Iran does not share a border with Syria. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Joey- 0 #14 October 23, 2012 Quote Romney did agree with most of Obama's foreign policy. And here I was thinking in a democracy we should have a choice Skydiving is serious business Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #15 October 23, 2012 So, I read the Politifact page and I think this is a better evaluation of the statements made in the debate. It's worth noting, though, that the politifact pages aren't in response to tonight's debate, they just gathered up pages they had put together previously. QuoteROMNEY: "Mr. President, the reason I call it an apology tour is because you went to the Middle East and you flew to Egypt and to Saudi Arabia and to Turkey and Iraq. And by the way, you skipped Israel, our closest friend in the region, but you went to the other nations. And by the way, they noticed that you skipped Israel. And then in those nations, and on Arabic TV, you said that America had been dismissive and derisive. You said that on occasion America had dictated to other nations." OBAMA: "Nothing Gov. Romney just said is true, starting with this notion of me apologizing. This has been probably the biggest whopper that's been told during the course of this campaign. And every fact checker and every reporter who's looked at it, governor, has said this is not true." THE FACTS: Romney has indeed repeatedly and wrongly accused the president of traveling the world early in his presidency and apologizing for U.S. behavior. Obama didn't say "sorry" in those travels. But in this debate, Romney at last explained the context of his accusation: not that Obama apologized literally, but that he had been too deferential in his visits to Europe, Latin America and the Muslim world. Obama said while abroad that the U.S. acted "contrary to our traditions and ideals" in its treatment of terrorist suspects, that "America has too often been selective in its promotion of democracy," that the U.S. "certainly shares blame" for international economic turmoil and has sometimes "shown arrogance and been dismissive, even divisive" toward Europe. Yet he also praised America and its ideals. And in reading politifact's evaluation of the Navy and Air Force sizes, I guess I just can't agree with their rating system. Romney wasn't lying, he was just pointing out a trend that doesn't really mean anything. The president was right in rebutting with jokes that ship and aircraft counts aren't everything anymore, and he was also right in not saying Romney's statement was incorrect. Also when they do things like this it doesn't help their argument... QuoteWe looked up the original data, and the Heritage report does reflect the trend line correctly (though Romney said 1917 rather than 1916, something we won’t quibble with). In 1916, the U.S. Navy had 245 active ships, a number that eventually peaked during World War II, then fell, then peaked again more modestly during the Korean War, followed by a slow, consistent decline over the next five decades. In recent years, the number of active ships has fallen low enough to approach its 1916 level. In both 2009 (the most recent year of the Heritage report) and 2011, the number was 285. Why are they clearly stating that Romney said 1917 but then chewing him out for being wrong as though he had said 1916, and then saying they'll let it slide because he pegs out the lie meter anyway on account of it not being a good measure in the first place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #16 October 23, 2012 I did not like the debate and dozed off from 2210-2220. Romney appeared more presidential and diplomatic. Bottom line BHO is a socialist and Romney is a capitalist. That is the issue to ponder.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #17 October 23, 2012 Unicorns are horses with bayonets scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #18 October 23, 2012 Our military still uses bayonettes, and horses were used in Afganistan.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #19 October 23, 2012 QuoteOur military still uses bayonettes, and horses were used in Afganistan. But fewer than in 1916, FOR SHAME!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #20 October 23, 2012 Not true. Oddly enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #21 October 23, 2012 We probably have more bayonettes now, because we have more people. On the other hand, not everyone is issued a bayonette, so it's hard to say. I doubt we have more horses. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #22 October 23, 2012 Agreed. Romney said what he said and it was kind of dumb. I'm not defending it in any way. Obama said what he said, came across as a dick and may be factually wrong. IMO anyway. Just another inconsequential distraction over semantics. I didn't see any gain for either side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #23 October 23, 2012 QuoteI didn't see any gain for either side. I don't know about any net gain either, given that all but about 6% have already decided who the are going to support. What struck me was that once again the Romney that showed up was quite different from the belligerent saber rattling campaign trail Romney. I really don't know what the guy stands for, what he believes (or hopes for), or how he would behave in office. "Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter, to meeee.."(/Queen). Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #24 October 23, 2012 And you really have a clue what Obama stands by? On the up side, two weeks before the election Obama has published his second term agenda..... They both suck.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #25 October 23, 2012 QuoteAnd you really have a clue what Obama stands by? . Yes, he wants YOU to pay more tax. Romney, OTOH, just wants to take away your deductions, or not. He wants military interventions, but doesn't. He supports legislation to outlaw abortions, but doesn't. He says the president can create 12 million jobs but says the government can't create jobs. He is going to repeal the ACA because it's too expensive but keep all the popular parts (which happen to be expensive) Whatever YOU want to hear, Romney is all for it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
