Felt the need to refresh everyone on the term "assault weapon". It's not a machine gun!

[Anvilbrother 0]

Fully automatic weapons were restricted in 1934! Required a tax and registration. It was further restricted. For civilian possession, all machineguns must have been manufactured and registered with the ATF prior to May 19, 1986 to be transferable between citizens.

There are not very many transferable fully auto weapons available to civilians these days, and when you do they will cost you $5,000-$30,000. Plus the tax, and a guarantee that the govmt is watching you and can at anytime come to your house and demand you prove that you still have the gun in your possession.

Your term assault weapons is only a cosmetic term. The definition in the ban included a bayonet lug(they have those on muskets!), pistol grips, high cap magazines, flash suppressors, etc. these things do not amount to anything in terms of their lethality!

An old Remington 742 30-06 deer rifle is more deadly than most of your black "assault rifles". A trained operator is what makes an assault weapon what it is, just like a trained sniper is what makes a snipers rifle. A pistol and a rifle are just that! I bet 99% of the guns used in crimes today in the us are first stolen from legal gun owners/illegally obtained, and second, are just ordinary guns you can get any day of the week at Walmart for the last 40 years!

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[AggieDave 6]

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An oldie but a goodie.

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[StreetScooby 5]

Many times now, I have seen Democratic politicians in NYC proudly hold up shotguns "recovered" where ever, and proudly claim they taken one more automatic weapon off the street. If these guys can't get their names straight, how in the world will any one ever agree to the definition of automatic weapon? It's beyond ridiculous.

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[DrewEckhardt 0]

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Many times now, I have seen Democratic politicians in NYC proudly hold up shotguns "recovered" where ever, and proudly claim they taken one more automatic weapon off the street. If these guys can't get their names straight,

You mean "won't get their names straight."

Any one smart enough to get elected is smart enough to have no problem understanding simple technical details.

Any one smart enough to get elected is also smart enough to know that taking credit for "getting automatic weapons off the street" will do more to keep them in office than "seizing grandpa's bird gun" or the trivial things they actually do personally like passing a bill to dedicate the new Arts Center to the late philanthropist John Smith.

Intentionally misleading the public also serves the elite ruling class's anti-gun agenda. To quote Josh Sugarmann (of "The Violence Policy Center" anti-gun group) who coined the term "Assault Weapon"

"The semi-automatic weapon's menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons -- anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun -- can only increase that chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons."

The correct descriptive phrase is "sport utility" followed by rifle, shotgun, or pistol. Here's a sentence illustrating its use:"My sport utility rifles were stolen from a Washington State storage unit because The Peoples' Republic of California wouldn't let me immigrate with them."

[riddler 0]

Applies to whatever definition local ordinances declare.

For instance, in the city of Denver, any shotgun with a folding stock is considered an assault weapon.

Also, semi-automatic shotguns are permitted, as long as the magazine is five rounds or less. Any more, it's an assault weapon.

I'm not saying any of this makes sense, but that's how it's defined.

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[Anvilbrother 0]

No the folding stock, and the magazine capacity was part of the 1994 clinton assault weapons ban also.

1994 AWB
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

The 1934 restrictions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

The 1968 restrictions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

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[devildog 0]

with a C&R, there's a plethora of autos you can buy. Just because they're 50+ years old, doesn't mean they can't spray with the best of them :)

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.

[Anvilbrother 0]

True, but I dont see young blood on the corner who knocks off liquor stores getting that and buying a BAR legally to do the robery.

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[DrewEckhardt 0]

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True, but I dont see young blood on the corner who knocks off liquor stores getting that and buying a BAR legally to do the robery.

In Britain where guns are more regulated gangsters have machine guns.

I believe the relationship is causal. In America criminals get inexpensive leakage (Raven .22 and .25 pistols) from the legitimate market. With everything they buy coming from a black market it's less of a stretch for British hooligans to pickup AK47s from Eastern Europe or open bolt sub-machine guns which may be locally produced (they're the simplest repeating firearm to manufacture).

[devildog 0]

They're probably not getting any weapon legally. And even if all weapons were made illegal, they'll still get them one way or another.

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.