Candy Crowley Admits Romney Was Right About Libya

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During Tuesday night’s presidential debate, the subject of the al Qaeda terrorist attack in Benghazi came up. Things got heated as Mitt Romney pounded Barack Obama on his refusal to call the attack what it was -- a terrorist attack.

President Obama claimed that he had denounced the act as terrorism a mere 24 hours after it took place, from the White House Rose Garden. That was right before he boarded Air Force One to fly to Las Vegas for a fundraiser, by the way.

That’s really strange, because that’s not the story I’ve been following. I touched upon it in our Moms Matter Google Hangout, but I’d like to break it down here, since everything I’ve been reading and watching points to a White House cover-up, and that’s not an accusation to throw around lightly.

On September 11 of this year, four Americans, including an ambassador, were killed in Benghazi. On September 12, Obama said, “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”

For the next several days, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, U.N. ambassador Susan Rice, and other high-ranking officials repeatedly said the attack broke out from a riot sparked by an offensive YouTube trailer.

It wasn’t until 10 days later that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton managed to call it a terrorist attack. Even after that, President Obama said they were “still doing an investigation,” when asked on The View about the incident.

Weeks later, three separate U.S. intelligence officials admitted that the White House knew within twenty-four hours that the attack had been premeditated and carried out by al Qaeda, which is still extremely active despite the death of Osama bin Laden.

In a hearing earlier this month, security officer Eric Nordstrom testified that he had personally asked for more protection in Benghazi, but was denied. Apparently security was deemed adequate, and to provide any more would be like asking for the “sun, moon, and stars.”

On Monday of this week, Hillary Clinton fell on the sword for Obama by saying that the buck stopped with her regarding the safety and protection of our diplomats. This story had become too huge for Obama to continue to cover up.

Last night during the debate, Barack Obama attempted to rewrite history by claiming he had said it was a terrorist attack from the beginning, because he vaguely referenced ‘acts of terror.’ Ok, if Obama had really thought this was terrorism, why did he and his administration spend weeks insisting that it wasn’t?

Instead of doing her job, moderator Candy Crowley jumped in and defended Obama when Mitt Romney (rightfully) accused him of poor handling of the Libya situation. Got that? The supposedly impartial debate moderator jumped into the debate and took sides.

Not only that, but she picked the wrong side. She picked the wrong side so hard that after the debate, she was forced to admit that Mitt Romney had been right, or risk losing all credibility.

President Obama can attempt to rewrite history all he wants, and the people that only listen to him and never do any fact checking might believe it. I suggest doing your own research.

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Not only that, but she picked the wrong side. She picked the wrong side so hard that after the debate, she was forced to admit that Mitt Romney had been right, or risk losing all credibility.

Uh . . . No.

You can attempt to say Romney was somehow right in what he said, but it's bullshit. Romney's statement was pure bullshit and will continue to be pure bullshit no matter what other bullshit people attempt to say about it.

My god. What does it take?

It's right there in black and white what Omaba said and he acknowledged it as an act of terror right in the Rose Garden. Wtf more do you want?

But no . . . Just keep believing the lies told by the right wing media nutcases like Brietbart.

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Thats YOUR opinion. Sounds like youre getting pissed that romney is catching up in the polls to me.

Go ahead and post your video that shows obama in the rose garden calling it a terrorist threat. Otherwise
your comments are just as pointless as you pointing fingers at Brietbart.

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Thats YOUR opinion.

No. It's simply a fact.

President Obama called it a terrorist act in the Rose Garden. You can check any transcript you'd like including the one in the Brietbart article you posted saying he didn't.

WTF?

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Thats YOUR opinion. Sounds like youre getting pissed that romney is catching up in the polls to me.

Go ahead and post your video that shows obama in the rose garden calling it a terrorist threat. Otherwise
your comments are just as pointless as you pointing fingers at Brietbart.

Crowley and media does not even agree with quade on this one

Let him cry about it all he wants

Crowley fucked up andm most likely will never moderate a pres debate again

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Thats YOUR opinion.

No. It's simply a fact.

President Obama called it a terrorist act in the Rose Garden. You can check any transcript you'd like including the one in the Brietbart article you posted saying he didn't.

WTF?

Dude

talk about head in the sand

ABC, CBS NBC all say Romney was correct and she was wrong

But, for the sake of argument, we will go with your assurtion

Tell me then, why did he send Rice to the sunday shows and say this was a protest about the movie

Why did Obama, at the UN, say the same 6 times days later?

Why did the White house mouth piece keep saying the same WEEKS later?

Come on dude, we dont agree much, but you are smarter than this

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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No. You're simply wrong about that.

I don't blame you, you're only repeating a lie, but you're still wrong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/candy-crowley-libya-fact-check-backtrack_n_1973431.html

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Now tell us the meaning of the word "is".


You cannot have it both ways. It was either a planned terrorist attack by Al Qaeda affiliated groups or it was a protest that turned violent due to a you tube video. Take your pick.

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Now tell us the meaning of the word "is".
You cannot have it both ways. It was either a planned terrorist attack by Al Qaeda affiliated groups or it was a protest that turned violent due to a you tube video. Take your pick.

Really? Those are the only two options? Because I seem to recall a number of protests over the film that day. Why can't it be both? A planned terrorist attack on the day as a result of the film and taking the opportunity of the anniversary date?

Doesn't every terrorist attack have some sort of reasoning behind it? Even if you don't agree with the reason, it still has to make sense in the minds of the terrorists.

So...19 other protests against the film...one really well planned one that is more that just a simple protest.

Why is that impossible?

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What is the difference in "acts of terror" and a "terrorist attack"?

I keep hearing those two expressions tossed about.
Depending of course, on one's perception.

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What is the difference in "acts of terror" and a "terrorist attack"?

I keep hearing those two expressions tossed about.
Depending of course, on one's perception.

I dunno. You're going to have to ask the nitwits at Brietbart to explain that one.

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The way they define "terror" these days in the law, simply calling a bomb threat to a school is terror an act of terror. Blowing the place up would seem to me to be a terror attack.

Louisiana law on it
§40.1. Terrorizing
A. Terrorizing is the intentional communication of information that the commission of a crime of violence is imminent or in progress or that a circumstance dangerous to human life exists or is about to exist, with the intent of causing members of the general public to be in sustained fear for their safety; or causing evacuation of a building, a public structure, or a facility of transportation; or causing other serious disruption to thegeneral public.

Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

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What is the difference in "acts of terror" and a "terrorist attack"?

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Acts of terror are what terrorists do during terrorist attacks.

Rather like skydives are what skydivers do while skydiving, and racing is what racers do during races.

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What is the difference in "acts of terror" and a "terrorist attack"?

I keep hearing those two expressions tossed about.
Depending of course, on one's perception.

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What is the difference in "acts of terror" and a "terrorist attack"?

I keep hearing those two expressions tossed about.
Depending of course, on one's perception.

no one will answer that - if they did, they'd have to admit that the whole argument really is just political posturing by both teams. If the right would stop playing the semantics game and just get down to the real point, they'd do much better.

the real argument is not the verbage, an 'act of terror' can be pre-planned or it can be sparked violence in protest of a video. So the quote is meaningless to the point being made and it's silly of the president and the left to try to use that, and they know it's weak bait.

the point is that this was a planned assault, and blaming a video for a couple weeks when they knew all along it was really a planned assault is what's being put forth



they knew it was a planned assault right away, claiming it was simply a response to a video was a really stupid political ploy that didn't have to be played, and then later pretending it was a 'big surprise and hey it ACTUALLY WAS a planned assault' is poor theator at best.

so the semantics that "act of terror" = "planned terrorists attack" is just a lie. Frankly, had they just admitted it was a planned terrorist attack, I bet Obama could have gotten a LOT of public sentiment and support. The Dems REALLY blew a big political opportunity by just doing the right thing up front. They'd likely have, in one stroke, have put a ribbon on the election - and for the right reasons. Instead, they let their social biases force a two week lie and screwed up big time.

they had no reason to even try the 'it's the video' gambit - I have no idea WHY they did even

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They had no reason to even try the 'it's the video' gambit - I have no idea WHY they did even

Because there were protest against the film in something like 19 other countries at the same time. It's not unreasonable to think that maybe a 20th had simply gotten out of hand, or . . . the attack was simply a MUCH stronger form of protest which rose to the level of being a terrorist attack.

OR . . . The State Department didn't want to use the word "terrorist" for diplomatic reasons since that escalates things to an even higher level. Clearly not everybody was on the same page, but holy hell guys, what President Obama said shouldn't even be in question. It's a black and white historic fact.

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Then holy hell why did he apologize to the attackers???

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No. You're simply wrong about that.

I don't blame you, you're only repeating a lie, but you're still wrong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/candy-crowley-libya-fact-check-backtrack_n_1973431.html

Well, even Crowley says I am right

Go figure

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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They had no reason to even try the 'it's the video' gambit - I have no idea WHY they did even

Because there were protest against the film in something like 19 other countries at the same time. It's not unreasonable to think that maybe a 20th had simply gotten out of hand, or . . . the attack was simply a MUCH stronger form of protest which rose to the level of being a terrorist attack.

OR . . . The State Department didn't want to use the word "terrorist" for diplomatic reasons since that escalates things to an even higher level. Clearly not everybody was on the same page, but holy hell guys, what President Obama said shouldn't even be in question. It's a black and white historic fact.

Only problem is they had lots of intel that a terrorist attack was in the works and did nothing about it. That's the real reason for all the spin.

Since when did you start believing everything the govt. tells you?

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Why dont you answer my questions?

If you can

I will admit I was wrong

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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They had no reason to even try the 'it's the video' gambit - I have no idea WHY they did even

Because there were protest against the film in something like 19 other countries at the same time. It's not unreasonable to think that maybe a 20th had simply gotten out of hand, or . . . the attack was simply a MUCH stronger form of protest which rose to the level of being a terrorist attack.

OR . . . The State Department didn't want to use the word "terrorist" for diplomatic reasons since that escalates things to an even higher level. Clearly not everybody was on the same page, but holy hell guys, what President Obama said shouldn't even be in question. It's a black and white historic fact.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Only problem is they had lots of intel that a terrorist attack was in the works and did nothing about it. That's the real reason for all the spin.

Yet Bush got re-elected. Many more people died in that terrorist attack.

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what President Obama said shouldn't even be in question. It's a black and white historic fact.

absolutely - he said "act of terror" but we all know he didn't, at the time, intend for it to mean an organized terrorist attack. He pulled a John Kerry (or a Mitt Romney if you like) only when that became politically expedient.

the only other explanation is he told the truth at first and then switched to the video excuse and then flipped back

in otherwords, he said it was, before he said it wasn't, before he said it was

pick one

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Only problem is they had lots of intel that a terrorist attack was in the works and did nothing about it. That's the real reason for all the spin.

Yet Bush got re-elected. Many more people died in that terrorist attack.

yup - but he called it what it was and didn't flip flop twice.

But, you have a good point. I won't vote for Bush.

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Only problem is they had lots of intel that a terrorist attack was in the works and did nothing about it. That's the real reason for all the spin.

Yet Bush got re-elected. Many more people died in that terrorist attack.

Bush didn't have specific intel as to where and when. Apparently, Obama did.
You also hammered Bush for 10 years. Where is the outrage now. I guess not enough people died for you to get upset.

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Who cares what it is called?

If the issue is that intell existed and wasn't acted upon. Fine, that is a problem, seems like that particular problem had a less severe result this time.

This argument about what it was called is idiotic.