brenthutch 444 #1 October 19, 2012 "The biggest blow to green tech has come from the marketplace itself. Fossil fuel technology has advanced more quickly than renewables technology. People used to worry that the world would soon run out of oil, but few worry about that now. Shale gas, meanwhile, has become the current hot, revolutionary fuel of the future." http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/opinion/brooks-a-sad-green-story.html?_r=1& Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #2 October 19, 2012 Yeah, shale oil is the next big petroleum thing. Of course, it takes way more energy to process and refine than other grades, so one gets much less bang for the buck. What will be the next fossil fuel so that as shale oil starts to get harder to recover (and more expensive) we can continue to rely entirely on fossil fuels? I don't really see us running cars on coal. Maybe, just maybe, now is a better time than later to look at other options. The more people, the faster they'll use that (shale or any other) oil. And China is buying cars at an incredible rate. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem3 0 #3 October 19, 2012 QuoteI don't really see us running cars on coal. You can make fuel from coal. Hitler ran his army in WWII on the stuff. So, yes, you CAN run cars on coal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #4 October 20, 2012 Sad non-green story Another sad non-green story... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #5 October 21, 2012 QuoteSad non-green story Another sad non-green story Even more sad: http://www.caithnesswindfarms.co.uk/accidents.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #6 October 21, 2012 A total of 120 fatal work injuries occurred in the oil and gas extraction industry in 2008. The three most frequent fatal events in 2008 were transportation incidents (41 percent), contact with objects and equipment (25 percent), and fires and explosions (15 percent). The number of fatal work injuries associated with fires and explosions over the past five years ranged from 10 fatalities in 2007 to 21 fatalities in 2006. In 2008, there were 18 fatalities. Of the transportation incidents in 2008, three-quarters involved highway incidents. There were four fatal work injuries where a pedestrian was struck by a vehicle or mobile equipment and five aircraft fatal work injuries in 2008. Workers who were fatally injured after being struck by objects and equipment accounted for 22 of the 30 fatal work injuries involving contact with objects and equipment. In 2008, multiple-fatal work injury events accounted for 24 worker deaths in 10 different incidents. More than half of these deaths were caused by transportation events, while a third were from fires and explosions. Men accounted for all of these fatal work injuries in 2008. Workers age 25 to 34 incurred the most fatal work injuries (48 fatalities or 40 percent in 2008). The majority of the workers were White, non-Hispanic (75 percent), while 17 percent were Hispanic or Latino2 . Ten fatally injured workers were foreign born in 2008. The three states with the most oil and gas extraction industry fatal work injuries in 2008 were Texas (41 fatal work injuries), Oklahoma (21 fatal work injuries), and Louisiana (13 fatal work injuries). Over the five-year period of 2004-2008, Oklahoma fatal work injuries in the industry have increased 91 percent, while Texas has increased by 21 percent and Louisiana by 30 percent. Support activities for oil and gas operations (NAICS 213112) account for about half of fatal work injuries from 2004 to 2008 in oil and gas industries on average, with 69 fatal work injuries recorded in 2008. Drilling oil and gas wells (NAICS 213111) averaged 34 fatal work injuries over the five-year period, with 37 percent of fatal work injuries resulting from contact with objects of equipment. Oil and Gas Extraction (NAICS 211111) had an average of 21 fatal work injuries.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #7 October 22, 2012 And on a "per unit of energy" basis, wind is much more deadly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
