Intolerance masquerading as tolerance, courtesy of Elon University

[Lefty 0]

Don't you just love institutes of higher learning that value the free exchange of ideas? Lame.

Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
-Calvin

[lawrocket 3]

Don't you get it? Tolerance is all about "They must tolerate us. Failure to tolerate us will not be tolerated."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[funjumper101 15]

It was, at one time, considered to be perfectly fine to have "seperate but equal" facilities for whites and blacks.

It was, at one time, considered to be perfectly fine to prevent white people and black/yellow/orange people from getting married.

It was, up until society continued its evolution, considered perfectly fine to actively discriminate against LBGT people. It is no longer OK.

The pushback against the policies of hatred and denial of human rights is what is happening.

Are reasonable people required to tolerate hatred and denial of human rights? I think not. Where is the line between acceptable and unacceptable?

The students have it right. Economic pressure applied to the haters is one of the tools to solve the issue. Support for organizations that have leaders that promote hatred and bigotry is optional, not mandatory.

I am sure that there are places in the USA that would be delighted to vote in restrictions against people from other races being allowed to rent or own property in their communities. These same people would be happy to return to anti-miscgenation laws, if the Federal government would allow it. Should we tolerate that as acceptable? I think not.

[rushmc 23]

Quote

Are reasonable people required to tolerate hatred and denial of human rights?

You have proven to me that you have NO idea what your post here, means

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,107]

>Don't you just love institutes of higher learning that value the free exchange of ideas?

Yep. And I like that they are free to have any fast food on their campus that they want.

[funjumper101 15]

Quote

Quote

Are reasonable people required to tolerate hatred and denial of human rights?

You have proven to me that you have NO idea what your post here, means

You don't have a clue as to what I mean when I wrote what I wrote? That does reveal quite a bit about you and your values.

Hating people because of how God made them, and trying to deny them the same rights and privleges as white heterosexual people is not acceptable to reasonable people. Why is that kind of hatred acceptable to you? We should tolerate hatred and bigotry? I don't think so.

[DiverMike 5]

Quote

Hating people because of how God made them, and trying to deny them the same rights and privileges as white heterosexual people is not acceptable to reasonable people. Why is that kind of hatred acceptable to you? We should tolerate hatred and bigotry? I don't think so.

What about pedophiles? Did God make them that way? Can I be bigoted against them and not allow convicted pedophiles to be Scout or Church Youth Group Leaders? Wouldn't that be denying them the same rights and privileges as white heterosexual people?

Unless you are enlightened enough to support allowing convicted child sex offenders to run day care centers, you might not want to throw stones.

For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.

[lawrocket 3]

Quote

Are reasonable people required to tolerate hatred

We tolerate you and your hatred of "Rescumlicans" or whatever bogeyman happens to be. It's tolerated, even though plenty of us are mighty fed up with it.

You talk about "tolerance" while spewing hatred unlike anybody on this board. Therein lies the dilemma: you do not despise hate. You embrace it. Your problem with hate is who is doing the hating.

Are reasonable people required to tolerate denial of human rights? You defend the very people who are right now - as we speak - denying human rights. Bush did it. Now Obama is doing it. See "Gitmo." You tolerate extrajudicial assassination, so long as the correct person does it and spew forth vitriol for another doing the same thing because, well, he or she may have an "R" behind the name.

You don't have a problem with hate. You live it and it is exhibited frequently. Hatred for Fox News! Rescumlicans? Shrub? Koch brothers? You name it! Hatin' and flamin' away.

You are what you claim to despise. I simply give you credit for not acting (not that I'm aware of) on this hatred.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[wmw999 2,584]

Actually, I think pedophiles are wired that way, many probably from birth. Unfortunately, because they want unequal relationships (i.e. with minors), it's not acceptable.

I feel very, very sorry for pedophiles. But their behavior cannot be tolerated if it cannot be controlled. And just as some people (both straight and gay) have much stronger sex drives, well, some pedophiles probably do too.

I feel sorry for people who were mistreated enough as children that they could not deal with it, and become homicidal maniacs. But, again, the behavior cannot be tolerated.

That said, I don't think homosexuality is wrong or evil, and if people want to boycott Chilck-Fil-A or Cracker Barrel because of their anti-gay stance, I don't really have a problem with it. Groups deciding to do so in an organized fashion, too. Universities are a little grayer. I also don't have a problem with anyone deciding to take their business where they want to, for whatever reason.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 23]

Quote

Quote

Quote

Are reasonable people required to tolerate hatred and denial of human rights?

You have proven to me that you have NO idea what your post here, means

You don't have a clue as to what I mean when I wrote what I wrote? That does reveal quite a bit about you and your values.

Hating people because of how God made them, and trying to deny them the same rights and privleges as white heterosexual people is not acceptable to reasonable people. Why is that kind of hatred acceptable to you? We should tolerate hatred and bigotry? I don't think so.

As I said
You have no idea about what YOU posted

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DiverMike 5]

I agree completely with your posting. I guess the point I was trying to make is we are all intolerant of some forms of behavior people exhibit.

For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.

[blueblur 0]

Quote

Quote

Quote

Are reasonable people required to tolerate hatred and denial of human rights?

You have proven to me that you have NO idea what your post here, means

You don't have a clue as to what I mean when I wrote what I wrote? That does reveal quite a bit about you and your values.

Hating people because of how God made them, and trying to deny them the same rights and privleges as white heterosexual people is not acceptable to reasonable people. Why is that kind of hatred acceptable to you? We should tolerate hatred and bigotry? I don't think so.

What about the men of Sodom (sodomy, anyone?) and Gomorrah that wanted to "know" the visiting angels (in the biblical sense...) and were then destroyed by a wrathful God for their wicked ways? Didn't God create them in his own image which would be a massive contradiction if He then destroyed them for those ways?

In every man's life he will be allotted one good woman and one good dog. That's all you get, so appreciate them while the time you have with them lasts.

- RiggerLee

[billvon 3,107]

> Can I be bigoted against them and not allow convicted pedophiles to be Scout or
>Church Youth Group Leaders? Wouldn't that be denying them the same rights and
>privileges as white heterosexual people?

I think you can decide to not allow ANY convicted sex offenders to be Scout leaders no matter what their sexual preference.

>Wouldn't that be denying them the same rights and privileges as white
>heterosexual people?

?? Many pedophiles ARE white heterosexual people. But again, that doesn't matter - what matters is that they are convicted of a sex crime.

[DiverMike 5]

Quote

I think you can decide to not allow ANY convicted sex offenders to be Scout leaders no matter what their sexual preference.

Agreed.

Ok, to make it a more ridiculous point, can I show my intolerance by not allowing card carrying members of North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) to be Boy Scout Leaders, even if they haven't committed a crime, but espouse pedophilia?

The point I was trying to make is we are all intolerant and shouldn't throw stones.

For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.

[lawrocket 3]

Quote

The point I was trying to make is we are all intolerant and shouldn't throw stones.

Bingo!

Even the Taliban is acting all out of sorts, complaining that the media is being unfair in covering their assassination attempt of Malala Yousafzai.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[AndyBoyd 0]

I think what this poster is trying to say is that there is a historical trend in America towards expanding civil rights. This happenned for women and minorities in many different ways. Things that we take for granted now -- women as equals in the workplace, interracial marriage, for example -- were not always the norm. We can see this inevitable march towards acceptance happening today with attitudes towards homosexuality. Young people today are much more likely to be tolerant of gays and support things like gay marriage, while older people are not so tolerant.

http://www.newswise.com/articles/americans-move-dramatically-to-acceptance-of-homosexuality

If this trend continues, 50 years from now when most of us are dead and gone, or at least old and gray, being gay will be no big deal, gay marriage will be the norm, and everyone will wonder what the fuss was about. Kicking and screaming against this inevitable evolution towards equal rights is pointless. The country's attitude towards gay rights is slowly and inevitably changing towards tolerance.