Shredex 0 #26 October 9, 2012 When people don't like Obama too much, but refuse Romney, I always point them to Gary Johnson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #27 October 9, 2012 QuoteNot only has Romney been attacked but even Romney's WIFE has been attacked -- and that is just disgusting. Which personal attacks on Romney and his wife are you talking about? Are you equally disgusted by personal attacks on Barack and Michelle Obama? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #28 October 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteNot only has Romney been attacked but even Romney's WIFE has been attacked -- and that is just disgusting. Which personal attacks on Romney and his wife are you talking about? Are you equally disgusted by personal attacks on Barack and Michelle Obama? I am. I think the personal attacks on someones family says more about the person or organization making the attack, don't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #29 October 9, 2012 QuoteHow about those who have made up their minds before the debates even started? That's kinda my point. I know people who will never, ever vote for Romney. Debates be damned. Watching the debate, for most people, is like watching a football game. PEople go in rooting for their team. After one candidate get his ass handed to him, the supporters figure, "Bad day, but we have to prepare for next week. Go team!" Then there's the whole fair-weather fan bandwagon aspect. Jump on with the winner. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #30 October 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteNot only has Romney been attacked but even Romney's WIFE has been attacked -- and that is just disgusting. Which personal attacks on Romney and his wife are you talking about? Are you equally disgusted by personal attacks on Barack and Michelle Obama? Attacks on Michelle, yes I am. However, when someone's bio on their own memoir states they're born in another country, and his grandmother also states he's born in another country, I don't think asking him to prove where he was born is an attack. I do know where Romney was born, where his father worked, what he did. Discussing what someone has done/not done is not an attack. Attributing motives to that may be an attack. It is not an attack to call Obama incompetent because of the fact that he has not done what he promised to do.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #31 October 9, 2012 I agree that families should be off limits until they put themselves in the spotlight for political purposes. I think attacks on Romney's wife for things she said at the convention and political events are fair game. Attacks on her for other things are low class. Same is the case for Michelle Obama. As far as personal attacks on the candidates, I haven't seen as much of that in this cycles as in the past. I was not expecting RStanley and other posters to bring that up, since I hadn't really seen a lot of attacks that I consider personal against Romney. Attacking him for the 47% thing is not personal. Attacking him for his history with Bain is not personal. I guess I'm not sure what attacks people see as disgusting. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #32 October 9, 2012 QuoteHowever, when someone's bio on their own memoir states they're born in another country, and his grandmother also states he's born in another country, I don't think asking him to prove where he was born is an attack. How about when they've definitively proved where and when they were born? Is continuing to imply that they are a foreigner a personal attack? You didn't answer my first question. What attacks on the Romney have you found disgusting? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #33 October 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteHowever, when someone's bio on their own memoir states they're born in another country, and his grandmother also states he's born in another country, I don't think asking him to prove where he was born is an attack. How about when they've definitively proved where and when they were born? Is continuing to imply that they are a foreigner a personal attack? You didn't answer my first question. What attacks on the Romney have you found disgusting? I still haven't seen proof of where and when Obama was born. As I said, attributing motives to someone can be an attack. How many people have you heard saying that Romney doesn't care about people? He simply has a different philosophy on how to help them.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #34 October 9, 2012 QuoteWhat attacks on the Romney have you found disgusting? I heard he was accused of being married to a known equestrian. Also, he can speak French. Does that qualify? Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #35 October 9, 2012 Have you seem "proof" of where Mitt Romney was born?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #36 October 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteRomney has been attacked on a personal level that has disgusted me and many others. What personal attacks are you talking about? Are you equally disgusted by the personal attacks on Obama? I am by all of them but Obama and his Super Pacs have gone too far. Romney and his pacs attack Obama's record and but the left accuses Romney of murder. Very different.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #37 October 9, 2012 QuoteHave you seem "proof" of where Mitt Romney was born? As I said, I know Romney's father's background, so yes, I know where Romney was born. I don't need proof. Where the candidate's own memoir and grandmother imply that he was born outside the country, then yes, people are entitled to question the location of his birth and ask for proof. If his memoir hadn't stated he was born outside the country, and his grandmother hadn't stated he was born outside the country, then it probably wouldn't be relevant. But they did.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #38 October 9, 2012 Nonsense.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #39 October 9, 2012 that's your opinion.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #40 October 9, 2012 Okay, so the one as that implied Romney's policies led to the death of that woman was out of line. I agree with that. Was that your only problem? I live in Virginia, and am constantly bombarded by attack ads. They seem to be focused on policies, however tenuous to reality their claims may be. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #41 October 9, 2012 QuoteI still haven't seen proof of where and when Obama was born. Birth certificate and birth announcement in the paper not proof enough, huh? QuoteHow many people have you heard saying that Romney doesn't care about people? Not as many as I heard saying Obama wants to destroy America and put the Soviet Union in it's place. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #42 October 9, 2012 No, sir. Objective fact.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #43 October 9, 2012 QuoteOkay, so the one as that implied Romney's policies led to the death of that woman was out of line. I agree with that. Was that your only problem? I live in Virginia, and am constantly bombarded by attack ads. They seem to be focused on policies, however tenuous to reality their claims may be. Well that is an example right? I live in Ohio and I am sure I see as much if not more than you.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #44 October 9, 2012 QuoteNo, sir. Objective fact. bullshit.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #45 October 9, 2012 It's not an example of a trend if it's the only one of it's kind. Can you think of any other personal attack ads? I can't, but maybe they are out there. The ads from both sides are almost entirely negative, which I find really annoying, but they do at least try to address issues instead of personality. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #46 October 9, 2012 QuoteIt's not an example of a trend if it's the only one of it's kind. Can you think of any other personal attack ads? I can't, but maybe they are out there. The ads from both sides are almost entirely negative, which I find really annoying, but they do at least try to address issues instead of personality. What about Biden telling black people that the right wanted to "put y'all back in chains"? Straight from his mouth?Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #47 October 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteNo, sir. Objective fact. bullshit. No, sir. What you did right there is opinion. Having a double standard with regards to proof is nonsense. And that's a fact.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #48 October 9, 2012 QuoteAre you Buzz Bissinger, or was this meant to be a quote? ---------------------------------- Theres a URL at the bottom of the original post linked to the article. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #49 October 9, 2012 QuoteWhat about Biden telling black people that the right wanted to "put y'all back in chains"? Straight from his mouth? Not sure how that's an attack on Romney's person. It's out of line, but not a personal attack. It's akin to the right saying that Obama hates your success and want's to punish people for doing well. It's not true, but not a personal attack. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #50 October 9, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhat about Biden telling black people that the right wanted to "put y'all back in chains"? Straight from his mouth? Not sure how that's an attack on Romney's person. It's out of line, but not a personal attack. It's akin to the right saying that Obama hates your success and want's to punish people for doing well. It's not true, but not a personal attack. That is something we will have to disagree on. Saying someone hates your success and telling people that the right (Romney/Ryan) want to go back to slavery is very different in my mind.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
