rushmc 23 #1 September 27, 2012 Will the media and those here see this the same? QuoteDuring a speech at Ohio University in Athens, OH on September 8, Vice President Joe Biden led his audience to believe he had been a college football player for his alma mater -- Delaware University -- and had played against Ohio University in a 1963 football game. His words contradicted his own memoir, in which he wrote he gave up playing football while at Delaware, and Internet records of past Delaware football team rosters, on which he is not listed. On fanbase.com, a site that archives college football rosters, Biden is not listed on Delaware's 1961, 1962, 1963, or 1964 football rosters. Biden attended Delaware University from 1961 to 1965 and graduated in 1965 with a double major in history and political science. In his September 8 speech, Biden, to set up a story about how he was almost arrested on Ohio University’s campus in 1963, said he came to Ohio University then because “my football team, the University of Delaware, came to avenge a loss” from 1961. “I came ... I was a football player ... I came here in 1963 ... and we beat you Bobcats, 29-12,” Biden said. Clearly, Biden was making the audience believe he had played football against Ohio University in 1963. Reporters at the event thought so as well. ABC News reported: On this football Saturday, Biden recounted his first trip to Athens in 1963 when he was playing football at the University of Delaware, declaring, “I still am a football nut.” Biden said he “went back in the Internet and I just want you to know I came here on October 19, 1963 and we beat you Bobcats 29-12." Internet records do show that Delaware did play and defeat Ohio on October 19, 1963. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 September 27, 2012 Classic QuoteBut even this account is doubtful because on page 162 in the sports section of Delaware University’s 1961 yearbook, Biden is not listed on the freshman football team’s roster. Biden has exaggerated other aspects of his college record in the past, misstating the number of degrees he obtained and how well he did in law school. He has admitted to plagiarizing a paper while attending Syracuse University College of Law. Biden also withdrew from his 1988 campaign for president when he was caught plagiarizing British politician Neil Kinnock’s words and ideas on the stump during the Democratic primary. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 September 28, 2012 Biden lying or plaigarizing barely gets a notice because he got elected despite a history of both of these. Ryan, otoh, had a party proclaimed history of honesty and of course is well known for the P90X type stuff. His lie also involved giving himself an fairly elite marathon time, whereas playing ball for Delaware U impresses no one, not even the Ivy League players. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #4 September 28, 2012 QuoteBiden lying or plaigarizing barely gets a notice because he got elected despite a history of both of these. Ryan, otoh, had a party proclaimed history of honesty and of course is well known for the P90X type stuff. His lie also involved giving himself an fairly elite marathon time, whereas playing ball for Delaware U impresses no one, not even the Ivy League players. Yeah, a 2:50ish time is great for a recreational runner, but not anything like fairly elite. I'd say it's no better than playing football at UDeleware. Anyway, I can't believe anybody is basing their vote on either of these two things and have to think that it is just people with their mind made up already looking for confirmation of their own biases."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites