rushmc 23 #26 September 27, 2012 QuoteCongratulations! You simultaneously blamed Obama for the economy then bitched about people who blamed Bush! A reversal in two sentences. Not a new record for you but an excellent effort. Why thank you And you continue your on going string of ignoring thread context We will see who record run ends first OK?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #27 September 27, 2012 >And you continue your on going string of ignoring thread context Since your thread context is always identical ("I hate Obama and think democrats are idiots") we'll just take it as a given. >We will see who record run ends first OK? Yes! And then run record up ends after no deep run way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #28 September 27, 2012 Quote >And you continue your on going string of ignoring thread context Since your thread context is always identical ("I hate Obama and think democrats are idiots") we'll just take it as a given. >We will see who record run ends first OK? Yes! And then run record up ends after no deep run way. String continues"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #29 September 28, 2012 Quote I think there is a simple, but not painless, fix to this And the biggest step is shrinking the gov by more than 30% right off the bat So we tried that sort of approach in the late 70s...Republicans used the spectre of another Carter for 2 more decades until Clinton took it away from them. Note that Reagan very quickly jacked up federal spending to make it "happy times" again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #30 September 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteThis has been smoldering for 4 decades; with the odd splash of gas thrown on here and there by short-sighted leadership. Neither Obama nor anyone else is going to end it quickly. And no, this is not a recovery. I'm afraid we are still a ways from bottoming out, possibly quite a long way. I think there is a simple, but not painless, fix to this And the biggest step is shrinking the gov by more than 30% right off the bat Gradually and very carefully cutting expenses is good. However, a public sector in freefall is a good indicator a society is in it's death throes; much more so than 20% living on the dole. This is something the wealthy don't get because they are certain they can use their money and power to insulate themselves. They are good with abandoning entire sectors of the public domain because they can hire their own. Such as police. They are fine with massive cuts and the short-term consequences - they just hire their own security. I believe I read that private security forces have outnumbered public police since about the mid-90's. History shows a retreating from the public domain is fraught with peril." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #31 September 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteThis has been smoldering for 4 decades; with the odd splash of gas thrown on here and there by short-sighted leadership. Neither Obama nor anyone else is going to end it quickly. And no, this is not a recovery. I'm afraid we are still a ways from bottoming out, possibly quite a long way. I think there is a simple, but not painless, fix to this And the biggest step is shrinking the gov by more than 30% right off the bat Looks like Obama is your man, then. Reagan (1980–1988) 649.7 to 1143.8; +76.1 percent in 8 years Bush I (1988–1992) 1143.8 to 1484.3; +29.8 percent in 4 years Clinton (1992–2000) 1484.3 to 1942.5; +30.9 percent in 8 years Bush II (2000–2008) 1942.5 to 3219.8; +65.8 percent in 8 years Obama (2008–2012) 3219.8 to 3705.2; +15.1 percent in 3 years Biggest spending increases in a generation came from GOP presidents Reagan and GWB.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 September 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteThis has been smoldering for 4 decades; with the odd splash of gas thrown on here and there by short-sighted leadership. Neither Obama nor anyone else is going to end it quickly. And no, this is not a recovery. I'm afraid we are still a ways from bottoming out, possibly quite a long way. I think there is a simple, but not painless, fix to this And the biggest step is shrinking the gov by more than 30% right off the bat Looks like Obama is your man, then. Reagan (1980–1988) 649.7 to 1143.8; +76.1 percent in 8 years Bush I (1988–1992) 1143.8 to 1484.3; +29.8 percent in 4 years Clinton (1992–2000) 1484.3 to 1942.5; +30.9 percent in 8 years Bush II (2000–2008) 1942.5 to 3219.8; +65.8 percent in 8 years Obama (2008–2012) 3219.8 to 3705.2; +15.1 percent in 3 years Biggest spending increases in a generation came from GOP presidents Reagan and GWB. been through that lie already"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #33 September 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThis has been smoldering for 4 decades; with the odd splash of gas thrown on here and there by short-sighted leadership. Neither Obama nor anyone else is going to end it quickly. And no, this is not a recovery. I'm afraid we are still a ways from bottoming out, possibly quite a long way. I think there is a simple, but not painless, fix to this And the biggest step is shrinking the gov by more than 30% right off the bat Looks like Obama is your man, then. Reagan (1980–1988) 649.7 to 1143.8; +76.1 percent in 8 years Bush I (1988–1992) 1143.8 to 1484.3; +29.8 percent in 4 years Clinton (1992–2000) 1484.3 to 1942.5; +30.9 percent in 8 years Bush II (2000–2008) 1942.5 to 3219.8; +65.8 percent in 8 years Obama (2008–2012) 3219.8 to 3705.2; +15.1 percent in 3 years Biggest spending increases in a generation came from GOP presidents Reagan and GWB. been through that lie already Just because a fact is inconvenient for you doesn't make it a lie.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #34 September 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThis has been smoldering for 4 decades; with the odd splash of gas thrown on here and there by short-sighted leadership. Neither Obama nor anyone else is going to end it quickly. And no, this is not a recovery. I'm afraid we are still a ways from bottoming out, possibly quite a long way. I think there is a simple, but not painless, fix to this And the biggest step is shrinking the gov by more than 30% right off the bat Looks like Obama is your man, then. Reagan (1980–1988) 649.7 to 1143.8; +76.1 percent in 8 years Bush I (1988–1992) 1143.8 to 1484.3; +29.8 percent in 4 years Clinton (1992–2000) 1484.3 to 1942.5; +30.9 percent in 8 years Bush II (2000–2008) 1942.5 to 3219.8; +65.8 percent in 8 years Obama (2008–2012) 3219.8 to 3705.2; +15.1 percent in 3 years Biggest spending increases in a generation came from GOP presidents Reagan and GWB. been through that lie already Just because a fact is inconvenient for you doesn't make it a lie. Look it up Already talked about here and debunked Misinformation at best Really just a lie you keep repeating"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #35 September 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThis has been smoldering for 4 decades; with the odd splash of gas thrown on here and there by short-sighted leadership. Neither Obama nor anyone else is going to end it quickly. And no, this is not a recovery. I'm afraid we are still a ways from bottoming out, possibly quite a long way. I think there is a simple, but not painless, fix to this And the biggest step is shrinking the gov by more than 30% right off the bat Looks like Obama is your man, then. Reagan (1980–1988) 649.7 to 1143.8; +76.1 percent in 8 years Bush I (1988–1992) 1143.8 to 1484.3; +29.8 percent in 4 years Clinton (1992–2000) 1484.3 to 1942.5; +30.9 percent in 8 years Bush II (2000–2008) 1942.5 to 3219.8; +65.8 percent in 8 years Obama (2008–2012) 3219.8 to 3705.2; +15.1 percent in 3 years Biggest spending increases in a generation came from GOP presidents Reagan and GWB. been through that lie already Just because a fact is inconvenient for you doesn't make it a lie. Look it up Already talked about here and debunked Misinformation at best Really just a lie you keep repeating In your dreams blogs-images.forbes.com/rickungar/files/2012/09/MW-AR658_spendi_20120521163312_ME1.jpg... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #36 September 28, 2012 QuoteReally just a lie you keep repeating So, I was curious who was right and who was wrong on this question. So I Googled it. Came up with this Forbes article (hardly a liberal rag): http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/ Can you explain what Forbes got wrong? By the way, I'm not an Obama supporter. But I <3 verifiable data. I note it is from their "left wing contributor." However, presumptively, as it was published in Forbes, they didn't feel he was "making up data." [Edited to add penultimate sentence.] [Edited again to add the now final sentence.]Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
