Barack Sixpack

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Doesn't quite have the same ring as "Joe Sixpack," but that seems to be the image he's going for these days. So do any of you beer lovers find Obama more appealing because of his apparent love of beer?

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Doesn't quite have the same ring as "Joe Sixpack," but that seems to be the image he's going for these days. So do any of you beer lovers find Obama more appealing because of his apparent love of beer?

Nothing new here except for throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/obama-on-beer-drinking-qu_n_122923.html

[RonD1120 62]

As a recovering alcoholic, just one more reason not to vote for him.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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As a recovering alcoholic, just one more reason not to vote for him.

Did you vote for the alcoholic in 2000 & 2004, or for Gore and Kerry?

Did you vote for Obama in 2008 because McCain's wife served as chair of her family's Anheuser-Busch distributorship and son served as the company's chief financial officer? Or the fact that McCain himself also once worked as the head publicist for the Arizona-based distributor, Hensley & Co.?

God bless Google. I'm so funny.

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Doesn't quite have the same ring as "Joe Sixpack," but that seems to be the image he's going for these days. So do any of you beer lovers find Obama more appealing because of his apparent love of beer?

Absolutely! That's what the American Presidential Election is about: who you'd want to have a beer with.

John Kerry: Stiff. Bush 43: Fun (I know about the decades of sobriety, although facts aren't relevant to marketing).

Mitt Romney: No fun. Obama: A regular beer drinking buddy.

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As a recovering alcoholic, just one more reason not to vote for him.

I'm offensive, and I find this very Christian.

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Just to add the kind of story that I was referring to:

http://news.yahoo.com/buzz-obama-beer-way-connect-215414817--election.html?_esi=1

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URBANDALE, Iowa (AP) — President Barack Obama was barely back in Iowa, ready to drink in the adulation of supporters, when the booze news broke: The White House beer recipe is out.

The tweet from presidential spokesman Jay Carney along the motorcade ride seemed light enough — we're talking about honey-flavored beer here — but it also served up a reminder of a campaign imperative. Obama wants to be the guy with whom people want to have a beer.

As constituencies go, Obama would seem to have the voting bloc locked up, given that his opponent, Republican Mitt Romney, does not consume alcohol given his Mormon faith.

But as a political symbol, beer is not just about beer.

It is about the likeable, accessible, regular guy who relates to life in the real world and enjoys popping a cold one. Sure, taste counts, but so do votes.

Romney and Obama are both wealthy men who, in the final two months of the campaign, are trying to build support and turnout among the working-class crowd.

It is why Obama's day in Iowa was not just about his speeches in two cities, but his unexpected stop in Bob Roe's Point After Pizza & Lounge in Sioux City, where one woman wore a t-shirt that said "It's never too early to tailgate."

During his term, Obama has sought to find some racial harmony over beer (there was that media-hyped "beer summit" in the Rose Garden.) He has worked the crowds in sports bars and college bars. He has bought a round for folks at the Iowa State Fair, where the standard cry of political rallies — "Four More Years!" — morphed into the more memorable "Four More Beers!"

And now he even brews his own.

Well, the chefs at the most famous and powerful house in America brew it for him, but it was his idea, and he bought the brewing kit.

"Brewing beer is becoming a thing that Americans are doing in their houses and garages across the country," said White House chef Sam Kass in a video posted Saturday on the White House web site. "And the president certainly thought it would be a great idea to see if would join the American people in that time-honored tradition."

The Obama team knew it had a buzz going here.

Word spread about the home-brewed White House beer last month when Obama, during another stop in Iowa, got in a conversation with a local resident about it. The president had an aide bring the man a bottle of the beer brewed in the White House kitchen.

Since then, growing interest and even a petition drive led the White House to release the recipe just as Obama starts his battleground-state tour toward the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte.

"Ale to the Chief," said the White House blog post, which included a link to the brewing process.

The White House's rookie brew crew has made three kinds: Honey Brown Ale, Honey Porter and Honey Blonde Ale, although recipes for the first two only were released on Saturday. Kass said on-site historians have determined this is the first time alcohol has been brewed or distilled at the White House.

Add that to Obama's first-term record.

[RonD1120 62]

Yeah, it was my poor attempt to be humorous as well.

It does not matter so much where a person came from or what they did in the past. What matters is where they are going. Obama is always headed on the path of socialism and I am against that ideology.

The best guidance I know is to vote the path that supports the Bible.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Yes just ignore the issues in the election. Just ignore the extremely poor economy, just ignore that Obama added 5 trillion worth of additional debt in his four years, just ignore that Obama only plans on spending even more money if he gets re-elected. All that matters is that he apparently likes to drink a beer. Would I have a beer with Obama? Of course I would, but I wouldn't be having a beer just because he is Obama. No I would be having a beer because I had a beer in my hands.

You tell me, what is more important? The out of control and unsustainable entitlement spending? Or that Obama says he likes to drink beer?

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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Obama is always headed on the path of socialism and I am against that ideology.

The best guidance I know is to vote the path that supports the Bible.

I'm sure you can spin the Bible however you want, but the teachings of Christ seem to fit more with socialism than with capitalism, at least to me.

(On a side note, when I did a spell check here, it wanted to replace "Obama" with "Opium." Hmm.... )

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Yes just ignore the issues in the election.

That seems to be the message from the barrage of "beer news" I've seen lately. And coming from the apparently liberal-controlled media, I'm guessing they think this is a positive thing, though personally I'm thinking WTF??? It's not enough to change my vote one way or another, but I do find it an odd thing to be giving much attention.

Anyhow, I'm not too fond of beer, so I don't really want to have a beer with Obama or anyone else. I'd gladly have a cup of joe with Mr. Biden though.

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I'm sure you can spin the Bible however you want, but the teachings of Christ seem to fit more with socialism than with capitalism, at least to me.

(On a side note, when I did a spell check here, it wanted to replace "Obama" with "Opium." Hmm.... )

Those of us who actually study Scripture can tell the difference.

Obama for the masses. Hmmm indeed, could it be Liberal addiction.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Those of us who actually study Scripture can tell the difference.

You mean Supply-side Jesus is the real deal?

Don

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[billvon 3,120]

>but the teachings of Christ seem to fit more with socialism than with
>capitalism, at least to me.

You may be reading the wrong Bible.

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Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, and he began to teach them.

He said:

Blessed are the powerful,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who are beset by the poor,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the rich,
for they will inherit all their parent's possessions.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for tax relief,
for their coffers will be filled.
Blessed are the one percent,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the free marketers
for they will see God.
Blessed are the investment bankers,
for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of their wealth and power,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of your money. Rejoice and be glad, because great will be your financial reward.
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Those of us who actually study Scripture can tell the difference.

it's rather ironic that as a devout Christian, you would side with the one who denies the divinity of Christ and oppose the one who accepts it.

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Those of us who actually study Scripture can tell the difference.

it's rather ironic that as a devout Christian, you would side with the one who denies the divinity of Christ and oppose the one who accepts it.

But one of them is only 47% Caucasian.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[RonD1120 62]

???

I wonder what you and the other Liberals receive as a personal payoff for supporting BHO?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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it's rather ironic that as a devout Christian, you would side with the one who denies the divinity of Christ and oppose the one who accepts it.

As I have stated before, unlike the Liberals I am not looking for a messiah. I have one in Christ Jesus.

I want the mechanic who can fix it. BHO has proven he has no clue. And then, there are those pesky hot button issues.

What is your personal payoff for supporting BHO?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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...unlike the Liberals I am not looking for a messiah.

This "messiah" bullshit is crap invented by conservatives because it saves them from having to actually think about real issues and solutions. No-one regards Obama as any sort of "messiah", just someone with somewhat better ideas than "double down on trickle down". If anyone is pretending to be a "messiah" it is Romney, who is offering to perform miracles such as adding 12 million new jobs in his first term but he refuses to say how. His plan to balance the budget by cutting taxes to the wealthy, while increasing military spending and not touching medicare spending, remind me of the "loaves and fishes" story.

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I have one in Supply-Side Christ Jesus.

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I want the mechanic that can fix it. BHO has proven he has no clue.

All Romney/Ryan have offered is the conservative mantra that if you just cut taxes on the richest people, they would immediately turn around and use that money to create jobs. History and experience indicate otherwise, but for conservatives real-world experience will never be enough to shake their faith in supply-side trickle down. BHO has produced budgets that have a combination of spending cuts and tax increases; I believe both will be necessary to get out of this fiscal hole.

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And then, there are those pesky hot button issues.

Ah yes. Like, the party of "small government" dictating to women what they can and can't do with their own bodies? Or an unseemly desire to punish children for the misdeeds of their parents?

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What is your personal payoff for supporting BHO?

Under BHO, I expect my taxes will increase. However, I also think that is necessary to correct the damage done by excessive tax cutting by irresponsible Republicans. I cannot see how Romney/Ryan can even try to balance the budget yet give more tax breaks to the wealthy, increase military spending, and not make any changes to medicare (according to Romney but not Ryan), without closing every other thing the government does, and even that won't be enough to balance revenues and spending. The Romney/Ryan plan will destroy every measure of public health and safety (CDC, food inspections, pollution enforcement, etc), and exclude millions from access to education at a time when the rest of the world is investing in the education of their population, thereby ensuring that the US will become an economic backwater devoted almost entirely to the military. What I get from supporting BHO is some measure of hope that the country will pull out of this mess, which was largely due to Republic-led misadventures including deregulation of the financial industry and unfunded wars of choice.

Don

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What is your personal payoff for supporting BHO?

Under BHO, I expect my taxes will increase. However, I also think....
Don

So, an increase in taxes is your payoff and for you that is a positive benefit. OK

The rest of your paragraph was intellectualism not personal information.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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So, an increase in taxes is your payoff and for you that is a positive benefit. OK

The rest of your paragraph was intellectualism not personal information.

And we all know how allergic you are to "intellectualism". No need to think things through, just go with what your "gut", or better yet your tribal leaders, tell you to think.

Here's a "head's-up" for you, Ron. It's called "delayed gratification". It's called "planning for the future". Some people realize that you have to work hard, and make some sacrifices now, to get something you want down the road. Some of us, for example, spent considerable time obtaining an education, so that later we could have a career that provides for both a decent income and some measure of stimulation/challenge/satisfaction. Others drop out of school to take a low-paying crap job so they can buy a fast car. The idea that you have to put up with some pain in the near term to get a payoff later may be novel to you, Ron, but trust me it works. What I want is a country that is on a sound financial footing, that provides essential services for people, and that facilitates measures that are necessary for long-term competitiveness on a global stage. That would be my payoff for the pain of higher taxes.

Politicians in general, but especially Republicans, have for many years been selling snake oil that promises all manner of government-provided goodies, and "someone else" will pay for it. The poor expect the rich to pay, and the rich expect the poor to pay, so the guy in the middle ends up paying some, but mostly nobody pays. Only a moron buys into the mantra that nothing the government does is worthwhile. Only a moron buys into the idea that no-body has to pay for it. Only a moron buys into the idea that the wealthy are overtaxed, and if their burden were only lessened they would use all that money and more to hire more people.

Only a moron believes that doing whatever feels good at the moment, without any thought to the long-term future, will automatically lead to the best possible outcome.

A habit of going with what "feels good" at the moment, without thought to the longer term, tends to lead to things like addiction.

Don't be a moron.

Don

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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

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Messiah bullshit??

Ah

It is BHO supporters who have said thinks like the following


I get a tingle up my leg when he speaks

I will not have to worry about gas for my car or paying my mortgage

I am here to get BHO money

I can link youtube vides for these and many more it you like

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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So, an increase in taxes is your payoff and for you that is a positive benefit. OK

The rest of your paragraph was intellectualism not personal information.

And we all know how allergic you are to "intellectualism". No need to think things through, just go with what your "gut", or better yet your tribal leaders, tell you to think.

Here's a "head's-up" for you, Ron. It's called "delayed gratification". It's called "planning for the future". Some people realize that you have to work hard, and make some sacrifices now, to get something you want down the road. Some of us, for example, spent considerable time obtaining an education, so that later we could have a career that provides for both a decent income and some measure of stimulation/challenge/satisfaction. Others drop out of school to take a low-paying crap job so they can buy a fast car. The idea that you have to put up with some pain in the near term to get a payoff later may be novel to you, Ron, but trust me it works. What I want is a country that is on a sound financial footing, that provides essential services for people, and that facilitates measures that are necessary for long-term competitiveness on a global stage. That would be my payoff for the pain of higher taxes.

Politicians in general, but especially Republicans, have for many years been selling snake oil that promises all manner of government-provided goodies, and "someone else" will pay for it. The poor expect the rich to pay, and the rich expect the poor to pay, so the guy in the middle ends up paying some, but mostly nobody pays. Only a moron buys into the mantra that nothing the government does is worthwhile. Only a moron buys into the idea that no-body has to pay for it. Only a moron buys into the idea that the wealthy are overtaxed, and if their burden were only lessened they would use all that money and more to hire more people.

Only a moron believes that doing whatever feels good at the moment, without any thought to the long-term future, will automatically lead to the best possible outcome.

A habit of going with what "feels good" at the moment, without thought to the longer term, tends to lead to things like addiction.

Don't be a moron.

Don

What "snake oil" has the Repulicans offered the people?

I can provide a long list of "snake oil" remidies offered by the Dems

Shall we exchange?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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You're really on a roll in this thread.

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It does not matter so much where a person came from or what they did in the past.

Really? Then why all the focus on what Obama did in grade school and college decades ago?

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The best guidance I know is to vote the path that supports the Bible.

Romney clearly doesn't support the Bible as you understand it. How can you vote for him if that's your position?

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I want the mechanic who can fix it.

Um, which is it? Supporting the Bible, or practical fixes to the economy?

- Dan G

[RonD1120 62]

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So, an increase in taxes is your payoff and for you that is a positive benefit. OK

The rest of your paragraph was intellectualism not personal information.

And we all know how allergic you are to "intellectualism". No need to think things through, just go with what your "gut", or better yet your tribal leaders, tell you to think.

Here's a "head's-up" for you, Ron. It's called "delayed gratification". It's called "planning for the future". Some people realize that you have to work hard, and make some sacrifices now, to get something you want down the road. Some of us, for example, spent considerable time obtaining an education, so that later we could have a career that provides for both a decent income and some measure of stimulation/challenge/satisfaction. Others drop out of school to take a low-paying crap job so they can buy a fast car. The idea that you have to put up with some pain in the near term to get a payoff later may be novel to you, Ron, but trust me it works. What I want is a country that is on a sound financial footing, that provides essential services for people, and that facilitates measures that are necessary for long-term competitiveness on a global stage. That would be my payoff for the pain of higher taxes.

Politicians in general, but especially Republicans, have for many years been selling snake oil that promises all manner of government-provided goodies, and "someone else" will pay for it. The poor expect the rich to pay, and the rich expect the poor to pay, so the guy in the middle ends up paying some, but mostly nobody pays. Only a moron buys into the mantra that nothing the government does is worthwhile. Only a moron buys into the idea that no-body has to pay for it. Only a moron buys into the idea that the wealthy are overtaxed, and if their burden were only lessened they would use all that money and more to hire more people.

Only a moron believes that doing whatever feels good at the moment, without any thought to the long-term future, will automatically lead to the best possible outcome.

A habit of going with what "feels good" at the moment, without thought to the longer term, tends to lead to things like addiction.

Don't be a moron.

Don

Don't be defensive. I am trying to understand you, as well as the other Liberal skydivers, not what you think.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.