BHO fumbles diplomatic football

[RonD1120 62]

The President too busy to meet with PM Benjamin Netanyahu at UN General Assembly. Note, they are both scheduled to speak before the assembly. But, he did talk to him on the phone, according to news talk.


"But now comes word that Mr. Obama will not even meet with Mr. Netanyahu during the latter's visit later this month to the U.S. Scheduling conflicts, you know."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444017504577645783452753176.html

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[billvon 3,160]

Good. We spend too much time coddling Israel.

[shah269 0]

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Good. We spend too much time coddling Israel.

Yeah why is that?
Who cares?
They take our money and buy freaking weapons...we subsadize their middle class lives.
I mean...can't we use that money here?

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[jakee 1,637]

What's your problem?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[RonD1120 62]

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Good. We spend too much time coddling Israel.

President Truman, a Democrat, signed a treaty of support to Israel in 1948. Your attitude of disrespect is shameful.

We turn our backs on Israel at our own peril.

BTW, Mr. BHO Jangled's scheduling conflicts are with radio DJ Pimp the Limp and David Letterman. He is a disgrace on the world stage.

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[normiss 910]

What if the Israeli government defaults on that agreement???

[billvon 3,160]

>President Truman, a Democrat, signed a treaty of support to Israel in 1948.

Yep. And we supported them for decades as they got on their feet. They are all grown up now; time to stop treating them like incompetent welfare cases.

>Your attitude of disrespect is shameful.

Given the remarkable amount of disrespect you show to people who disagree with your political or religious views, I won't lose any sleep over your opinion.

>We turn our backs on Israel at our own peril.

Never said "turn our backs" on them. Just treat them like any other nation. Say, Peru.

[kallend 2,201]

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President Truman, a Democrat, signed a treaty of support to Israel in 1948.

The 2012 US budget included $3.075 billion in US military aid for Israel, $75 million more than in fiscal year 2011.

Seems like pretty good support for Israel to me.

Of course, some Tea Partiers want to stop ALL foreign aid.

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[RonD1120 62]

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President Truman, a Democrat, signed a treaty of support to Israel in 1948.

The 2012 US budget included $3.075 billion in US military aid for Israel, $75 million more than in fiscal year 2011.

Seems like pretty good support for Israel to me.

Of course, some Tea Partiers want to stop ALL foreign aid.

I think we are talking about something more than just money. Relationships are not based on money.

We are seeing anti-Semetism from the administration and here in the SC. This is the second snub by our government in the last couple months. This is not good.

I believe the Israelis have a right to exist and to exist in their land.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 3,160]

>I believe the Israelis have a right to exist and to exist in their land.

I do too. And I believe in their right to do so without welfare from the US.

[normiss 910]

This.

Especially given their repeated violations of our agreement with them, which provides ample reason to let it go.

[kallend 2,201]

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President Truman, a Democrat, signed a treaty of support to Israel in 1948.

The 2012 US budget included $3.075 billion in US military aid for Israel, $75 million more than in fiscal year 2011.

Seems like pretty good support for Israel to me.

Of course, some Tea Partiers want to stop ALL foreign aid.

I think we are talking about something more than just money. Relationships are not based on money.

We are seeing anti-Semetism from the administration and here in the SC. This is the second snub by our government in the last couple months. This is not good.

I believe the Israelis have a right to exist and to exist in their land.

First you claim lack of support, and when proven wrong on that you change your position. It is clear that anything Obama does is wrong in your eyes.

For $3.075 billion I'd accept an occasional snub and still say "thank you".

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[Coreece 190]

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We are seeing anti-Semetism from the administration and here in the SC.

I don't know what it is Ron...it might be antisemitism, playing devil's advocate....maybe it's just pure hatred or a preoccupation with opposing anything conservative or christian....Maybe it's just something in their water...or who the hell knows what.

-They support the right to destroy their own progeny yet condemn the execution of convicted madmen.

-They fight for the legalization of drugs because prohibition never works except when it comes to things they don't like, such as guns...

-They're really against bigotry unless it's religious bigotry.

-They'll agree that religious denigration is deplorable and detrimental to society, and then later that day say the faithful are just stupid people who suffer from delusions/hallucinations - and then call YOU the insulting, condescending prick.

-They tend to be supportive of muslims while being apathetic toward jews....why? not because they have any legitimate agrument to do so, but simply because they don't wanna hold hands with conservatives.

If every conservative became pro-choice because they believed abortion could significantly thwart future liberal influence, the liberals would start arguing that abortion is anti-christian.

You can't win with these people...it doesn't even matter if they know they're wrong, because at end of the day, the only thing that is right to them is the inflation of their ego...

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[falxori 0]

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For $3.075 billion I'd accept an occasional snub and still say "thank you". 

The US aid to Egypt is 2B. Im sure you would expect more than burning US flags and breaking into the embassy.

Regardless, i don't buy the "scheduling issues" excuse. It doesn't make sense and its a little insulting

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[Coreece 190]

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Regardless, i don't buy the "scheduling issues" excuse. It doesn't make sense and its a little insulting

Are you saying that Israel is more important than DJ Pimp the Limp Gimp or the Limp Pimp with a Gimp or whatever the hell his name is?!?!

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[sfzombie 3]

i don't think any of them deserve any aid, if you were to add up all the foreign aid we spend and take it out of the budget, that would spell the end of the deficit pretty quickly.

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[DanG 1]

You need to check your numbers. Foreign aid is a small drop in a big bucket.

That being said, if the President of the United States wants to snub a leader of a country the size of New Jersey, that's his fucking perogative. I see nothing wrong with it, especially given Israel's apparent belief that they can dictate US foreign policy.

- Dan G

[kallend 2,201]

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i don't think any of them deserve any aid, if you were to add up all the foreign aid we spend and take it out of the budget, that would spell the end of the deficit pretty quickly.

Not only incorrect, but incorrect by orders of magnitude.

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[kallend 2,201]

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For $3.075 billion I'd accept an occasional snub and still say "thank you". 

The US aid to Egypt is 2B. Im sure you would expect more than burning US flags and breaking into the embassy.

Regardless, i don't buy the "scheduling issues" excuse. It doesn't make sense and its a little insulting

I bet you aren't so insulted as to refuse the $3.075 BILLION.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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You need to check your numbers. Foreign aid is a small drop in a big bucket.

3B is hardly a drop in the bucket. It is 1/1000th of the budget, 0.1% Is your bucket a small cup?

[DanG 1]

Yes, 0.1% is a small drop. The person I was responding to said that cutting foreign aid would allow us to balance the budget in short order. Do you agree that cutting the budget to 99.9% of the current level will result in a balanced budget?

- Dan G

[RonD1120 62]

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We are seeing anti-Semetism from the administration and here in the SC.

I don't know what it is Ron...it might be antisemitism, playing devil's advocate....maybe it's just pure hatred or a preoccupation with opposing anything conservative or christian....Maybe it's just something in their water...or who the hell knows what.

-They support the right to destroy their own progeny yet condemn the execution of convicted madmen.

-They fight for the legalization of drugs because prohibition never works except when it comes to things they don't like, such as guns...

-They're really against bigotry unless it's religious bigotry.

-They'll agree that religious denigration is deplorable and detrimental to society, and then later that day say the faithful are just stupid people who suffer from delusions/hallucinations - and then call YOU the insulting, condescending prick.

-They tend to be supportive of muslims while being apathetic toward jews....why? not because they have any legitimate agrument to do so, but simply because they don't wanna hold hands with conservatives.

If every conservative became pro-choice because they believed abortion could significantly thwart future liberal influence, the liberals would start arguing that abortion is anti-christian.

You can't win with these people...it doesn't even matter if they know they're wrong, because at end of the day, the only thing that is right to them is the inflation of their ego...

I think you have accurately summed up the situation. In order to surrender to God one has to surrender ego. For all of us that have made the decision to follow Him we struggle with the little battles of letting go daily. Those skirmishes follow the greatest battle in the beginning and that is surrender to gain victory. It makes no sense and yet we were compelled to step through that door. It was much like making that first jump. It violates every thing we had learned about survival up to that point but we thought the payoff was going to be worth the risk and it was.

I think back over my years of being with Jesus and I realize how the Holy Spirit guided me at just the right time in just the right way.

In general, He led me to a church fellowship that allowed me to get grounded in the Word as I was grounded in recovery. Once that foundation was stable, He led me to be a servant to others like me. Later, He placed me in Christian fellowship where endtime prophecy was studied and explored.

What I see now is the fulfillment of that prophecy. It is coming and it seems to be coming fast. We are told that we will be hated by the world and that the world will be divided into two armies for the final stand. One army will follow Christ and the other Satan.

We see it developing right before our very eyes, right now, in the Mideast and western Asia and typed out in our SC.

I have always been motivated to participate in cyberspace discussions by my belief that far more lurkers read than responders post.

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Keep your hands on the plow and do not become discouraged. We both have our egos to deal with as well as the others. We just have a slight advantage in that we have already walked through the door.

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[RonD1120 62]

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Regardless, i don't buy the "scheduling issues" excuse. It doesn't make sense and its a little insulting

Are you saying that Israel is more important than DJ Pimp the Limp Gimp or the Limp Pimp with a Gimp or whatever the hell his name is?!?!

And, it gets even more disparaging:

UNREAL… Obama Invites Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood President to Meet Next Week – Refuses to Meet Netanyahu

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/unreal-obama-invites-muslim-brotherhood-egyptian-leader-to-meet-next-week-refuses-to-meet-netanyahu/

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Yes, 0.1% is a small drop. The person I was responding to said that cutting foreign aid would allow us to balance the budget in short order. Do you agree that cutting the budget to 99.9% of the current level will result in a balanced budget?

Total US foreign aid in 2010 was 52.7B. (The 3B I cited was merely for Israel, but was sufficient to the point) 0.1% is not an insignificant amount - would you turn down 3B dollars? Do you think 3M dollars is nothing to think about?

52.7B of 3.55T = 1.48%. And closer to 5% of our current deficit. No, it will not balance the budget as sfzombie suggested. But I suggest you put 67 drops of water into a glass and see how much that actually is. You won't be able to fill a shot glass...so lose the drop in the bucket line which is clearly false.

Now perhaps you'd like to argue that this money is an investment best kept, and instead we should cut 300B out of the defense spending instead.

[jakee 1,637]

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We are seeing anti-Semetism from the administration and here in the SC.

I don't know what it is Ron...it might be antisemitism, playing devil's advocate....maybe it's just pure hatred or a preoccupation with opposing anything conservative or christian....Maybe it's just something in their water...or who the hell knows what.

-They support the right to destroy their own progeny yet condemn the execution of convicted madmen.

-They fight for the legalization of drugs because prohibition never works except when it comes to things they don't like, such as guns...

-They're really against bigotry unless it's religious bigotry.

-They'll agree that religious denigration is deplorable and detrimental to society, and then later that day say the faithful are just stupid people who suffer from delusions/hallucinations - and then call YOU the insulting, condescending prick.

-They tend to be supportive of muslims while being apathetic toward jews....why? not because they have any legitimate agrument to do so, but simply because they don't wanna hold hands with conservatives.

If every conservative became pro-choice because they believed abortion could significantly thwart future liberal influence, the liberals would start arguing that abortion is anti-christian.

You can't win with these people...it doesn't even matter if they know they're wrong, because at end of the day, the only thing that is right to them is the inflation of their ego...

I think you have accurately summed up the situation when viewed through the lens of right-wing paranoia.

There ya go.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?