Clint Eastwood at the GOP Convention

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left wing liberal bias of Wikipedia.

Do you know how Wikipedia works? Wikipedia is not necessarily a source of facts. In fact wikipedia relies on the community to support/edit statements on it. So, if you have a conservative/liberal wiki page - you can be pretty sure it's going to be factually inaccurate, and biased since the community that supports it are going to enable their own agendas. Case in point, your conservapedia link.

Ian

Exactly, regardless of your ideology, you can go to the Internet and find support that suits your point. That is why I pay no attention to poster's facts or data.

The questions that make people real in their comments are, how do you feel? What do you really believe compared to what do you fantasize or think?

I feel anxious and angry with BHO as president.

I believe America is going to be more socialist and less effective in the world if he is re-elected.

I think his foreign policy will strengthen the Muslim Brotherhood and gravely threaten Israel.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[ianmdrennan 2]

The problem with feelings is that they are generally factually inaccurate.

The earth feels flat - it's not.

If you're in an aircraft in IFR conditions you can feel things are happening, that really aren't.



To discount facts because you don't 'feel' they are right is doing yourself, and those around you, a disservice.

Instead I would encourage you to inform yourself, educate yourself, and make rational decisions. While there's a lot of inaccurate info out there, there's also enough credible sources to put the pieces of the puzzle together yourself. You may not always like what you find (especially since it can force introspection and the evaluations of one's belief(s) - not referring to religion here). Once that happens the decision, as always, is to either recognize your error, learn from it and move on OR to bury your head in the sand singing "la la la la, I can't hear you".

Personally I find the latter to be ineffective, as good as it may feel.

Ian

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The problem with feelings is that they are generally factually inaccurate.

The earth feels flat - it's not.

If you're in an aircraft in IFR conditions you can feel things are happening, that really aren't.



To discount facts because you don't 'feel' they are right is doing yourself, and those around you, a disservice.

Instead I would encourage you to inform yourself, educate yourself, and make rational decisions. While there's a lot of inaccurate info out there, there's also enough credible sources to put the pieces of the puzzle together yourself. You may not always like what you find (especially since it can force introspection and the evaluations of one's belief(s) - not referring to religion here). Once that happens the decision, as always, is to either recognize your error, learn from it and move on OR to bury your head in the sand singing "la la la la, I can't hear you".

Personally I find the latter to be ineffective, as good as it may feel.

Ian

I feel anxious and angry with BHO as president.

Unemployment remains above 8%. BHO is a bigger spender than GWB. BHO announced the death of UBL within hours thus neutralizing valuable military intelligence available.

I believe America is going to be more socialist and less effective in the world if he is re-elected.

BHO has to pander to the metropolitan welfare class making the expansion of the federal government benefits a requirement. His advisory staff includes socialists and communists. For the record, Social Security is not a benefit. We paid into that fund. BHO has been discourteous to the Queen of England and the PM of Israel. He has taken a position against Great Britain regarding the Faulkland Islands. He promised the President of Russia more cooperation from the U.S. This comment was made surreptitiously.

I think his foreign policy will strengthen the Muslim Brotherhood and gravely threaten Israel.

BHO has shown reluctance to sanction Iran or provide support to the freedom fighters in Syria. BHO embraced the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. BHO does not hold Israel in high regard. His position denigrates the treaty and support guaranteed by President Harry Truman.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Obama was marketed by his media pals to be "The messiah, the savior of humanity, the great uniter of the human race complete with his Nobel Peace Prize".

Only in your mind.

- Dan G

[DanG 1]

You are the personification of the character Stephen Colbert plays every night. I thought that character was a caricature, but apparently it's an accurate portait of todays conservative.

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BHO announced the death of UBL within hours thus neutralizing valuable military intelligence available.

You've got to be joking. Do you think the Pakistanis were keeping quiet about it?

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BHO has shown reluctance to sanction Iran or provide support to the freedom fighters in Syria.

What?!? The sanctions against Iran are the strongest they've ever been. And right now no one, except France which I assume you abhor, is providing support to the freedom fighters in Syria. Obama got shit for the very limited support he provided in Libya, including suggestions he be impeached. And now you want him to do the same thing in Syria? Get your story straight.

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BHO embraced the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

No he hasn't.

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BHO does not hold Israel in high regard. His position denigrates the treaty and support guaranteed by President Harry Truman.

He hasn't done anything but support Israel. Support does not mean refusing to question them, especially when their actions break the same treaties you seem to hold so dear.

- Dan G

[RonD1120 62]

We live in separate realities. My world receives different input than yours. And, you have no understanding of the value of military intelligence. You were guessing on that one.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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And, you have no understanding of the value of military intelligence.

And you do?

- Dan G

[RonD1120 62]

This just in.

http://www.debka.com/article/22326/Slashed-US-military-input-shortens-Israel%E2%80%99s-notice-of-Iranian-missile-launch

US and Israeli defense chiefs far apart.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are silent in the face of the avalanche of bad news coming in from official Washington.

And regarding military intelligence, yes, yes I do.

ETA: Also, http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4368724#4368724

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Skyrad 0]

I think it shows the lamentable political poverty in US politics. Unfortunately UK political parties are heading the same way.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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Obama was marketed by his media pals to be "The messiah, the savior of humanity, the great uniter of the human race complete with his Nobel Peace Prize".

Only in your mind.

Interesting you should say that. I did NOT write this article (fast forward to his first point):

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/09/04/kelly-mcparland-where-obama-went-wrong/

So when a very much Liberal leaning columnist thinks many people viewed Obama as a messiah, if a Liberal leaning columnist points out the irrational behavior of the Nobel committee for awarding Obama a Nobel Peace Prize for merely existing, I think this is more than "just in my mind".

Should Romney go on to win and should Romney go on to be just as bad as Obama, trust me in 2016 I will be calling for his removal as well.

PS: I just violated one of my own "recent" rules I have for my new work ethics and that is "Do not post messages on the DorkZone while at work". So I will now crawl back under the rock from which I came and do some work my employer pays me to do. So don't expect to see me around here today to debate what this ever so Liberal columnist wrote. But I will check back this evening to see all the PAs that have been directed at me for not worshiping his holyness.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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the facts are often skewered to a liberals advantage.

YES, using FACTS instead of fabrications generally does give an advantage to liberals.

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We live in separate realities. My world receives different input than yours.

Right, you have invisible friends, and admit to having fried your brain with chemicals.

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>the facts are often skewered to a liberals advantage.

Didn't you just get done telling us that people don't care about "esoteric" facts like numbers? (Also I'd tend to not believe stories about political statistics if the writer cannot spell the word "skewed." It's like someone arguing against religion who can't spell "theology.")

But in any case there are two possible explanations:

1) Politifacts is skewed

2) The GOP says things that aren't true more often

And given only the tendency for the GOP to disbelieve things like evolution and atmospheric science - and their tendency to go on about birth certificates and UN conspiracies - I would expect them to state mistruths more often.

>"Due to their fake non-partisanship, non-biased stance and their use of Democrats as
>fact checkers, results are not trustworthy." http://www.conservapedia.com/PolitiFact

Did you actually just use a website called "conservapedia" to claim a liberal bias?

Here, let me find a site called "www.RomneySucks.org" to prove you wrong . . .

>However, most people are not satisfied with BHO, they are worried, they feel
>divided and simply do not feel or believe we are better off.

Obama's approval rating: 53%. Thus more than half of Americans approve of the job he is doing.

(Romney's popularity ratings for comparison - 40% positive, 49% negative)

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And regarding military intelligence, yes, yes I do.

I'm sure you're quite the expert. It always makes me laugh when posters with military experience assume they are the only one who ever put on a uniform.

What, prey tell, would have been gained by denying the raid on bin Laden's compound when everyone in the world knew about it from non-US sources?

- Dan G

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We live in separate realities. My world receives different input than yours.

Right, you have invisible friends, and admit to having fried your brain with chemicals.

I love reading your trite insults. It shows me that you have nothing to offer and I have the power to get your goat.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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We live in separate realities. My world receives different input than yours.

Right, you have invisible friends, and admit to having fried your brain with chemicals.

I love reading your trite insults. It shows me that you have nothing to offer and I have the power to get your goat.

So your analytical ability is impaired too.

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[RonD1120 62]

You and kallend both responded too soon. Had you read further in my discussion with ianmdrennan you would have seen that I dealt with your objections as the typical use of the Internet.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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We live in separate realities. My world receives different input than yours.

Right, you have invisible friends, and admit to having fried your brain with chemicals.

I love reading your trite insults. It shows me that you have nothing to offer and I have the power to get your goat.

So your analytical ability is impaired too.

Not when it comes to your posts, they are very much on the surface, no depth of meaning to analyze. You are easy.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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We live in separate realities. My world receives different input than yours.

Right, you have invisible friends, and admit to having fried your brain with chemicals.

I love reading your trite insults. It shows me that you have nothing to offer and I have the power to get your goat.

So your analytical ability is impaired too.

Not when it comes to your posts, they are very much on the service, no depth of meaning to analyze. You are easy.

QED.

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[RonD1120 62]

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And regarding military intelligence, yes, yes I do.

I'm sure you're quite the expert. It always makes me laugh when posters with military experience assume they are the only one who ever put on a uniform.

What, prey tell, would have been gained by denying the raid on bin Laden's compound when everyone in the world knew about it from non-US sources?

And that is what is known as need to know only.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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And that is what is known as need to know only.

Give me a break. You served in Vietnam, and for that I thank you. But since then you've been a hippie drug addict and substance abuse counselor. If there is anyone who doesn't need to know, it is you.

It's obvious you are blowing smoke. There was nothing lost by Obama announcing the results of the bin Laden raid. There were also no essential TTP revealed in subsequent interviews about the raid. The former Special Operations guys bitching about the loss of security from public discussion about the raid are full of shit and anyone even remotely connected to the community knows it.

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And that is what is known as need to know only.

Give me a break. You served in Vietnam, and for that I thank you. But since then you've been a hippie drug addict and substance abuse counselor. If there is anyone who doesn't need to know, it is you.

It's obvious you are blowing smoke. There was nothing lost by Obama announcing the results of the bin Laden raid. There were also no essential TTP revealed in subsequent interviews about the raid. The former Special Operations guys bitching about the loss of security from public discussion about the raid are full of shit and anyone even remotely connected to the community knows it.

It was me I was referring to. Your personalization of my post is somewhat indicative of ego centric importance.

Military strategists say valuable intelligence was lost. I accept their position.

BTW, I was not a hippie. I was a counter culturalist who became an alcoholic. And, I am a Vietnam era vet.

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And that is what is known as need to know only.

Give me a break. You served in Vietnam, and for that I thank you. But since then you've been a hippie drug addict and substance abuse counselor. If there is anyone who doesn't need to know, it is you.

It's obvious you are blowing smoke. There was nothing lost by Obama announcing the results of the bin Laden raid. There were also no essential TTP revealed in subsequent interviews about the raid. The former Special Operations guys bitching about the loss of security from public discussion about the raid are full of shit and anyone even remotely connected to the community knows it.

It was me I was referring to. Your personalization of my post is somewhat indicative of ego centric importance.

Military strategists say valuable intelligence was lost. I accept their position.

BTW, I was not a hippie. I was a counter culturalist who became an alcoholic. And, I am a Vietnam era vet.

What military strategists? And what valuable intelligence? Can you quote any believable articles to that fact?

The cover was blown by the Pakistani press when they showed the US spec-ops helicopter draped over the fence.

And even if there hadn't been that to show, it would have been pretty clear, based on the fact that a small group of soldiers conducted a middle of the night raid on the compound using high level skills and equipment, that a major power was behind it.

And the Russians, Brits or Israelis didn't want OBL that bad. We did.

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And that is what is known as need to know only.

Give me a break. You served in Vietnam, and for that I thank you. But since then you've been a hippie drug addict and substance abuse counselor. If there is anyone who doesn't need to know, it is you.

It's obvious you are blowing smoke. There was nothing lost by Obama announcing the results of the bin Laden raid. There were also no essential TTP revealed in subsequent interviews about the raid. The former Special Operations guys bitching about the loss of security from public discussion about the raid are full of shit and anyone even remotely connected to the community knows it.

It was me I was referring to. Your personalization of my post is somewhat indicative of ego centric importance.

Military strategists say valuable intelligence was lost. I accept their position.

BTW, I was not a hippie. I was a counter culturalist who became an alcoholic. And, I am a Vietnam era vet.

What military strategists? And what valuable intelligence? Can you quote any believable articles to that fact?

The cover was blown by the Pakistani press when they showed the US spec-ops helicopter draped over the fence.

And even if there hadn't been that to show, it would have been pretty clear, based on the fact that a small group of soldiers conducted a middle of the night raid on the compound using high level skills and equipment, that a major power was behind it.

And the Russians, Brits or Israelis didn't want OBL that bad. We did.

Don't expect a rational analysis from Ron - he has already told us that facts don't enter into his worldview.

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[RonD1120 62]

See kallend's response above.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.