So now that it's over why did we do it?

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I consider our invasion of Iraq to be an heroic effort to validate my observation that our only limitless resource is stupidity.

That is about the only thing we could have hoped to achieve in the endeavor, and I think said goal was accomplished with flying colors.

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Yeah! See this is the magic of this argument!
The GOPers think the rest of us forgot all about all of that "March of freedom, either with us or against" us crap they were spewing.

So it's like walking up and drop kicking an annoying quadriplegic kid who thinks he knows everything about physics!
Sure it's wrong and you know you shouldn't do it....but the bitch is so annoying!

So go on its hump day you are bored to tears at work. Have fun! Find that GOPers who put that stupid ribbon on her desk, chair, car, bike, hat and most likely his toilet seat and high fived himself watching Faux news. And make him get pissed off and go sit back down.

I assure you it will be fun and you will feel so much better about yourself!

Here is how mine went;
Shah "Hey remember when you were all gung ho about liberating Iraq because of WMD's and Al-Qaida?"

Goper Engineer "yeah!"

Shah "So why did we do that again? WE didn't find any of those things there did we?"

Goper Engineer "aah for freedom!"

Shah "Yeah I think Jesus Bush ran in there to try and increase his testicular mass and one up his father who was the war hero."

Goper Engineer (now a nice shade of red) "Yeah well Obama didn't show his birth certificate!"

Shah "Yeah, he just had a copy. But how about those tax records from Romeney?"

Goper Engineer (Red as a tomato with veins sticking out of his neck!) "Yeah well you are a poopy head!"

Shah "Yeah a poopy head..."

God I feel better! Like a god!

Thank you God for making me an Englishman.

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We just annoy the liberals by reminding them that nearly every Democrat voted to go to war. We remind them of Hillary Clinton giving a speech and claiming Saddam had WMD's. Then we remind them that Bill Clinton, Sandy Berger and nearly every Democrat in the Clinton Administration and in Congress thought Iraq had WMD's.

Hmm, well if it wasn't a political move then the Intelligence was piss poor. As G H Bush was formerly head of the CIA maybe junior was more like his Dad than he has been given credit for.

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if we give you an AK, to protect yourself, then years later you turn around and try to hurt us, are we not justified in responding?

Except Iraq did not try to hurt you, nor did it have the capacity to do so when the decision was made to invade.

The decision was based on faulty intelligence. The question remains if the intelligence was deliberately faulty or if people were incompetent.

I vote both. We know that in the UK Tony Blair ordered the 'intelligence' 'sexed up' in order to sell the war to the public, that is a matter of public record.

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Hmm, well if it wasn't a political move then the Intelligence was piss poor. As G H Bush was formerly head of the CIA maybe junior was more like his Dad than he has been given credit for.

Not sure what you are saying here.

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if we give you an AK, to protect yourself, then years later you turn around and try to hurt us, are we not justified in responding?

Except Iraq did not try to hurt you, nor did it have the capacity to do so when the decision was made to invade.

The decision was based on faulty intelligence. The question remains if the intelligence was deliberately faulty or if people were incompetent.

I vote both. We know that in the UK Tony Blair ordered the 'intelligence' 'sexed up' in order to sell the war to the public, that is a matter of public record.

Did you read what Colin Powell wrote about his role in presenting the "intelligence" to the UN? Pretty damning stuff for the Bush administration.

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I consider our invasion of Iraq to be an heroic effort to validate my observation that our only limitless resource is stupidity.

That is about the only thing we could have hoped to achieve in the endeavor, and I think said goal was accomplished with flying colors.

Don't knock stupidity - whole industries rely on it for their existence.

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I did, he wasn't a happy bunny.

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I thought you were claiming the chemical weapons had degraded to the point they were no longer dangerous 9 years ago. If that was true, why do the people handling their destruction today need special training on how to handle them safely. Wouldn't the be even more degraded now?

Degraded to the point that they are no longer suitable for use as weapons does not imply special precautions should not be taken as they are destroyed.

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I thought you were claiming the chemical weapons had degraded to the point they were no longer dangerous 9 years ago. If that was true, why do the people handling their destruction today need special training on how to handle them safely. Wouldn't the be even more degraded now?

Degraded to the point that they are no longer suitable for use as weapons does not imply special precautions should not be taken as they are destroyed.

Correct. Just about anything, even something as mundane as a pile of used batteries needs special precautions when being disposed of.

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The decision was based on faulty intelligence. The question remains if the intelligence was deliberately faulty or if people were incompetent.

Incompetent. IIRC, the intelligence was skimpy, sketchy, thin, unreliable, whatever. But Bush had a clear bias in what he was hoping to hear, so bought the weakest BS hook, line, and sinker. It's just so damn unfortunate that our electoral processes are no longer capable of providing us with intelligent, centrist, objective thinkers.

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The decision was based on faulty intelligence. The question remains if the intelligence was deliberately faulty or if people were incompetent.

Incompetent. IIRC, the intelligence was skimpy, sketchy, thin, unreliable, whatever. But Bush had a clear bias in what he was hoping to hear, so bought the weakest BS hook, line, and sinker. It's just so damn unfortunate that our electoral processes are no longer capable of providing us with intelligent, centrist, objective thinkers.

I'm not convinced GWB was the evil here. I have a tendancy to believe he was duped by the members of the PNAC that made up his staff. When you look into it and at it that way it's far easier to understand as how it was possible.

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