Tennessee Republican Primary Candidates Wage Anti-Islam Contest

[jclalor 12]

It's funny how all the Tea Baggers, while wrapped in the constitution, get their panties all in a twist when it comes to gun control yet they have no problem blatantly denying others their rights.

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"I will work to stop the Islamization of our society, and do everything possible to prevent Sharia law from circumventing our laws and our Constitution," Zelenik said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/tennessee-republican-primary_n_1731206.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

[billvon 3,132]

Perhaps they could have an "eat-in" at a local fast food place to protest free expression of religion.

[DanG 1]

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[airdvr 210]

So you think it's OK to circumvent the Constitution with Sharia Law?

Please don't dent the planet.

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[DanG 1]

If two parties sign a contract to conduct a business dealing in accordance with Sharia law, how are they circumventing the Constitution?

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[airdvr 210]

Question stands...

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[kallend 2,182]

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Question stands...

Question is moot in the context of this thread.

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[airdvr 210]

Did you guys go to Fred Astaire to learn that 2-step dance?

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[billvon 3,132]

>So you think it's OK to circumvent the Constitution with Sharia Law?

Nope, it's never OK. But you can agree to use Sharia rules in your business dealings - just like you can agree to use NFL rules when playing a football game or USPA rules when opening a DZ. None of those things "circumvent" the Constitution.

[airdvr 210]

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and do everything possible to prevent Sharia law from circumventing our laws and our Constitution

What's the problem again?

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[billvon 3,132]

>What's the problem again?

"I will work to stop extreme sports from damaging our society, and do everything possible to prevent USPA BSR's from circumventing our laws and our Constitution."

If he said that, I'd think that guy was sorta anti-USPA - and by extension anti-skydiver.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Make sure to add bacon to everything.

Fast Food started added bacon to everything a decade or so back when pork prices were low. Was that when all the trouble started?

[ryoder 1,590]

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"I will work to stop the Islamization of our society, and do everything possible to prevent Sharia law from circumventing our laws and our Constitution," Zelenik said.

Translation: "I will whip up the constituency over non-existent threats to further my political ambitions."

The hysteria over Sharia law is ridiculous. Unless it is enacted by our legislators and put into US law, it has no effect on us.

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[DaVinci 0]

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It's funny how all the Tea Baggers, while wrapped in the constitution, get their panties all in a twist when it comes to gun control yet they have no problem blatantly denying others their rights.

And yet you would not get up in arms if someone had said:
"I will work to stop the Christianization of our society, and do everything possible to prevent Christian based law from circumventing our laws and our Constitution,"

I personally would not support sharia law, or any other religion based law.

[kelpdiver 2]

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It's funny how all the Tea Baggers, while wrapped in the constitution, get their panties all in a twist when it comes to gun control yet they have no problem blatantly denying others their rights.

And yet you would not get up in arms if someone had said:
"I will work to stop the Christianization of our society, and do everything possible to prevent Christian based law from circumventing our laws and our Constitution,"

I personally would not support sharia law, or any other religion based law.

The laws against gay marriage are an example of religion based laws.

I've yet to see Islamic religion interfere in American life....but the Christian churches are constantly at it, as well as in the school systems banning books like Huck Finn or Harry Potter.

[DaVinci 0]

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The laws against gay marriage are an example of religion based laws.

Show where I support them.

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I've yet to see Islamic religion interfere in American life

9/11 ring a bell?

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but the Christian churches are constantly at it, as well as in the school systems banning books like Huck Finn or Harry Potter.

Show where I support the Christin church, or book bans.

[kelpdiver 2]

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The laws against gay marriage are an example of religion based laws.

Show where I support them.

I make no such claim. I only address your assertion of hypocrisy in the previous post that people object more to Christianity than Islam, presumably out of some PC thing where Islam is cooler than Jesus.

No, it's because the Christians keep interfering in our lives. And if your counter to that is 9/11, a terrorist act, then I'll give you Oklahoma City in return.

Orthodox Muslims may decide to live their lives by Sharia law, and buy houses only in approved methods, but I haven't seen them propose laws insisting I do the same, or not eat pork.

[DaVinci 0]

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I make no such claim. I only address your assertion of hypocrisy in the previous post that people object more to Christianity than Islam, presumably out of some PC thing where Islam is cooler than Jesus.

When did I say "the people"??? I said him. Are you speaking for him now?

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No, it's because the Christians keep interfering in our lives. And if your counter to that is 9/11, a terrorist act, then I'll give you Oklahoma City in return.

Great, but your claim was, "I've yet to see Islamic religion interfere in American life"....And to that, I'd say 9/11 was interference. You will also note, but may not admit, that I never said Christianity does not interfere. So your OKC example is moot.

[billvon 3,132]

>I personally would not support sharia law, or any other religion based law.

Do you refuse to work at places that shut down on the Sabbath?

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>So you think it's OK to circumvent the Constitution with Sharia Law?

Nope, it's never OK. But you can agree to use Sharia rules in your business dealings - just like you can agree to use NFL rules when playing a football game or USPA rules when opening a DZ. None of those things "circumvent" the Constitution.

I think more appropriate examples would be "Is O.K. for one Muslim to cut off the hand of another Muslim if he got caught stealing from him?"

Or maybe in a pre-nuptual it states "If the wife is accused of adultery by two males of the husbands family, the husband gets to bury her up to her neck and throw stones at her head until she is dead," is that OK?

Both are common practices in sharia law.

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[billvon 3,132]

>"Is O.K. for one Muslim to cut off the hand of another Muslim if he got caught stealing from him?"

Good example. No, it's not OK; that's a crime. (Just like it's not OK to kill homosexuals even if the Bible commands people to do that.)

>Or maybe in a pre-nuptual it states "If the wife is accused of adultery by two males of
>the husbands family, the husband gets to bury her up to her neck and throw stones at
>her head until she is dead," is that OK?

Nope, that's not OK either. That's murder.

Now let's use another example. Let's say that in your will, you want to leave a third of your estate to your best friend who supported and your family you throughout your life. (The concept of wasiyya, or bequests.) Should a US judge void that part of your will because it is part of Sharia law?

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Now let's use another example. Let's say that in your will, you want to leave a third of your estate to your best friend who supported and your family you throughout your life. (The concept of wasiyya, or bequests.) Should a US judge void that part of your will because it is part of Sharia law?

No, the use of Sharia Law in those instances are acceptable.

So it seems we are in agreement. The use of Sharia Law is OK in civil matters amongst Muslims as long as it doesn't conflict with current U.S. laws, Values or the Constitution.

Was that difficult?

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[DaVinci 0]

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>I personally would not support sharia law, or any other religion based law.

Do you refuse to work at places that shut down on the Sabbath?

So many problems with your argument:

1. Which Sabbath? Shabbat? First-day Sabbath? Seventh-Day Sabbath?

2. A Company does not make law. It is a company practice.

3. Being non-religious, I do not participate in a sabbath... Although I do recognize YOUR right to recognize one or participate in one.... Same as I recognize Chick-Fil-A's right to close on Sunday.

But to answer your question..... I have worked most of my adult life at Companies that are open both Saturday and Sunday.

[billvon 3,132]

>No, the use of Sharia Law in those instances are acceptable.

Cool, sounds like we agree.

[jgoose71 0]

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>No, the use of Sharia Law in those instances are acceptable.

Cool, sounds like we agree.

Great, now if you would, please tell jcalor that I am not a hate filled bigot just because I associate with the tea party.

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