jcd11235 0 #101 August 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteJust that a lot of people think that marriage, as it originally was conducted over the last several thousand years should be protected in the process.... It can be done. Same sex marriages date back thousands of years. If you are going to make a statement like that, please elaborate with references please to enlighten the rest of us.... While gay couples have been around and even well documented (especially during the roman empire) I do not know much about the history of gay marriage..... Start here. Dude, I thought you were going to show me something new. Yes, I already new that same sex unions have been around forever. However, they are not the same as marraige nor have they ever had the same status. Why you ask? It all comes down to legacy. If a ruler wants to have kids, he had to have sex with a woman... in her vagina.... plane and simple. If he didn't, his legacy died with him. No way around the family. Sorry. Lots of rulers then and now have wives for show, but only sleep with them to produce heirs, and then send them back to their sad lonely neglected existence, (See Ruler of Oman, today), but that marriage is more legitimate than all his boy toys. This is also the argument to protect the sanctity of marriage. Now today, we have sperm donors, egg donors, surrogate parents, and a bunch of other crap. My position has always been that same sex unions should not be called marriage. They need to be called something else so we can establish laws to protect the children of these unions. It has been well established that when the gay "parents" of the child break up, unless there was paperwork establishing what happens next, typically the government goes after the good Samaritan that agreed to help the couple out. It's not right. the couple wanted the kid, they should be responsible. The rules need to catch up with the times. And if you continue to try to call same sex unions "marriage" and apply all the same rules, you are going to fuck over a lot of children and good samaritans, while "Parents" walk away from there kids scott free. Apparently you never read the article to which I linked, nor did you use it as a starting point, i.e., bibliography, as I suggested. Same sex marriages, not just unions, have been around for thousands of years.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #102 August 4, 2012 Gay-marriage did exist in the Roman Empire to the point that some of the Roman emperors were in one [period] Nero, for example, married his male lover, and Christians later explicitly outlawed same-sex marriage. You're just regurgitating Christian revisionism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #103 August 4, 2012 I can eat fried chicken and at the same time watch chicks giving each other tongue? There Just may be a God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #104 August 4, 2012 QuoteI can eat fried chicken and at the same time watch chicks giving each other tongue? There Just may be a God. I think rehmwa had a point when he wrote this: Quotetoo bad, in real life, watching any two average people kissing is likely equivalent in voyeuristic fun as watching a walrus trying to climb over a rock - and probably just as sexy. Unlike what our healthy imaginations wish it was like If you go, I hope you like walruses physical love is seldom an attractive scene for a third party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #105 August 4, 2012 QuoteQuote***I can eat fried chicken and at the same time watch chicks giving each other tongue? There Just may be a God. I think rehmwa had a point when he wrote this: Quotetoo bad, in real life, watching any two average people kissing is likely equivalent in voyeuristic fun as watching a walrus trying to climb over a rock - and probably just as sexy. Unlike what our healthy imaginations wish it was like If you go, I hope you like walruses physical love is seldom an attractive scene for a third party. I think you're right, not to mention any possible jollies derived by seeing one pair of kissing girls would be instantaneously squashed by the ten pair of kissing guys that would be next to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #106 August 4, 2012 Now I feel bad for squashing your dream. Here some good old-fashioned staged female on female lip action. http://vanfullofcandy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/girls_kissing3.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #107 August 4, 2012 QuoteEven as young children we sense something wrong with depraved sexual acts such as masturbation and molestation, yet alone (pardon my french) buttfucking. Masturbation isn't depraved. There are heterosexual molesters, too. Anal sex is common among heterosexual couples. Further, many gay couples do not practice anal sex. If one subscribed to the idea of intelligent design/creationism, it would be pretty obvious by the male prostate's location and response to stimulus that males were "designed" to receive anal sex.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #108 August 4, 2012 QuoteFurther, many gay couples do not practice anal sex. Like who, lesbians?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #109 August 4, 2012 QuoteWe should have fed them all to the lions I guess. Well, If it wasn't for science and all it's medications and prophylactics, I'd argue that the gay community would've died off by now...no wonder science is your God.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #110 August 4, 2012 Quote Quote We should have fed them all to the lions I guess. Well, If it wasn't for science and all it's medications and prophylactics, I'd argue that the gay community would've died off by now...no wonder science is your God. Not as long as hetero couples keep having gay kids."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #111 August 4, 2012 Quote Quote Quote We should have fed them all to the lions I guess. Well, If it wasn't for science and all it's medications and prophylactics, I'd argue that the gay community would've died off by now...no wonder science is your God. Not as long as hetero couples keep having gay kids. Yep, in the closet living in shame...where they belong, much like myself until I overcome this world and carnal depravity.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #112 August 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteFurther, many gay couples do not practice anal sex. Like who, lesbians? Apparently you've been watching too much gay porn. In reality, many gay men aren't interested in anal sex, as tops or bottoms.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #113 August 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteWe should have fed them all to the lions I guess. Well, If it wasn't for science and all it's medications and prophylactics, I'd argue that the gay community would've died off by now...no wonder science is your God. Doubtful. I read a about a study recently that found that the female relatives of gay men tend to be more fertile than average.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #114 August 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteFurther, many gay couples do not practice anal sex. Like who, lesbians? Apparently you've been watching too much gay porn. In reality, many gay men aren't interested in anal sex, as tops or bottoms. News to me...interesting. Are they christian?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #115 August 4, 2012 yep, and gay men tend to have bigger penises.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #116 August 4, 2012 QuoteAre they christian? There are certainly christians among the LGBT community. Just because they're gay doesn't mean that they've embraced logic and reason.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #117 August 4, 2012 Quoteyep, and gay men tend to have bigger penises. I'll have to take your word for that. As a straight male, I'm not in the habit of checking out the penises of other men.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #118 August 4, 2012 Homosensual penises are slightly larger than straight cocks. But we throw balls like girls and drive like old ladies to compensate for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #119 August 4, 2012 QuoteThere are certainly christians among the LGBT community. I know... "Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men[ u]who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you...."Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #120 August 4, 2012 Well I thought you were a man who finds truth in statistics... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #121 August 4, 2012 Quote Homosensual penises are slightly larger than straight cocks. But we throw balls like girls and drive like old ladies to compensate for that. I was thinking of coming your way across the pond soon...I can teach you baseball.Maybe I can stay over there for awhile? I think we'll have a blast, if it's anything like our exchanges here in SC...you get it - it's all about entertainment, bud.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #122 August 4, 2012 You know Paul was a closet case, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #123 August 4, 2012 Quote You know Paul was a closet case, right? Was that his "thorn in the side?"I see a lot of me in you...and I don't mean that in a gay way.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #124 August 4, 2012 QuoteWell I thought you were a man who finds truth in statistics... I find data analysis more interesting than data collection.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #125 August 5, 2012 QuoteYep, in the closet living in shame...where they belong, much like myself until I overcome this world and carnal depravity. Don't look now, but you just came out to SC.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites