kallend 2,182 #26 August 1, 2012 QuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #27 August 1, 2012 So I guess the idea of raising taxes is only valid if you agree with it? In one thread you rail against the luncay of tax cuts, and on the very same day have a problem with a plan that increases taxes. And you think Mitt has a problem staying on point?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #28 August 1, 2012 QuoteSo I guess the idea of raising taxes is only valid if you agree with it? In one thread you rail against the luncay of tax cuts, and on the very same day have a problem with a plan that increases taxes. And you think Mitt has a problem staying on point? Nice Lame attempt at spin. Mitt's program decreases revenues, decreases taxes on the very rich, and increases taxes on the middle class.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #29 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. Cite?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #30 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. Cite?? You really need a "cite" to confirm that everyone includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized? Have you been taking lessons from rushmc or mnealtx?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #31 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. odd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #32 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. odd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Awwww... Did you have to point out the obvious? I was going to have some fun with him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #33 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. odd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Not a problem IF expressed as a percentage. However, it wasn't.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #34 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. odd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Awwww... Did you have to point out the obvious? I was going to have some fun with him. LAME attempt at weaseling out of your mistake. You wrote "more taxes", not "higher percentage".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #35 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. odd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Awwww... Did you have to point out the obvious? I was going to have some fun with him. LAME attempt at weaseling out of your mistake. You wrote "more taxes", not "higher percentage". Same thing. But please feel free to try and weasel out of stating babies etc. pay any taxes at all. Higher percentage or otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #36 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat part of QuoteAnyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. odd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Awwww... Did you have to point out the obvious? I was going to have some fun with him. LAME attempt at weaseling out of your mistake. You wrote "more taxes", not "higher percentage". Same thing. But please feel free to try and weasel out of stating babies etc. pay any taxes at all. Higher percentage or otherwise. Ever think of taking a math class? 0 + 1 = 1 (your proposal for more taxes) 0 x any% = 0 (rehmwa's suggestion re: percentages) Don't be a weasel.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #37 August 1, 2012 QuoteThis is great news. The 49% that are freeloaders need to start paying their fair share. there's not a lot of money there - even if you got all of them paying, it wouldn't come remote close to matching the tax cuts at the high end. And since we're already not covering our bills for the essentials on SS and Defense, that means those in the middle will be paying substantially more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 August 1, 2012 Hey John. Is this the non-partisan report your link refers too? If so, this reminds me of how fast you wanted to post the Romeny is a gay bashing bully threadhttp://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-cites-independent-non-partisan-study-written-former-staffer_649193.html "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #39 August 1, 2012 QuoteEver think of taking a math class? 0 + 1 = 1 (your proposal for more taxes) 0 x any% = 0 (rehmwa's suggestion re: percentages) Don't be a weasel. well, I'm not a big fan of anyone paying 0% either, but this is where we start. Not much to collect there, but if everyone did pay in even a token amount as a minimum, then maybe the population would be more inclined to vote for leaders with better money management skills for that matter - If I pay zero, I'm still inclined to require others to pay more so that I can leverage their increases to even more benefits or entitlements for me. So I don't back off on the pressure just because I hit zero. I get to go for the next step. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #40 August 1, 2012 Quoteodd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Who says the terminally ill have zero dollar incomes? Who says the permanently hospitalized have zero incomes? Who says the aged have zero dollar incomes? The point is that many of these live right on the line of bare existence. A percentage or absolute increase cannot be born by them. Clearly the everyone that Gravitymaster speaks of is completely undoable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #41 August 1, 2012 Quotefor that matter - If I pay zero, I'm still inclined to require others to pay more so that I can leverage their increases to even more benefits or entitlements for me. So I don't back off on the pressure just because I hit zero. I get to go for the next step. Many people who pay zero tax are struggling to survive every day. They likely don't know what leverage means, never mind using it in a macro sense as you describe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #42 August 1, 2012 Quote Hey John. Is this the non-partisan report your link refers too? If so, this reminds me of how fast you wanted to post the Romeny is a gay bashing bully threadhttp://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-cites-independent-non-partisan-study-written-former-staffer_649193.html Do your homework FOR A CHANGE. His co-author was Senior Staff Economist, President's Council of Economic Advisers (1991-92) for G.H.W. Bush (R) ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #43 August 1, 2012 QuoteThey likely don't know what leverage means, never mind using it in a macro sense as you describe. In a theoretical sense? sure. But in a "I would really like to have a few more government benefits to help me out, and why can't the rich just pay a little more for those too" sense? I think just about anyone can figure that out when a candidate is proposing new and even better programs that will be FREE from the government - it's just "Obama-money" to reference a popular example. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #44 August 1, 2012 QuoteQuoteodd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Who says the terminally ill have zero dollar incomes? Who says the permanently hospitalized have zero incomes? Who says the aged have zero dollar incomes? The point is that many of these live right on the line of bare existence. A percentage or absolute increase cannot be born by them. Clearly the everyone that Gravitymaster speaks of is completely undoable. If they are that ill and that broke, they have such huge deductions they aren't paying much in taxes anyway. If they have a lot of money, why should they be exempt from increases if they can afford to pay more? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #45 August 1, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote What part of Quote Anyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. odd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Awwww... Did you have to point out the obvious? I was going to have some fun with him. LAME attempt at weaseling out of your mistake. You wrote "more taxes", not "higher percentage". Same thing. But please feel free to try and weasel out of stating babies etc. pay any taxes at all. Higher percentage or otherwise. Ever think of taking a math class? 0 + 1 = 1 (your proposal for more taxes) 0 x any% = 0 (rehmwa's suggestion re: percentages) Don't be a weasel. Last I checked, babies weren't required to pay taxes. Give it up Prof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #46 August 1, 2012 >> You wrote "more taxes", not "higher percentage". >Same thing. So penalty = taxes. Being a CEO != being an operating officer of a company. More taxes = higher percentage of taxes. You need some kind of glossary in your sig so people can decode your posts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #47 August 1, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote What part of Quote Anyone who thinks it isn't going to require everyone to start paying more taxes is as delusional as the ones who think it should all be laid on the backs of the job creaters. did everyone have a problem understanding? Apparently you do. "Everyone" includes babies, the terminally ill, the aged, the indigent, prisoners, the permanently hospitalized, and many others who are unable for a variety of reasons to support themselves. odd, they can't also pay a straight percent of the zero dollars they made this year? shouldn't be a huge burden Awwww... Did you have to point out the obvious? I was going to have some fun with him. LAME attempt at weaseling out of your mistake. You wrote "more taxes", not "higher percentage". Same thing. But please feel free to try and weasel out of stating babies etc. pay any taxes at all. Higher percentage or otherwise. Ever think of taking a math class? 0 + 1 = 1 (your proposal for more taxes) 0 x any% = 0 (rehmwa's suggestion re: percentages) Don't be a weasel. Last I checked, babies weren't required to pay taxes. Give it up Prof. Yes at some point trying to educate the innumerate is a losing battle, but I did my best.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #48 August 2, 2012 QuoteIf they are that ill and that broke, they have such huge deductions they aren't paying much in taxes anyway. So now we went from no taxes, to some taxes. Which also means an increase in tax payments either under % or absolute increases. QuoteIf they have a lot of money And then you extend your argument to those with lots of money. Maybe you can come back after dance practice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #49 August 2, 2012 QuoteYou wrote "more taxes", not "higher percentage". Same thing. False.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
