Shotgun 1 #226 August 11, 2012 Quote But I wouldn't really mind having the right to vote against webster changing/adding definitions. You can "vote" by not buying their product. Or you could even publish your own dictionary to compete against them. I think that most companies that publish dictionaries have to add/change definitions as the definitions change in society. For example, last year Webster updated the definition of "cougar," but no one seems too upset about that. They're actually behind the times in updating their definition of marriage, as same-sex marriage has existed for a long time. I have a cultural anthropology book that, in my opinion, has a more accurate (and less ethnocentric) definition of "marriage": "A culturally sanctioned union between two or more people that establishes certain rights and obligations between the people, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #227 August 11, 2012 Quote last year Webster updated the definition of "cougar," but no one seems too upset about that. smart ass...(...and I'd comment further, but I promised to stop.) Quote between them and their children But as for gays, it will never really be their own children...the kids will always wonder about the biological contributor(s)...and this certainly affects one's life, no matter how good they've had it. ...and yes, I'm sensitive to this issue as I know it relates to you, and myself as well...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #228 August 11, 2012 Quote..and yes, I'm sensitive to this issue as I know it relates to you, and myself as well... actually...I'm sorry, I think I may have you confused with another poster who was adopted.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #229 August 11, 2012 l Quote ast year Webster updated the definition of "cougar," but no one seems too upset about that. ...just to add.(this is my new thing, btw) If you people actually studied or acknowledged what we actually believe like Shotgun does, you'd be more fruitful in debates.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #230 August 11, 2012 QuoteBut as for gays, it will never really be their own children...the kids will always wonder about the biological contributor(s)...and this certainly affects one's life, no matter how good they've had it. As you've already pointed out, this is true for many children of heterosexual couples as well. The important thing for the kids is that they have parents (or at least a parent) who loves them and takes good care of them. Whether the parents are biological or adoptive shouldn't make much difference. And yeah, you must have had me confused; I was not adopted. But my heterosexual parents did divorce when I was three years old, which had a somewhat negative impact on my life as a child. One of my best friends was adopted (by a heterosexual couple), and she says she had a great childhood. She was curious about her biological parents, and made contact with them as an adult, so now she just sees them as an extension of her family. And of course I've known people whose biological, heterosexual parents never divorced, but were totally crappy parents. I just don't think the "biological" part of parenting makes much difference one way or another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #231 August 11, 2012 QuoteAnd of course I've known people whose biological, heterosexual parents never divorced, but were totally crappy parents. I've know strict parents whose children endend up like gems, others who ended up as heroin addicts...terrible parents whose kids ended up like gems, others who ended up as meth addicts. QuoteI just don't think the "biological" part of parenting makes much difference one way or another. For some it won't make much of a difference...for some it could be the difference between being a gem or a crack addict....c'est la vie, eh?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #232 August 11, 2012 QuoteI just don't think the "biological" part of parenting makes much difference one way or another. Out of curiosity, have you ever read Freakonomics?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #233 August 11, 2012 Quote Quote I just don't think the "biological" part of parenting makes much difference one way or another. For some it won't make much of a difference...for some it could be the difference between being a gem or a crack addict....c'est la vie, eh? Perhaps.... But if someone is blaming his crack addiction on the fact that he doesn't know who his biological parents are.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #234 August 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteI just don't think the "biological" part of parenting makes much difference one way or another. Out of curiosity, have you ever read Freakonomics? No. Does it say something about this topic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #235 August 12, 2012 Quote Quote Quote I just don't think the "biological" part of parenting makes much difference one way or another. For some it won't make much of a difference...for some it could be the difference between being a gem or a crack addict....c'est la vie, eh? Perhaps.... But if someone is blaming his crack addiction on the fact that he doesn't know who his biological parents are.... I can't win for losing with you people...can I?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #236 August 12, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI just don't think the "biological" part of parenting makes much difference one way or another. Out of curiosity, have you ever read Freakonomics? No. Does it say something about this topic? Yes. If I recall correctly, the author concluded that the biological part of parenting was actually very important. That said, it's been awhile since I read it, and I don't know how rigorous his analysis was. Not all pop-economics books are credible. Your comment just reminded me of the book; I'm not claiming your comment is wrong.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #237 August 12, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote I just don't think the "biological" part of parenting makes much difference one way or another. For some it won't make much of a difference...for some it could be the difference between being a gem or a crack addict....c'est la vie, eh? Perhaps.... But if someone is blaming his crack addiction on the fact that he doesn't know who his biological parents are.... I can't win for losing with you people...can I? Well, I think we were sort of agreeing.... that kids with bad parents can still turn out good, and kids with good parents can still turn out bad? (Not that a drug addict is necessarily "bad," but that's a whole 'nother topic.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #238 August 12, 2012 Quote Well, I think we were sort of agreeing.... Ya, and that sucks as far as entertainment goes in the SC... ...but I've agreed to be legit and not be a contentious asshole...it's gonna be hard, but it's a step in maturity that I have to take...Goddamn sin!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #239 August 12, 2012 Quote Quote Well, I think we were sort of agreeing.... Ya, and that sucks as far as entertainment goes in the SC... ...but I've agreed to be legit and not be a contentious asshole...it's gonna be hard, but it's a step in maturity that I have to take...Goddamn sin! You realize that is like praying for patience, God will give you tribulation. Trying to be positive and mature will have the heathens coming out to hunt you down. Remember the old saying, "Illigitimi non carborundum."Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #240 August 12, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Well, I think we were sort of agreeing.... Ya, and that sucks as far as entertainment goes in the SC... ...but I've agreed to be legit and not be a contentious asshole...it's gonna be hard, but it's a step in maturity that I have to take...Goddamn sin! You realize that is like praying for patience, God will give you tribulation. What can I say...I'm a glutton for punishment, truly. I also think I'm addicted to forgiveness/apologizing...weird, eh?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #241 August 13, 2012 Quote But as for gays, it will never really be their own children...the kids will always wonder about the biological contributor(s)...and this certainly affects one's life, no matter how good they've had it. Never? Always? News flash: Being gay does not mean that you're incapable of having sex with someone of the opposite gender. Being gay does not prevent gay people from having children without adoption, test tubes, turkey basters, or surrogates.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #242 August 13, 2012 I heard something intriguing this morning. If the LBGT community and their sympathizers are going to cease eating at Chick-fil-A because of the owner's beliefs, are they going to stop buying gasoline because the OPEC countries execute homosexuals?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #243 August 13, 2012 QuoteIf the LBGT community and their sympathizers are going to cease eating at Chick-fil-A because of the owner's beliefs Pointless question. Some members of the LGBT intend to stop eating at Chick Fil-A, not all of them. Some subset of that group may choose to not buy gas.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #244 August 13, 2012 QuoteI heard something intriguing this morning. For someone who claims to have an IQ of 130(?) you're rather easily intrigued. Other than that, your "intriguing" question is a monument of ignorance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #245 August 13, 2012 The reason I do not patronize Chick-fil-a is the same reason I do not purchase Buck knives. When I worked in a sporting goods store a lifetime ago, I read a flier from the company to the merchants who sold Buck knives. The gist of it was that we were admonished never to sell a Buck knife at anything less than the full retail price, since The Lord God was responsible for their ability to make better knives than anyone else, and that it was nothing short of heresy to sell them for less than the sticker price. Since then I have carried Puma, K-bar, Marbles, Schrade, Gerber, Camillus or some other brand that does not choose to link their religion to their product. John Moses Browning was a Mormon. He did not, however, make a big deal about it, and let his products speak for themselves. I thus have a couple dozen products of his design. Chick-fil-a has linked their product to their system of belief in such a way that it crossed the line on my part a long, long time ago. If someone takes the 'holier than thou' stance, I'm sure they can live without my business. I give to the Salvation Army, since they do not push their views on those they help, and put their money where their mouth is. I buy Kosher food, since Kashrut is on a par with Rheinheitsgebot, and actually assures a higher level of quality. Having said all that, it offends me that various powers that be have decided to oppose the right of the Chick-fil-a people to do business. Even if I find a lot about the business to be repellent, that does not mean I want to live in a society where opposition involves vandalism, official discrimination and the like. I have been places where that was the norm, and such places suck out loud. No matter how disquieting you might find a lawful business, to engage in totalitarian practices to suppress it is not okay. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #246 August 13, 2012 One of the attributes of being a conservative Christian is that I recognize humor in all forms of sensory input.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #247 August 13, 2012 I was employed by the SA for a short time as a counselor in their alcohol adult male rehabilitation unit. There was a mandatory short Bible study prior to serving the evening meal. That was in 1983 and things may have changed by now. I don't think they were receiving federal funding then.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #248 August 13, 2012 QuoteOne of the attributes of being a conservative Christian is that I recognize humor in all forms of sensory input. So if you have a bowel movement it feels hilarious? Other than that you don't come across as a walking laugh riot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #249 August 13, 2012 QuoteQuoteOne of the attributes of being a conservative Christian is that I recognize humor in all forms of sensory input. So if you have a bowel movement it feels hilarious? Other than that you don't come across as a walking laugh riot. I tend to give it as I get it. Furthermore, SC does not encourage humor.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #250 August 14, 2012 QuoteSC does not encourage humor. Let's change that by adding some intriguing humour then.... http://www.atheistmemebase.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/018-Jesus-last-thought.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
