kallend 2,147 #76 July 18, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote No-one will be Romney's VP, because Romney won't be elected. Did you mean VP candidate? Anyone who thinks they can predict the results of an election this far in advance is either an idiot or a fool. Or both. Wouldn't you agree? You could address that question to the individual who originated the thread. Any clear-headed person understood the question. Did Marc Rush give you his looking glass?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #77 July 18, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote No-one will be Romney's VP, because Romney won't be elected. Did you mean VP candidate? Anyone who thinks they can predict the results of an election this far in advance is either an idiot or a fool. Or both. Wouldn't you agree? You could address that question to the individual who originated the thread. Any clear-headed person understood the question. Did Marc Rush give you his looking glass? No, are you getting senile? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #78 July 18, 2012 Quote Quote Quote No-one will be Romney's VP, because Romney won't be elected. Did you mean VP candidate? Anyone who thinks they can predict the results of an election this far in advance is either an idiot or a fool. Or both. Wouldn't you agree? I don't think the American people will elect a liar/felon even though some people "don't care" about that. The incumbent admitted to felony drug use before the last election, and has made quite a few claims that are verifiably false over the years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #79 July 18, 2012 QuoteThe incumbent admitted to felony drug use before the last election, and has made quite a few claims that are verifiably false over the years. Drug use is not a felony. Drug possession may be, although usually it is a misdemeanor unless you are in possession with intent to distribute. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #80 July 18, 2012 Yet we already have one in the White House. Admittedly even. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #81 July 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteThe incumbent admitted to felony drug use before the last election, and has made quite a few claims that are verifiably false over the years. Drug use is not a felony. Drug possession may be, although usually it is a misdemeanor unless you are in possession with intent to distribute. That is entirely jurisdiction-dependent. In some places even THINKING hard about drugs is a felony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #82 July 18, 2012 Depends on the drug, quantity, jurisdiction, and mood of the arresting officer. Drug use can most certainly be a felony. YMMV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #83 July 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteDecision is supposed to be this week. I think he should tap Oprah Winfrey. He might not win, but it would not be boring. Dude, I wouldn't tap that with your dick. (sorry, had to be said by somebody.)quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #84 July 18, 2012 You sure? She would probably give you a car. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #85 July 18, 2012 Your one warning. Cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #86 July 18, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote No-one will be Romney's VP, because Romney won't be elected. Did you mean VP candidate? Anyone who thinks they can predict the results of an election this far in advance is either an idiot or a fool. Or both. Wouldn't you agree? I don't think the American people will elect a liar/felon even though some people "don't care" about that. The incumbent admitted to felony drug use before the last election, and has made quite a few claims that are verifiably false over the years. You really think Obama's youthful recreational drug use, or his politician's "tell 'em what they wanna hear" will play as vote-swinging factors? Everybody knew that Reagan was a once-divorced adulterer when he was elected president. And his lifetime reputation was hardly sullied in the common-man's eyes despite Iran-Contra. Clinton? LOL, that old pot-smokin', snatch-grabbin, draft dodgin' dog. Elected twice, despite his obvious lies about drugs and sex. GW Bush? Drunk, drug user, basically AWOL while defending the Gulf of Mexico against the Viet Cong, couldn't stitch 2 coherent sentences together. Elected. Then pulled us into a useless war in Iraq, the lies for which came to light pretty soon. Elected again. Weak point you make here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #87 July 18, 2012 QuoteYou really think Obama's youthful recreational drug use,....(examples all the way back)......pulled us into a useless war in Iraq, the lies for which came to light pretty soon. Elected again. Weak point you make here. so we're pretty much screwed no matter who is elected, and if it wasn't these two asswipes, it would likely be two other asswipes of equal standards. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #88 July 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou really think Obama's youthful recreational drug use,....(examples all the way back)......pulled us into a useless war in Iraq, the lies for which came to light pretty soon. Elected again. Weak point you make here. so we're pretty much screwed no matter who is elected, and if it wasn't these two asswipes, it would likely be two other asswipes of equal standards. Aaand, you win today's cigar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #89 July 18, 2012 QuoteAre there really so many people who strictly follow the Republican or Democratic party line on all issues? I certainly don't. But I tend to lean a little left, so I usually end up voting Democrat or some party other than Republican. However, if there was a Republican who "doesn't follow the party line" in a way that I agree with (issues that are important to me), I might vote for them. And I don't think I'm the only one who is close to the middle and possibly swayable. I can't remember the last time I submitted a ballot with no votes for an "R" candidate, if ever. I try to vote for a person, not a party. Given that Democrats often espouse a kinder, more compassionate perspective than Republicans who generally seem more selfish, I'd guess my average probably splits somewhere around 45% D, 30% R, and 25% I/other. I consider my vote completely up for grabs in any election, and would have given McCain a much harder look if he'd picked someone better than Palin. In this case, I like Obama more than Romney at this point, but if the latter were to pick Paul as his running mate, I'd reconsider, and Rice could maybe win it for him too. Both bring some different sets of positives and negatives. Another run-of-the-mill white male GOP zombie will not gain Romney much. He needs to add some color, either literally or figuratively. My preference would be that he adds someone who thinks different than him, but someone who simply talks or looks different might be enough. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #90 July 18, 2012 Quote Yet we already have one in the White House. Admittedly even. You say "admittedly" like its a bad thing. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #91 July 18, 2012 I am calling on Obama to release the names of the drug dealers from whom he bought his drugs all those years he was a (self-admitted) dope head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #92 July 18, 2012 QuoteI am calling on Obama to release the names of the drug dealers from whom he bought his drugs all those years he was a (self-admitted) dope head. Did you make the same demand of Bush, Jr.? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #93 July 18, 2012 Nah, I was actually more concerned with dangling chad around that time. 537 IIRC? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #94 July 18, 2012 Quote Nah, I was actually more concerned with dangling chad around that time. 537 IIRC? Well, Chad was from your neighborhood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #95 July 18, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote I hope you are wrong! It would be STUPID to announce the veep pick prior to the convention! Why? If the decision gets made this week, why keep it a secret for 5 weeks merely for dramatic effect, when instead that's 5 weeks where you have the second half of the ticket campaigning for victory. That sounds stupid to me. Because the announcement of the VP always results in a bump in the polls. Timing is important. Plus, at this point Romney is the presumed nominee. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/05/22/timing_may_be_key_in_romneys_vp_announcement_114222-2.html This article speaks to the same mindset. I don't agree with it in principle - the tendency to announce right before the convention means that you intermingle any gain that has with the typical convention bounce that each candidate gets. Bumps aren't nearly as important as actual gains in voters. A temporary bump just gets you a little juice in the fundraising. The biggest problem I see here is that Romney is vulnerable to attacks (truthful ones) about his willingness to change his mind with the wind. There are a lot of reasons for some voters to write him off - RomneyCare, abortion stances (all of them), his religion, his MA history. The Veep can settle the ticket. And historically speaking, most voters have settled down on their pick by Labor Day, right as the convention is happening. They need to vet their choices better than they did with the Palin Hail Mary, but I think they get more mileage now. But this is the sort of thing that's much easier to conclude in hindsight, after examining the weekly tracking polls. Going back to McCain, if you buy into the premise behind the HBO docudrama about Palin, they had the choice of gambling on someone like her, or plodding their way to a certain loss with a boring VP. I think they lose either way, but I do feel they made the better try with her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #96 July 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteI am calling on Obama to release the names of the drug dealers from whom he bought his drugs all those years he was a (self-admitted) dope head. Did you make the same demand of Bush, Jr.? Speaking of Bush, I think Jeb Bush would be an excellent choice for VP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #97 July 19, 2012 QuoteSpeaking of Bush, I think Jeb Bush would be an excellent choice for VP. I doubt he wants it. He probably has his eye on the nomination in 2016.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #98 July 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteSpeaking of Bush, I think Jeb Bush would be an excellent choice for VP. I doubt he wants it. He probably has his eye on the nomination in 2016. That would pre-suppose he doesn't think Romney can win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #99 July 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteSpeaking of Bush, I think Jeb Bush would be an excellent choice for VP. I doubt he wants it. He probably has his eye on the nomination in 2016. That would pre-suppose he doesn't think Romney can win. That's a reasonable presupposition.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #100 July 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSpeaking of Bush, I think Jeb Bush would be an excellent choice for VP. I doubt he wants it. He probably has his eye on the nomination in 2016. In you perspective. I'm pretty sure Jeb Bush doesn't share it. That would pre-suppose he doesn't think Romney can win. That's a reasonable presupposition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites