rehmwa 2 #26 July 16, 2012 Quote>On the plus side, we've been saying that (or variations thereof) for 2000 years or so. that sounds tiring ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 July 16, 2012 QuoteI think Rice would be the one most likely to help him win the election. Carries too much baggage from the 43rd Aministration. Has repeatedly said in no uncertain terms she's not interested.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 #28 July 16, 2012 QuoteDoesn't really matter - they are going to lose. The smart person offered the spot would feign interest but find a plausible reason not to accept. Being the VP candidate on a hard right wing losing ticket that is this much out of touch with reality would be a very bad move. I've heard Pawlenty as a front runner - but he is a smart man and I say he declines if offered. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Polling says otherwise.You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #29 July 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteDoesn't really matter - they are going to lose. The smart person offered the spot would feign interest but find a plausible reason not to accept. Being the VP candidate on a hard right wing losing ticket that is this much out of touch with reality would be a very bad move. I've heard Pawlenty as a front runner - but he is a smart man and I say he declines if offered. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Polling says otherwise. read your own link: Quote Rasmussen Reports projects that the president leads in states with 207 Electoral College Votes, while Romney has the edge in states with 170 Votes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #30 July 16, 2012 >read your own link: If you read it selectively enough you can find these words: "Rasmussen Reports projects that . . . Romney has the edge in states . . ." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #31 July 17, 2012 Someone was joking, right, when they said "Palin"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #32 July 17, 2012 QuoteSomeone was joking, right, when they said "Palin"? That's what I thought. I can't imagine that Romney spent even one second considering her for a running mate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #33 July 17, 2012 I started to put Herman Cain and Ron Paul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #34 July 17, 2012 QuoteOn the plus side, we've been saying that (or variations thereof) for 2000 years or so. Well I think the lesson to be learned was that the wolf eventually came, didn't he? Funny how that escapes some people...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #35 July 17, 2012 Quote I started to put Herman Cain and Ron Paul. Hmm.... Actually, Ron Paul would be a pretty interesting choice. I think he definitely has a better chance if he chooses someone who is not your typical conservative dude. Or Palin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #36 July 17, 2012 >Well I think the lesson to be learned was that the wolf eventually came, didn't he? Given that we've had steadily increasing levels of wealth, quality of life, personal rights and lifespan, if a wolf has come - he's a pretty nice one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #37 July 17, 2012 Quote Quote I think Rice would be the one most likely to help him win the election. Carries too much baggage from the 43rd Aministration. I think there are a lot of people who would either ignore this or see her experience as balancing it out. And, as much as I hate to say this, I think Rice would help take votes away from women and minorities that Obama has mostly secured. Quote Has repeatedly said in no uncertain terms she's not interested. Quade, she's a woman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #38 July 17, 2012 I think Rick Snyder is a possibility. I also told Billvon gasoline was going to be $10/gallon in may 2010 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #39 July 17, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote I think Rice would be the one most likely to help him win the election. Carries too much baggage from the 43rd Aministration. I think there are a lot of people who would either ignore this or see her experience as balancing it out. And, as much as I hate to say this, I think Rice would help take votes away from women and minorities that Obama has mostly secured. Quote Has repeatedly said in no uncertain terms she's not interested. Quade, she's a woman. Just one minor problem with Rice, not only is she a black woman, she's a Gay black woman. Not a chance in a hell a Mormon (or for that matter any Republican in 2012) will pick her as a running mate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #40 July 17, 2012 Quote>Well I think the lesson to be learned was that the wolf eventually came, didn't he? Given that we've had steadily increasing levels of wealth, quality of life, personal rights and lifespan, if a wolf has come - he's a pretty nice one. "Optimism is the madness of insisting that all is well when we are miserable."Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #41 July 17, 2012 Quote Just one minor problem with Rice, not only is she a black woman, she's a Gay black woman. Not a chance in a hell a Mormon (or for that matter any Republican in 2012) will pick her as a running mate. Cite? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #42 July 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteJust one minor problem with Rice, not only is she a black woman, she's a Gay black woman. Not a chance in a hell a Mormon (or for that matter any Republican in 2012) will pick her as a running mate. Cite? You're not going to find any pictures if that's what you're looking for, but there's always going to be speculation about anyone who is in their mid-50s, never been married or had children. Not that any of those are definitive items, but in combination they do lead some people to question and speculation on Rice goes back to at least her time in the 43rd.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #43 July 17, 2012 QuoteI think there are a lot of people who would either ignore this or see her experience as balancing it out. And, as much as I hate to say this, I think Rice would help take votes away from women and minorities that Obama has mostly secured. Agreed. She'd also take votes away from Romney. Like it or not, there is a real group of voters who favor Romney over Obama for no other reason than because he's white. (I'm in no way implying that everyone who opposes Obama is racist.) She's also fairly liberal, as Republicans go, as is Romney, so they don't balance out well. Rice on the ticket might inspire some conservatives to stay home in November. Her effect on the election notwithstanding, from what I know of her, I think she'd make a fine VP, better than many of the other (Republican) options, maybe all of them.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #44 July 17, 2012 >"Optimism is the madness of insisting that all is well when we are miserable." You may be miserable, but by any standards we're doing better than ever. No longer are you pretty much assured to lose children during childbirth. More than likely no one in your family will ever suffer polio, or plague, or malaria. We aren't burning witches. Blacks aren't enslaved. Women can get almost any job a man can. We are living longer and our quality of life is higher. Sure, some people will still complain, about how horrible this politician or that political movement is. But the vast majority of people out there just want to live their lives and raise their families in peace, and this is a pretty good time to do that. (And keep in mind there are still some people alive who lived through World War II; more still who lived through the Korean War and Vietnam. Telling such people that they had it so much better than you - well, they may not agree.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #45 July 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteJust one minor problem with Rice, not only is she a black woman, she's a Gay black woman. Not a chance in a hell a Mormon (or for that matter any Republican in 2012) will pick her as a running mate. Cite? You're not going to find any pictures if that's what you're looking for, but there's always going to be speculation about anyone who is in their mid-50s, never been married or had children. Not that any of those are definitive items, but in combination they do lead some people to question and speculation on Rice goes back to at least her time in the 43rd. What do they call that in Hollywood? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #46 July 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteJust one minor problem with Rice, not only is she a black woman, she's a Gay black woman. Not a chance in a hell a Mormon (or for that matter any Republican in 2012) will pick her as a running mate. Cite? You're not going to find any pictures if that's what you're looking for, but there's always going to be speculation about anyone who is in their mid-50s, never been married or had children. Not that any of those are definitive items, but in combination they do lead some people to question and speculation on Rice goes back to at least her time in the 43rd. What do they call that in Hollywood? Generally? Accurate. Not that anybody in "Hollywood" gives a rats ass. It's the freaked out ultra-right-wing fanatics who go apeshit over stuff like that, which is why moderates in the GOP are pretty much forced to lead secret and sometimes ridiculously hypocritical lives.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #47 July 17, 2012 Quote What do they call that in Hollywood? Oprah but wait, she's "engaged" Oprah still passes Quade's "gay speculation" test: Quote there's always going to be speculation about anyone who is in their mid-50s, never been married or had children Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #48 July 17, 2012 Quote Just one minor problem with Rice, not only is she a black woman, she's a Gay black woman. No!!! She had a relationship with Jack Donaghy on 30 Rock. She can't be gay!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #49 July 17, 2012 She also does not currently follow the Republican party line on abortion. This is the final nail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #50 July 17, 2012 QuoteShe also does not currently follow the Republican party line on abortion. This is the final nail. Are there really so many people who strictly follow the Republican or Democratic party line on all issues? I certainly don't. But I tend to lean a little left, so I usually end up voting Democrat or some party other than Republican. However, if there was a Republican who "doesn't follow the party line" in a way that I agree with (issues that are important to me), I might vote for them. And I don't think I'm the only one who is close to the middle and possibly swayable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
