StreetScooby 5 #1 July 4, 2012 Thought this was interesting...We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #2 July 4, 2012 QuoteThought this was interesting... Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #3 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteThought this was interesting... Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Yes, support of education is not a conservative priority.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #4 July 4, 2012 Quote Yes, support of education is not a conservative priority. I think conservatives are huge on supporting education. Thus, the push for charter schools. Conservatives definitely do not see supporting teacher unions as a priority. I think we can agree they're two different things.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #5 July 4, 2012 Of course, the feds give a lot of it back to the oil companies in the form of tax breaks.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #6 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteThought this was interesting... Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Yes, support of education is not a conservative priority. Well, the chances are way better than even that the poster maker "learned" the language from a lib teacher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #7 July 4, 2012 Quote Of course, the feds give a lot of it back to the oil companies in the form of tax breaks. And the Gov't gives it back to the citizens in the form of investments into companies like Solyndra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #8 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteThought this was interesting... Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". And the fact that the numbers are extremely misleading at best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #9 July 4, 2012 Quote And the fact that the numbers are extremely misleading at best. What makes you say that? Full disclosure, I have not researched the numbers, yet.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #10 July 4, 2012 QuoteWhat makes you say that? Full disclosure, I have not researched the numbers, yet. Because oil companies make a lot more money on the exploration and drilling side. Let's take an apple orchard which also has a little retail store selling apples. Growing the apples and geting them to market costs 15c per apple. The wholesale market for apples is at $1 per apple, which nets the orchard a nice profit. The farmer then buys some apples on the wholesale market a $1 per apple and brings them to his little retail store to sell at $1.05 per apple. What would you think if that farmer told you his orchard only profits 5 cents per apple sold at retail? The statement would be technically true, but extremely misleading since the orchard made the majority of its profits somewhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #11 July 4, 2012 Quote Because oil companies make a lot more money on the exploration and drilling side. Yes, they do. Quote The statement would be technically true, but extremely misleading since the orchard made the majority of its profits somewhere else. And you don't think the government is taxing the other parts of the supply chain, also?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #12 July 4, 2012 QuoteAnd you don't think the government is taxing the other parts of the supply chain, also? Of course they are. Like any other business. So, in the end what was the point you are trying to make? That the government makes more on a gallon of gas than the oil company? Cause that simply isn't true. The oil company has already made a lot of profit before it even get's to the retail stage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #13 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuote Because oil companies make a lot more money on the exploration and drilling side. Yes, they do. Quote The statement would be technically true, but extremely misleading since the orchard made the majority of its profits somewhere else. And you don't think the government is taxing the other parts of the supply chain, also? I dunno... Since you brought up the comparison, why don't you tell us?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #14 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteThought this was interesting... Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Yes, support of education is not a conservative priority. Show the *superlative* job the liberals have done with it, though. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #15 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThought this was interesting... Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Yes, support of education is not a conservative priority. Well, the chances are way better than even that the poster maker "learned" the language from a lib teacher. Actually I'd say it was my parents that taught me to read. I have however been manipulated by teachers before...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 130 #16 July 6, 2012 It would be interesting to know what their capital investment is versus profit. What is their overall margin? then take into account the risk profile and recapitalization requirements we could judge it the profits are "unreasonable"Give one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #17 July 6, 2012 Quote then take into account the risk profile and recapitalization requirements we could judge it the profits are "unreasonable" Just curious - do you think Apple's or Microsoft's profits are unreasonable?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #18 July 6, 2012 Quote Just curious - do you think Apple's or Microsoft's profits are unreasonable? Am I a shareholder or a customer?"What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #19 July 6, 2012 >Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Get a brain, morans! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #20 July 6, 2012 Quote>Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Get a brain, morans! Please tell me that was a joke.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #21 July 6, 2012 Quote Quote >Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Get a brain, morans! Please tell me that was a joke. Tea party sign ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #22 July 6, 2012 Quote Quote Quote >Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Get a brain, morans! Please tell me that was a joke. Tea party sign The sign says "Get a brain! Morans". Understanding punctuation is a key element of literacy. Obviously Morans, the guy holding the sign, is imploring folks to "get a brain". This one is my favorite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #23 July 6, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote >Might be a bit more convincing except for the misuse of "you're". Get a brain, morans! Please tell me that was a joke. Tea party sign I thought this one summed it up nicely. http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-tea-party-signs.htm?x=262&y=106&PS=504%3A55 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #24 July 6, 2012 Full disclosure here, ...on my voter registration card, I have NONE where party affiliation is written. It's been that way pushing 20 years now. There are a lot of liberal people on this forum, and jclalor, I include you in that group. You and most of your fellow liberals here have informed opinions, most of which are not unreasonable. Getting to my point, if people think the tea party is full of ignorant red necks, and only ignorant red necks are concerned about the direction the country is going in, ...they couldn't be more wrong. Our Constitution is meant to limit the power of the Federal Government. Our society seems to be losing track of that very important basis for the republic, except for an increasing number of hard working people who are beginning to realize that they only have so much money to provide for their families, and their retirement. My country, ...our country, is at a tipping point in its existence. Federal debt has reached levels where it may never be repaid. If it is repaid, it will be with US Dollars that are worth much less than current US Dollars. Likewise, our elected federal officials can't even pass a budget, much less balance a budget. An enormous number of people seem to believe they can fix all of this just by taking more money from "rich people" and corporations. The numbers don't even come close to adding up. Plus, we have had an incredible expansion in the entitlement state, with more entitlements to follow. How is that going to be paid for? It's not. The world is already moving away from buying US treasuries. Bond auctions are covered because our government/fed/treasury is buying over 30% of the auction, i.e., we are printing money. Rates for America and it's citizens, et. al., will not stay this low for much longer. Our government is funding itself with relatively short term bonds (10 yr and less). Once rates start going up, and the government needs to roll it's debt, those higher interest rates are going to result in a significant increase in the Federal Government's interest payments. Interest payments alone could reach $1 Trillion dollars per year in our lifetimes. Most people are not aware of the following fact: the reason the US Dollar is the reserve currency for the planet is because of the 10 or so aircraft carriers we have floating around the oceans, and the muscle to back up any trouble that may come their way. The world has known since WW II that the US will always service it's debt, even during extreme periods of war. As the US Dollar loses its significance, and our military shrinks, fewer people will be willing to buy 2% or less US bonds. When that happens, all the paper our Fed has been printing will be significantly reduced in value. The next Federal administration must address this issue. Otherwise, we may all be biding time until the republic as intended by our founding fathers, one where the Federal government has limited powers, ...no longer exists. Our children's futures will be more of a struggle, relative to our parents, than it should be when that happens.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #25 July 6, 2012 Quote Show the *superlative* job the liberals have done with it, though. This is a major short fall of our current society. Too many people feel that the government should educate their children, ...and the government is doing a piss poor job of it. Government schools are not consistently producing citizens prepared to live in a civil society populated with responsible adults. Charter schools are a good way to go. If the government is doing a better job, then folks will send their children back and stop paying for the charter school. The essence of markets is competition. Only through competition will cost effective excellence be achieved. If the government is doing something, there is no competition. And I believe everyone will agree the government has a lot of room for improvement in the services they are claiming to provide, but no outside competition to make that happen.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
