davjohns 1 #26 July 4, 2012 I took the comments more generally addressing Christianity and not Ron in particular. I don't know Ron and don't pay too much attention to the posting habits of individuals on here. I focus on opinions and ideas. But if you guys all understood that you were engaging in individual insults, I guess I can stay out of it. It's frequent enough around here that there's no reason to point out this one. I thought it was a swipe at all religion.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #27 July 4, 2012 Communism is actually a beautiful ideal. It even works in small communities in Israel. In small communities, everyone can put pressure you to produce and when you have a need, everyone knows if you are deserving of help or not. On a federal level? Not a chance. Too easy to abuse. Sad, but reality.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #28 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteI'd agree that most mainstream Christians would disagree with the message that Westboro Baptists espouse, and not just the methods by which they preach it. Ron? Not so much. wtf have you actually done to encumber the purposes of westboro? I highly doubt nearly as much as Ron... We're out their getting our hands dirty while you people sit on your ass and just bitch and moan. Ron has specifically blamed the gays for the existence of Westboro and admitted to holding opinions very similar to those they express. His claimed differences with them are a) their pulpit (funerals of vets, etc) and b) the fact that they don't allow for forgiveness, whereas he believes gays can be forgiven (but they still need to stop sinning). He has, in a thread about giving healthcare to the poor, said he thinks our goverment should prioritize wiping out Muslim terrorists with thsoe dollars. Basically in most instances where one can choose between "what would Jesus do" and "what would Rush Limbaugh do", he goes with the latter. If that brand of Christianity qualifies as getting one's hands dirty, I'd rather keep mine clean. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #29 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteAs for me and my family, we will serve the Lord. With a preference for killing worshipers of other gods, condemning queers to eternal damnation, and making absolutely positively sure that poor people don't get medical care on your dime? Nice lord you serve there. Blues, Dave We don't do that. It is your lack of actual knowledge. You are just guessing at what you think we do. You have been doing that for several years now. Are you sheltered? I'm not guessing at anything Ron, my opinion of your brand of religion has been entirely formed by opinions you've expressed here. Do I think you personally go out killing Muslims, banishing gays to eternal damnation, or denying quality healthcare to the poor? Of course not. You just argue in support of those positions. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #30 July 4, 2012 QuoteI took the comments more generally addressing Christianity and not Ron in particular. I don't know Ron and don't pay too much attention to the posting habits of individuals on here. I focus on opinions and ideas. But if you guys all understood that you were engaging in individual insults, I guess I can stay out of it. It's frequent enough around here that there's no reason to point out this one. I thought it was a swipe at all religion. I can see where it it might be construed as a personal attack, but it really wasn't actually intended as such, at least not in a "what a jerk" sort of way. My intent was more of a "coughcoughbullshitcough" sort of response to the whole "serving the Lord" claim, as I see a lot more kind and compassionate fervor from Christians (and atheists, Muslims, Jews, etc) who are not so vocal about their religious beliefs. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #31 July 4, 2012 >Communism is actually a beautiful ideal. So is socialism, capitalism and democracy. So is libertarianism, republicanism and democrat(ism?) All are great in theory - but all have some problems in practice. Any pure -ism has that problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #32 July 4, 2012 I asked you wtf have have you actually done to encumber the purposes of westboro other than bitch and moan? I got it, you don't do shit...the thank you card is in the mail.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #33 July 4, 2012 Quote the thank you card is in the mail. That's kind of you but if I were interested in recognition or thanks I'd have bragged about my activities in Speaker's Corner. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #34 July 4, 2012 I just find it interesting that a person of such indolence, insomuch as to not lift one finger of support in their conviction would have the gull to denigrate another of such vivacity in the same conviction. It just goes to show that you don't really give a shit about the families of those fallen soldiers inasmuch as you do the desperate opportunity to berate a christian who actually does ...you're all talk, and in the end, of absolutely no import whatsoever...I just want you to realize that and seek help.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #35 July 4, 2012 QuoteI just find it interesting that a person of such indolence, insomuch as to not lift one finger of support in their conviction would have the gull to denigrate another of such vivacity in the same conviction. It just goes to show that you don't really give a shit about the families of those fallen soldiers inasmuch as you do the desperate opportunity to berate a christian who actually does ...you're all talk, and in the end, of absolutely no import whatsoever...I just want you to realize that and seek help. Both your and Dave's (livendive's) respective posting histories and forum personalities are well-known to the regulars in here. If you're making your case to the court of public opinion, get a good lawyer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #36 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuoteI just find it interesting that a person of such indolence, insomuch as to not lift one finger of support in their conviction would have the gull to denigrate another of such vivacity in the same conviction. It just goes to show that you don't really give a shit about the families of those fallen soldiers inasmuch as you do the desperate opportunity to berate a christian who actually does ...you're all talk, and in the end, of absolutely no import whatsoever...I just want you to realize that and seek help. Both your and Dave's (livendive's) respective posting histories and forum personalities are well-known to the regulars in here. If you're making your case to the court of public opinion, get a good lawyer. Ya, if by public opinion you mean the regular biased libeal atheists like yourself that proliferate this forum, I may need Jesus Christ himself...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #37 July 4, 2012 You don't speak for Jesus Christ, either. But thanks for the QED. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #38 July 4, 2012 I'm also familiar with your post and know you boast in the fact that you lie for a living.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #39 July 4, 2012 QuoteI'm also familiar with your post and know you boast in the fact that you lie for a living. Your persistent slander of others is disgraceful. And you really need to get a grip on your temper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yarpos 4 #40 July 4, 2012 QuoteThat is precisely what the other 50% of the electorate think about the people who RE-elected Bush in 2004: My God, have they completely lost their minds? dont leave out the rest of the western world.....they voted for him? twice?regards, Steve the older I get...the better I was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #41 July 4, 2012 Quote Ron has specifically blamed the gays for the existence of Westboro and admitted to holding opinions very similar to those they express. His claimed differences with them are a) their pulpit (funerals of vets, etc) and b) the fact that they don't allow for forgiveness, whereas he believes gays can be forgiven (but they still need to stop sinning). Essentially true, except I don't blame gays Pastor Phelps does. It is a matter of semantics. I consider WBC a cult and they are a form of domestic terrorism. To me they are the enemy. QuoteHe has, in a thread about giving healthcare to the poor, said he thinks our goverment should prioritize wiping out Muslim terrorists with thsoe dollars. I do not see the funding as an either/or proposition. I think Obamacare is a power grab for the benefit for the federal government. In all my years as a clinician, I never saw anyone deprived of medical treatment that made an effort to receive it. QuoteBasically in most instances where one can choose between "what would Jesus do" and "what would Rush Limbaugh do", he goes with the latter. If that brand of Christianity qualifies as getting one's hands dirty, I'd rather keep mine clean. In my experience, in order to survive you occasionally have to get your hands dirty. If you choose to be a sheep that is fine and no criticism from me. However, what I criticize is that you are bad mouthing the sheepdogs that are trying to keep you safe.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #42 July 4, 2012 Quote I'm not guessing at anything Ron, my opinion of your brand of religion has been entirely formed by opinions you've expressed here. Do I think you personally go out killing Muslims, banishing gays to eternal damnation, or denying quality healthcare to the poor? Of course not. You just argue in support of those positions. Blues, Dave Killing Muslim terrorists- Yes, I support. Banishing gays to eternal damnation- No, that is what the Bible states.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #43 July 4, 2012 Quote In my experience, in order to survive you occasionally have to get your hands dirty. If you choose to be a sheep that is fine and no criticism from me. However, what I criticize is that you are bad mouthing the sheepdogs that are trying to keep you safe. Literally LOL! OK, you simply must humor me with why you think I want or need your protection, and tell me how you're keeping me safe. After that, well, just get over yourself, because adherence to dogma instead of finding your own path makes you more of a sheep than a sheepdog. Also note, the uniquely callous brand of religion you promote is unlikely to attract as many followers as the kinder, more compassionate versions promoted by your peers. Honey will catch more flies than vinegar and all that. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #44 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuote In my experience, in order to survive you occasionally have to get your hands dirty. If you choose to be a sheep that is fine and no criticism from me. However, what I criticize is that you are bad mouthing the sheepdogs that are trying to keep you safe. Literally LOL! OK, you simply must humor me with why you think I want or need your protection, and tell me how you're keeping me safe. After that, well, just get over yourself, because adherence to dogma instead of finding your own path makes you more of a sheep than a sheepdog. Also note, the uniquely callous brand of religion you promote is unlikely to attract as many followers as the kinder, more compassionate versions promoted by your peers. Honey will catch more flies than vinegar and all that. Blues, Dave You made a comment on the macro level and I responded on the macro level. Now you come back on the micro level. You Liberals are a slippery bunch I tell ya'. In Apr 09 I started out with positive messages and was attacked. So I changed my tactic and started giving back as I get. In the past you have been extremely antagonistic. Here lately you have been bordering on moderate. I can hold my own either way. "Eyes on the olive branch with arrows at the ready."Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #45 July 5, 2012 QuoteWith a preference for killing worshipers of other gods, condemning queers to eternal damnation, and making absolutely positively sure that poor people don't get medical care on your dime? Sounds just like like your 'Merikan politicos yet you put your full faith in them. Go figure "It's OK for my 'Merikan politicos to fuck me because I appove of all of it." It's where we are today. Thanks.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #46 July 5, 2012 QuoteCome on, guys. That was out of line. Quote Yep. Just proves you don't have to actaully think when operating a keyboard.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #47 July 5, 2012 Good posts Sparky and John. Thanks for the realism. Ahhh...but some will see the truth of it, some won't.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #48 July 5, 2012 Quote specifically thinned by Ron's own statements in this forum. .....Ron? Not so much. So now we have a few self-appointed anti-religion luminaries following Ron around and bastardizing other threads. Nice.... You guys....get a life. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #49 July 5, 2012 Quote Honey will catch more flies than vinegar and all that. After all your ranting, you say this? My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #50 July 5, 2012 Quote "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him their president." Source – Kind of vauge. Sparky I like that you posted this. It pretty much sums up my own personal feelings about the citiizens of this country and how we, as a whole, are driving ourselves to the brink of disaster, and in all liklihood far, far beyond. We bring it all on ourselves.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
popsjumper 2 #47 July 5, 2012 Good posts Sparky and John. Thanks for the realism. Ahhh...but some will see the truth of it, some won't.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #48 July 5, 2012 Quote specifically thinned by Ron's own statements in this forum. .....Ron? Not so much. So now we have a few self-appointed anti-religion luminaries following Ron around and bastardizing other threads. Nice.... You guys....get a life. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #49 July 5, 2012 Quote Honey will catch more flies than vinegar and all that. After all your ranting, you say this? My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #50 July 5, 2012 Quote "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him their president." Source – Kind of vauge. Sparky I like that you posted this. It pretty much sums up my own personal feelings about the citiizens of this country and how we, as a whole, are driving ourselves to the brink of disaster, and in all liklihood far, far beyond. We bring it all on ourselves.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
