shah269 0 #1 June 28, 2012 http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=north-carolina-sea-level-rises-desipte-senators QuoteLess than two weeks after the state's senate passed a climate science-squelching bill, research shows that sea level along the coast between NC and Mass. is rising faster than anywhere on Earth Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #2 June 28, 2012 Quotehttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=north-carolina-sea-level-rises-desipte-senators QuoteLess than two weeks after the state's senate passed a climate science-squelching bill, research shows that sea level along the coast between NC and Mass. is rising faster than anywhere on Earth I guess they take King Cnut as their intellectual ancestor: Cnut rex cum viginti annis regnasset, vivere destitit apud Scaftesbirh, & sepultus est apud Wincestre in veteri Monasterio. De cuius regis potentia pauca sunt perstringenda. Nec enim tantae magnitudinis rex fuerat in Anglia. Erat enim dominus totius Daniae, totius Angliae, totius Norwagiae, simul & Scotiae. Enimvero extra numerum bellorum, quibus maxime splenduit, tria gessit eleganter & magnifice: Primum est, quod filiam suam Imperatori Romano cum ineffabilibus divitiis maritavit. Secundum, quod Romam pergens omnes malas exactiones in via, quae per Gallias Romam tendit (quae vocantur tolonea vel transversa) data pecunia sua diminui fecit usque ad medietatem. Tertium, quid cum maximo vigore imperii, sedile suum in littore maris, cum ascenderet, statui iussit. Dixit autem mari ascendenti, tu meae ditionis es, & terra in qua sedeo mea est: nec fuit qui impune meo resisteret imperio. Imperio igitur tibi, ne in terram meam ascendas, nec vestes nec membra dominatoris tui madefacere praesumas. Mare vero de more conscendens pedes regis & crura, since reverentia madefecit. Rex igitur resiliens ait. Sciant omnes habitantes orbem vanam & frivolam regum esse potentiam, nec regis qempiam nomine dignum praeter eum, cuius nutui coelum terra mare legibus obediunt aeternis, [Rex igitur Cnut nunquam postea coronam auream cervici sua imposuit, sed super imaginem Domini, quae cruci affixa erat, posuit eam in aeternum, in laudem Dei regis magni:] Cuius misericordia Cnut regis anima quiete fruatur. Maybe they'll legislate that pi = 3 next. That would be convenient, after all.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #3 June 28, 2012 Am I missing something obvious? How does sea-level rise more in one place than in another?-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #4 June 28, 2012 QuoteAm I missing something obvious? How does sea-level rise more in one place than in another? It's explained in the article.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #5 June 28, 2012 >How does sea-level rise more in one place than in another? The sea isn't flat. Not only do tides change it, but warming it one area will make it expand while cooler oceans in other places remain the same or shrink. Winds cause sea level rises as do currents and salinity (which is changed by evaporation.) Finally, the earth's gravity is not uniform, so even absent all those forces the sea won't approximate a sphere. As a concrete example of this, the Pacific is 8 inches higher than the Atlantic at the Panama Canal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #6 June 28, 2012 QuoteAs a concrete example of this, the Pacific is 8 inches higher than the Atlantic at the Panama Canal. How far out is that right! I mean really! Cooool stuff!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #7 June 28, 2012 No. Nature doesn't have emotions and cannot mock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #8 June 28, 2012 Quote Maybe they'll legislate that pi = 3 next. That would be convenient, after all. I'm trying to figure out whether I'll get better or worse gas mileage if they do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #9 June 28, 2012 QuoteNo. Nature doesn't have emotions and cannot mock. Yeah that's what you think!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #10 June 28, 2012 QuoteQuote Maybe they'll legislate that pi = 3 next. That would be convenient, after all. I'm trying to figure out whether I'll get better or worse gas mileage if they do that. Well, you'd get a bit less pi in each slice.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #11 June 28, 2012 QuoteAm I missing something obvious? How does sea-level rise more in one place than in another? speaking generally, the land masses themselves tend to rise or fall due to shifting of plates. I thought Lawrocket or someone else noted recently that the Eastern Seaboard is a falling mass. But before we get too dramatic, Shah, their estimate was that in 90 years, that area may see an extra 20-29 cm of height (a foot, basically). We already know that they'll be wiped out by the constant Cat 4+ hurricanes long before then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 June 28, 2012 QuoteQuoteNo. Nature doesn't have emotions and cannot mock. Yeah that's what you think! Sometimes it seems that way, as well as a sense of humor, and vengeance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #13 June 29, 2012 The climate science squelching law actually requires climate predictions to based upon historical data. I know, I know. Using historical data does things like invalidate predictions that Missoula faces grave risk of intense hurricanes in 2100. I know, history doesn't suggest it, but I'm sure I can come up with forecasts and models that show it happening. Anybody else feel outraged at making predictions based on past events? I predict at least one lake effect blizzard every two years rolling off of Lake Okeechobee by 2050. No, don't look at historical data. We must act now to manage this coming climate. Note: check this site out: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends.shtml[url] Take a look at where the sea level is rising. Oh, it's massive in Louisiana. Because the land is SINKING. Sea level rising is but a minor part of it. The sea level isn't RISING where these tide gauges are. The tide gauges are sinking. (The Titanic has a massive sea level rise 100 years ago. Sea level rose a couple of miles in a couple of hours. WOW!) Next thing you know, NC will pass a law that says inundation forecasts must take land subsidence into account. Thus being ANTI-CLIMATE SCIENCE!! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #14 June 29, 2012 >Anybody else feel outraged at making predictions based on past events? ?? No. Most people do. I bet you even make raise and firing decisions based on past performance, not what you imagine the person will do in the future. >Take a look at where the sea level is rising. Oh, it's massive in Louisiana. Because the >land is SINKING. Sea level rising is but a minor part of it. Right. That's what the web page says. Did you read it? >Next thing you know, NC will pass a law that says inundation forecasts must take land >subsidence into account. Thus being ANTI-CLIMATE SCIENCE!! Uh - are you OK? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #15 June 29, 2012 Give him a break, he just had a baby. His hormones are still out of whack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
