Coreece 190 #51 June 24, 2012 QuoteIF you were so irresponsible as to knock up some poor unsuspecting girl Lo f'ing LYour secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #52 June 24, 2012 Quote Quote IF you were so irresponsible as to knock up some poor unsuspecting girl Lo f'ing L Right, like I was secretly knocking her up but she never suspected anything. Shhhhhhh......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #53 June 24, 2012 Quote Quote Quote IF you were so irresponsible as to knock up some poor unsuspecting girl Lo f'ing L Right, like I was secretly knocking her up but she never suspected anything. Shhhhhhh......... I need to find me one of these sweet innocent broads...kinda gettin tired of these evil atheistic bitches telling me "You ain't shit, ain't ever gonna be shit, you're never around, you're a terrible father...all you're good at is fucking." that really messed my head when I heard that, lol...I didn't know what to think...I always considered her a liar.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #54 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI only ask because recently someone told me that they trusted women to make the right decision regarding abortion. It occurred to be that if their judgement was so poor that they didn't use proper protection, were they really in the best position to make a life and death decision on whether they should abort an unborn child? I certainly wouldn't trust a (theoretically) celibate Catholic priest or bishop with that decision. However, it really isn't any of my business, OR YOURS EITHER, what a woman does with her own body. If she was pregnant with my child it would be. Just how many women have you knocked up, to make it generally your business to dictate what women do with their bodies?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #55 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuotePerhap. Still doesn't mean it would be none of my business. No one said it wouldn't concern you, but would you, IF you were so irresponsible as to knock up some poor unsuspecting girl, want someone other than you two, to determine what should be done? Would you hold her body hostage until "your" heir was born? Your original question to me seemed to indicate that there was some sort of litmus test as to determine responsible/worthy behavior. I never made any such claim. I was responding to kallends statement that "it is none of my business". The question is, do you think someone who has shown bad judgement is, in most cases the best person to be making life and death decisions? Would you continue to use a parachute packer who had shown poor judgement and packed a few streamers or had just packed a horseshoe malfunction? Anyone who believes in invisible omnipotent friends despite a complete absence of evidence shows bad judgment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #56 June 24, 2012 QuoteIf she was pregnant with my child it would be.True dat. Then you should discuss it with her. If you disagree, then one of you is going to be unhappy with the result. Or do you screw the type of woman who might get pregnant irresponsibly and then hold you hostage? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #57 June 24, 2012 QuoteAnyone who believes in invisible omnipotent friends despite a complete absence of evidence shows bad judgment. I much like Jefferson's stance on the religions of others. However, I will offer this: Anyone who insults the majority of the world population for no more reason than to be insulting shows bad judgment.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #58 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePerhap. Still doesn't mean it would be none of my business. No one said it wouldn't concern you, but would you, IF you were so irresponsible as to knock up some poor unsuspecting girl, want someone other than you two, to determine what should be done? Would you hold her body hostage until "your" heir was born? Your original question to me seemed to indicate that there was some sort of litmus test as to determine responsible/worthy behavior. I never made any such claim. I was responding to kallends statement that "it is none of my business". The question is, do you think someone who has shown bad judgement is, in most cases the best person to be making life and death decisions? Would you continue to use a parachute packer who had shown poor judgement and packed a few streamers or had just packed a horseshoe malfunction? Anyone who believes in invisible omnipotent friends despite a complete absence of evidence shows bad judgment. I have no idea why you think this has anything to do with this discussion. Is this similar to your tourettes like "Bush lied" rants where you just regurgitate some non-sequitor blather? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #59 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI only ask because recently someone told me that they trusted women to make the right decision regarding abortion. It occurred to be that if their judgement was so poor that they didn't use proper protection, were they really in the best position to make a life and death decision on whether they should abort an unborn child? I certainly wouldn't trust a (theoretically) celibate Catholic priest or bishop with that decision. However, it really isn't any of my business, OR YOURS EITHER, what a woman does with her own body. If she was pregnant with my child it would be. Just how many women have you knocked up, to make it generally your business to dictate what women do with their bodies? Pretty cold-hearted to make such a statement. Of course it's my business. She may have the legal right to make the ultimate decision but to say it's none of the males business shows a pretty startling disregard for a mans emotions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #60 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteIf she was pregnant with my child it would be.True dat. Then you should discuss it with her. If you disagree, then one of you is going to be unhappy with the result. Or do you screw the type of woman who might get pregnant irresponsibly and then hold you hostage? Wendy P. I don't know how this became about me. I simply stated that it is a males business if a woman gets pregnant. I think the responses by some in this thread demonstrate a very cold disregard for human feelings. i find this very sad that some peoples thinking is this cold and sterile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #61 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteAnyone who believes in invisible omnipotent friends despite a complete absence of evidence shows bad judgment. I much like Jefferson's stance on the religions of others. However, I will offer this: Anyone who insults the majority of the world population for no more reason than to be insulting shows bad judgment. Actually, I think it shows how small minded and shallow some people can be in their thinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #62 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI only ask because recently someone told me that they trusted women to make the right decision regarding abortion. It occurred to be that if their judgement was so poor that they didn't use proper protection, were they really in the best position to make a life and death decision on whether they should abort an unborn child? I certainly wouldn't trust a (theoretically) celibate Catholic priest or bishop with that decision. However, it really isn't any of my business, OR YOURS EITHER, what a woman does with her own body. If she was pregnant with my child it would be. Just how many women have you knocked up, to make it generally your business to dictate what women do with their bodies? Pretty cold-hearted to make such a statement. Of course it's my business. She may have the legal right to make the ultimate decision but to say it's none of the males business shows a pretty startling disregard for a mans emotions. This thread isn't specifically about you and the women you have knocked up. It is about the general attack on women and their control over their own bodies by busybodies like you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #63 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteAnyone who believes in invisible omnipotent friends despite a complete absence of evidence shows bad judgment. I much like Jefferson's stance on the religions of others. However, I will offer this: Anyone who insults the majority of the world population for no more reason than to be insulting shows bad judgment. When the people with invisible friends stop trying to force their morality on everyone else, then I'll stop insulting them. Until then, they're fair game.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #64 June 24, 2012 I'll admit I threw that last sentence in for effect. The meat is in the first sentence. If they man and woman disagree about an unplanned pregnancy, someone is going to be unhappy. We can legislate it to where the man always gets what he wants (of course, that means there are automatically physical or financial costs for the woman), or the woman always gets what she wants (which means there there is either an emotional or monetary cost for the man). Or we can leave the issue up to a discussion between them, and assume that one of them is going to be unhappy with the result, and let them deal with it. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #65 June 24, 2012 Best thing I've ever heard you say John. I don't go knocking door to door to try and convince someone there is no invisible magic being. I don't stand on street corners screaming in people's faces about this invisible guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #66 June 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI only ask because recently someone told me that they trusted women to make the right decision regarding abortion. It occurred to be that if their judgement was so poor that they didn't use proper protection, were they really in the best position to make a life and death decision on whether they should abort an unborn child? I certainly wouldn't trust a (theoretically) celibate Catholic priest or bishop with that decision. However, it really isn't any of my business, OR YOURS EITHER, what a woman does with her own body. If she was pregnant with my child it would be. Just how many women have you knocked up, to make it generally your business to dictate what women do with their bodies? Pretty cold-hearted to make such a statement. Of course it's my business. She may have the legal right to make the ultimate decision but to say it's none of the males business shows a pretty startling disregard for a mans emotions. This thread isn't specifically about you and the women you have knocked up. It is about the general attack on women and their control over their own bodies by busybodies like you. You obviously have no idea what my views on abortion are or you wouldn't make such a blatantly ignorant statement. But I forget how you like to pigeon-hole people. It makes life easier and less stressful when you can think inside a box. Perhaps next time you should know what you are talking about before you insert your foot in your mouth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #67 June 24, 2012 Your posting record speaks for itself. No need to assume anything.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #68 June 24, 2012 Quote Your posting record speaks for itself. No need to assume anything. Your failing memory speaks for itself. Show where I've stated my views on abortion. <...starting tap dance music...><...preparing for non-sequitor rantings...><..preparing for abrupt change of subject...><...preparing for personal insult..>That should about cover your normal weaseling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #69 June 24, 2012 You keep insisting that this issue is about controlling women and religion. It isn't. It's about whether there is a child about to get killed or a mass of cells about to be removed. The connection to women is created by nature. That many who want to protect the child / potential child are religious does not make it a religious issue. Attacking people based on their religion is not viable debate. Attacking people claiming they want to control women is not viable debate. You are trying to change the subject to something emotional and only tangentially related.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #70 June 24, 2012 QuoteWhen the people with invisible friends stop trying to force their morality on everyone else, then I'll stop insulting them. Until then, they're fair game. Sounds similar to: "When black people stop destroying my city and jews stop ripping me off, I'll stop insulting them. Until then, they're fair game...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #71 June 24, 2012 QuoteBest thing I've ever heard you say John. I don't go knocking door to door to try and convince someone there is no invisible magic being. I don't stand on street corners screaming in people's faces about this invisible guy. But most religious don't go door to door or scream on the street corners...and every Mormon or JW that came to my house was very respectful. Christians really aren't supposed to "judge" those outside the faith anyway, only those who identify as being christian: "I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #72 June 24, 2012 QuoteYou keep insisting that this issue is about controlling women and religion. It isn't. It's about whether there is a child about to get killed or a mass of cells about to be removed. The connection to women is created by nature. That many who want to protect the child / potential child are religious does not make it a religious issue. Attacking people based on their religion is not viable debate. Attacking people claiming they want to control women is not viable debate. You are trying to change the subject to something emotional and only tangentially related. I don't get all of this about Christians shoving their religion down peoples throats. I never experienced this. Most Christians I know or have met have been pretty respectful. On the rare occasion one has gotten a little carried away, a simple "lets not discuss religion or politics" was sufficient to change the subject. I don't doubt that many get a little over enthusiastic at times but certainly a lot less than most skydivers, gushing about jumping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #73 June 25, 2012 Thanks for proving m point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #74 June 25, 2012 QuoteQuoteWhen the people with invisible friends stop trying to force their morality on everyone else, then I'll stop insulting them. Until then, they're fair game. Sounds similar to: "When black people stop destroying my city and jews stop ripping me off, I'll stop insulting them. Until then, they're fair game... So what's your point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #75 June 25, 2012 Quote Anyone who believes in invisible omnipotent friends despite a complete absence of evidence shows bad judgment. Anyone who asks for evidence of an invisible omnipotent friend shows no judgement at all AND an inability to understand why that is.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
