rushmc 23 #51 June 26, 2012 QuoteQuoteObamas war Seriously? It's America's war. Ya, I guess that is what the media thinks when a Democrat is in office But it was different when Bush was"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #52 June 26, 2012 No, it was America's war then, too. And you think Obama supporters are unpatriotic. Look in the mirror. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #53 June 26, 2012 Quote No, it was America's war then, too. And you think Obama supporters are unpatriotic. Look in the mirror. My comments had nothing to do with patriotism It had nothing to do with Obama It had everything to do with the media and how they support one side and not the other You can't argue how big a big deal was made about the 2000 dead when Bush was in office now can you Now, when it reached that sad mark last week did we get the same big deal reports? No When Bush was in office and still today it was Bush's war as far as the left was concerned. Now it is not as big a deal with a Dem in office (who does not matter) Clinton bombed a factory, not a big deal. Bush responded to something and he is a war criminal So again you come out swinging Ok I dont care, but your blind attitude toward me makes you take shot at me Maybe I hit too close to home I dont really know"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #54 June 26, 2012 The media didn't call it "Obama's war" in a recent post on dropzone.com. You did. And it doesn't matter to the dead soldiers which man was in office when they died. They are still dead. They weren't fighting for Bush or Obama, they were fighting for their country. I agree that the media is not reporting on the war in Afghanistan like they should, but I'm not sure it's because Obama is in office. They report on what people want to hear about. Right now it's the economy, so that's all they talk about. Both sides are the same. Is Fox spending a lot of time on the war? No, they're spending most of their time reporting on the economy. It's not a left vs. right thing, it's a shitty reporting thing. BTW, NPR does quite a bit of reporting on Afghanistan. Their reports tend to be about the big picture, not just counting the dead, but they aren't ignoring the issue like some outlets. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #55 June 26, 2012 QuoteThe media didn't call it "Obama's war" in a recent post on dropzone.com. You did.My point exactly, they didnt. The media and the poster to whom I replied DID talk about Bush's war And it doesn't matter to the dead soldiers which man was in office when they died. They are still dead. They weren't fighting for Bush or Obama, they were fighting for their country.To anyone who is fair. But again, the media and the poster to whom I replied did I agree that the media is not reporting on the war in Afghanistan like they should, but I'm not sure it's because Obama is in office. They report on what people want to hear about. Right now it's the economy, so that's all they talk about. Both sides are the same. Is Fox spending a lot of time on the war? No, they're spending most of their time reporting on the economy. It's not a left vs. right thing, it's a shitty reporting thing. BTW, NPR does quite a bit of reporting on Afghanistan. Their reports tend to be about the big picture, not just counting the dead, but they aren't ignoring the issue like some outlets. But the media DID count the dead when Bush was in office now didnt they Now, go attack someone else"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #56 June 26, 2012 Quote But the media DID count the dead when Bush was in office now didnt they For a few reasons. 1- the war was new and people were not yet weary of X thousands. 2- Bush made Iraq happen. Without a lot of selling (some of it overstated goods), we wouldn't have been there in the first place. Many of those who count and report the dead believe it to be an unjust war. 3- Obama had substantially less freedom on the subject - the country was entangled in both wars. Same way Clinton got stuck with Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 891 #57 June 26, 2012 BOTH sides should see this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #58 June 26, 2012 QuoteQuote But the media DID count the dead when Bush was in office now didnt they For a few reasons. 1- the war was new and people were not yet weary of X thousands. 2- Bush made Iraq happen. Without a lot of selling (some of it overstated goods), we wouldn't have been there in the first place. Many of those who count and report the dead believe it to be an unjust war. 3- Obama had substantially less freedom on the subject - the country was entangled in both wars. Same way Clinton got stuck with Somalia. Nothing you post here is an excuse for the bs the media is"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #59 June 26, 2012 Quote Nothing you post here is an excuse for the bs the media is listen to me playing the world's smallest violin. Reality check - the media bias you fear and disdain is far less significant than you think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #60 June 27, 2012 QuoteQuote Nothing you post here is an excuse for the bs the media is listen to me playing the world's smallest violin. Reality check - the media bias you fear and disdain is far less significant than you think. I don't think George Zimmerman would agree...Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #61 June 27, 2012 QuoteQuote Nothing you post here is an excuse for the bs the media is listen to me playing the world's smallest violin. Reality check - the media bias you fear and disdain is far less significant than you think. Your opinion"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #62 June 27, 2012 QuoteQuote Nothing you post here is an excuse for the bs the media is listen to me playing the world's smallest violin. Reality check - the media bias you fear and disdain is far less significant than you think. Those who have been in the industry for years are starting to speak out as well ***Katie Couric’s former producer who has worked in the mainstream media in New York and Washington for 26 years wrote a scathing blog post last week denouncing NBC News, writing he could not defend the organization anymore from accusations of liberal bias. Deacon Greg Kandra, who has won Emmy and Peabody Awards, said that he used to defend mainstream media organizations from these sorts of accusations. But after NBC News edited George Zimmerman’s 911 tapes to make him look like a racist and again misled its viewers by editing a campaign appearance in Pennsylvania by Mitt Romney to make him look out of touch, Kandra has had enough. “I’ve grown weary of trying to defend the indefensible and explain the inexplicable,” Kandra wrote, noting that he had for years told people to calm down when they “stomped their feet and pounded their fists” while snorting “liberal media bias!” Kandra said he could not believe Andrea Mitchell, who aired the edited Romney tape and joked about it with The Washington Post’s Chris Cilizza, “failed to acknowledge what the ‘criticism’ entailed” and “neglected to point out how the editing misrepresented the event being covered,” while offering “nothing resembling an apology or an admission of responsibility for something that was, as a matter of fact, irresponsible.” Mitchell’s failure to apologize to her audience seems to have been the last straw for Kandra, who then wrote: Forget it. I’m done. You deserve what they’re saying about you. It’s earned. You have worked long and hard to merit the suspicion, acrimony, mistrust and revulsion that the media-buying public increasingly heaps upon you. You have successfully eroded any confidence, dispelled any trust, and driven your audience into the arms of the Internet and the blogosphere, where biases are affirmed and like-minded people can tell each other what they hold to be true, since nobody believes in objective reality any more. You have done a superlative job of diminishing what was once a great profession and undermining one of the vital underpinnings of democracy, a free press. Good job. I just have one question: What the hell is wrong with you guys? That is a question many have been asking of NBC, an organization that even omitted the most damning evidence against convicted child abuser Jerry Sandusky in a much-touted and now infamous interview conducted last November."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 891 #63 June 27, 2012 Anybody else listening to this horse shit the white house is spewing???? ummm...wow. So it's not about illegal gun running and the killing of a Border Patrol Agent. It's just politics. So the White House is giving it's stamp of approval on illegally and secretly running illegal arms in an effort to pass more gun control laws with a total disregard for American lives. Bullshit. Utter bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #64 June 27, 2012 Quote Anybody else listening to this horse shit the white house is spewing???? ummm...wow. So it's not about illegal gun running and the killing of a Border Patrol Agent. It's just politics. So the White House is giving it's stamp of approval on illegally and secretly running illegal arms in an effort to pass more gun control laws with a total disregard for American lives. Bullshit. Utter bullshit. I wish I did not have to listen"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #65 June 27, 2012 Quote QuoteKatie Couric’s former producer who has worked in the mainstream media in New York and Washington for 26 years wrote a scathing blog post last week denouncing NBC News, writing he could not defend the organization anymore from accusations of liberal bias. Yes, NBC is bad. Long history of it. MSNBC is the primary arm of this. Now how does that differ in any way from Fox? Media does not equal NBC or NBC and Fox. It's a lot bigger. And it's primarily profit minded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites