Andy9o8 3 #26 June 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote Of the 26 Civil Rights Legislation since 1933, Republicans have supported them 96% of the time and Democrats have opposed then 80% of the time. which might mean something were it not for the fact that most of those "Democrats" changed affiliation to become the Republicans of today. Claiming to be part of Lincoln's Republican party is a bit of an insult to reality. Hey, did you know the founding fathers were all really subjects of King George? I find it hilarious when current Republicans claim Lincoln as one of their own as if the philosophy of the party hasn't changed wildly since that time. The same idea also makes me giggle about Reagan, somebody who would be thrown out of today's Republican party. In Barry Goldwater's final years, he and Bob Dole agreed in amazement that the current GOP leadership, for whom they had zero respect, and who Goldwater thought was a bunch of nuts, would consider them to be liberals! True story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #27 June 11, 2012 Bob Dole thought Hillary Care was 'fine'. He would support it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #28 June 11, 2012 QuoteQuote Of the 26 Civil Rights Legislation since 1933, Republicans have supported them 96% of the time and Democrats have opposed then 80% of the time. which might mean something were it not for the fact that most of those "Democrats" changed affiliation to become the Republicans of today. /Quote You do realize that the Civil Rights Act was voted on in 1964 and Nixon didn't run for President until 1968. So much for Nixon capturing the Southern democrats. Funny, I don't recall George Wallace becoming a Republican. October 13, 1858 During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democratic Party’s 1860 presidential nominee April 16, 1862 President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no July 17, 1862 Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free” January 31, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition April 8, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition November 22, 1865 Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination February 5, 1866 U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves April 9, 1866 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law May 10, 1866 U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no June 8, 1866 U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no January 8, 1867 Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C. July 19, 1867 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans March 30, 1868 Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men” September 12, 1868 Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and 24 other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress October 7, 1868 Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule” October 22, 1868 While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan December 10, 1869 Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office February 3, 1870 After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race May 31, 1870 President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights June 22, 1870 Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South September 6, 1870 Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell February 28, 1871 Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters April 20, 1871 Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans October 10, 1871 Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands October 18, 1871 After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan November 18, 1872 Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight” January 17, 1874 Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government September 14, 1874 Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed March 1, 1875 Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition January 10, 1878 U.S. Senator Aaron Sargent (R-CA) introduces Susan B. Anthony amendment for women’s suffrage; Democrat-controlled Senate defeated it 4 times before election of Republican House and Senate guaranteed its approval in 1919. Republicans foil Democratic efforts to keep women in the kitchen, where they belong February 8, 1894 Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote January 15, 1901 Republican Booker T. Washington protests Alabama Democratic Party’s refusal to permit voting by African-Americans May 29, 1902 Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86% February 12, 1909 On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP May 21, 1919 Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no August 18, 1920 Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures January 26, 1922 House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster June 2, 1924 Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans October 3, 1924 Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention June 12, 1929 First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country August 17, 1937 Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation June 24, 1940 Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it September 30, 1953 Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education November 25, 1955 Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel March 12, 1956 Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation June 5, 1956 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law November 6, 1956 African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President September 9, 1957 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act September 24, 1957 Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools May 6, 1960 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats May 2, 1963 Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights September 29, 1963 Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School June 9, 1964 Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate June 10, 1964 Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed. August 4, 1965 Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose. Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor February 19, 1976 President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII September 15, 1981 President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs June 29, 1982 President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act August 10, 1988 President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR November 21, 1991 President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation August 20, 1996 Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law. And let's also not forget that Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #29 June 11, 2012 And let’s not forget the words of liberal icon Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood… We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population…. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #30 June 11, 2012 Richard Nixon was also a proponent of Civil Rights; it was a CA colleague who urged Ike to appoint Warren to the Supreme Court; he was a supporter of Brown v. Board, and favored sending troops to integrate Little Rock High). Nixon saw he could develop a “Southern strategy” based on Goldwater’s inroads. He did, but Independent Democrat George Wallace carried most of the deep south in 68. By 1972, however, Wallace was shot and paralyzed, and Nixon began to tilt the south to the GOP. The old guard Democrats began to fade away while a new generation of Southern politicians became Republicans. True, Strom Thurmond switched to GOP, but most of the old timers (Fulbright, Gore, Wallace, Byrd etc etc) retired as Dems. Why did a new generation white Southerners join the GOP? Not because they thought Republicans were racists who would return the South to segregation, but because the GOP was a “local government, small government” party in the old Jeffersonian tradition. Southerners wanted less government and the GOP was their natural home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #31 June 11, 2012 Ok, wanna have fun? Who said this and when? Quote I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. My understanding is that I can just let her alone.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #32 June 11, 2012 There's no doubt Lincoln was a white supremist but he still believed blacks were human beings and deserved their freedom. At one time in his life, he believed blacks should be sent back to Africa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wolfriverjoe 1,523 #33 June 11, 2012 QuoteOk, wanna have fun? Who said this and when? Quote I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. My understanding is that I can just let her alone. Lincoln? I don't know when, but I do know he was a pretty devoted whte sepratist. He was very strongly in favor of shipping all the freed slaves back to Africa. The nation of Liberia was created for that purpose (althoug I don't know how much Lincoln had to do with it before he was assassinated)"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 3 #34 June 11, 2012 QuoteRichard Nixon was also a proponent of Civil Rights; it was a CA colleague who urged Ike to appoint Warren to the Supreme Court; he was a supporter of Brown v. Board, and favored sending troops to integrate Little Rock High). Nixon saw he could develop a “Southern strategy” based on Goldwater’s inroads. He did, but Independent Democrat George Wallace carried most of the deep south in 68. By 1972, however, Wallace was shot and paralyzed, and Nixon began to tilt the south to the GOP. The old guard Democrats began to fade away while a new generation of Southern politicians became Republicans. True, Strom Thurmond switched to GOP, but most of the old timers (Fulbright, Gore, Wallace, Byrd etc etc) retired as Dems. Why did a new generation white Southerners join the GOP? Not because they thought Republicans were racists who would return the South to segregation, but because the GOP was a “local government, small government” party in the old Jeffersonian tradition. Southerners wanted less government and the GOP was their natural home. Plagiarized without attribution, which is not surprising; but still makes the point that all those fascists, cross-burners and nigger-lynchers in the South on the True Evil side of the civil rights war were really Republicans at heart. Those that remained technically registered as Dems did so only out of the expediency of a strict 2-party system that kept them, individually, in positions of power as long as their nominal party remained in the majority. The closest thing to a non-parliamentary coalition government this country has had. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #35 June 11, 2012 No it doesn't. QuoteStrom Thurmond switched to GOP, but most of the old timers (Fulbright, Gore, Wallace, Byrd etc etc) retired as Dems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 3 #36 June 11, 2012 Does so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #37 June 11, 2012 No it doesn't. See the edit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #38 June 11, 2012 No it doesn't. See the edit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 3 #39 June 11, 2012 Does so. See my edit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 3 #40 June 11, 2012 Plus, you're repeating yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 3 #41 June 11, 2012 Plus, you're repeating yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #42 June 11, 2012 I have the hiccups. What's your excuse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #43 June 11, 2012 I have the hiccups. What's your excuse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tkhayes 348 #44 June 11, 2012 QuoteThey do not like the U.S.A. and they want to reduce its status in the world. Bullshit. Liberals, like many others, want freedom in the country. You cannot have freedom if you pass laws that take away freedom. No one wants illegal immigrants, but passing stupid laws that are unenforceable, remove other legal people's freedoms and are constitutionally invalid is not the way to do it. Has nothing to do with 'liberals' Has a lot to do with this 'silly document' called the Constitution. Hence why it is in front of the Supreme Court. Of course most right wingers will simply decide that the SC is too 'liberal' if they decide against their favor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tkhayes 348 #45 June 11, 2012 +1 - Ron is one of the biggest hypocrites I have ever had the displeasure to meet. Jesus Jesus Jesus, but let's kill, hate, destroy and bias at every chance I can.....'cause Jesus tells me I should..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #46 June 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteThey do not like the U.S.A. and they want to reduce its status in the world. Bullshit. Liberals, like many others, want freedom in the country. You cannot have freedom if you pass laws that take away freedom.Like Obamacare No one wants illegal immigrants, but passing stupid laws that are unenforceable, remove other legal people's freedoms and are constitutionally invalid is not the way to do it.And the AZ law will be upheld by the SC Has nothing to do with 'liberals' your're wrong Has a lot to do with this 'silly document' called the Constitution. Hence why it is in front of the Supreme Court.The arm of the gov I predict you will not like by the end of June this year Of course most right wingers will simply decide that the SC is too 'liberal' if they decide against their favor.Gonna be fun waiting to see this one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #47 June 11, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Andy, I feel for you. You're in for a shit storm over that post whether it's true or not. For your post to be true, one has to think what he says means something No. What I have to believe is there exists an extremely vocal set of people who react in knee-jerk fashion to any critism of certain "sacred" institutions. Whether the institution is even sacred or not isn't the issue. It's the wisdom of going into a Hells Angels biker bars and shouting at the top of your lungs, "Hey! All you pussy bikers suck." Generally it ends badly. Given your recent history of threads started I can only laugh at this post"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nigel 0 #48 June 11, 2012 I'm with Andy908 on this... seems pretty sensible to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tkhayes 348 #49 June 11, 2012 Ah yes, the philistine pig-ignorance I have come to expect. Obamacare will NOT be struck down by the SC. a small portion of it might be. Which does not dismantle the entire bill, even if the republicans will consider a small portion a total victory as they march into an election campaign. Actually at this point the Republicans need ANY sort of a small victory on ANY front to have a chance in November, given the attacks on women's rights, workers rights and the general assault on humanity while attempting to demonstrate a 'concern' for the country. Govt requires me to buy auto insurance. These are not the freedoms I speak of. The freedoms that I speak of in AZ are a move closer to a police state where people in uniforms stop innocent people on the street to ask for their 'papers' This is the country that you live in and you are willing to tolerate such moves only because you are white and feel that security. Even if it violates several parts of the Constitution that once again, you stand so staunchly on your little hill waving your American Flag and pretending to uphold the values that it represents. Good luck with that. When the stormtroopers come to your door, I want to be there to see your jaw drop and wonder what happened. At that time, at least, I will actually have the ability to go back to Canada and enjoy a free country. Assuming your stormtroopers don't stop me on the way out to let me through the 'fence they built for their 'free country' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #50 June 11, 2012 Quote Ah yes, the philistine pig-ignorance I have come to expect. Obamacare will NOT be struck down by the SC. a small portion of it might be. Which does not dismantle the entire bill, even if the republicans will consider a small portion a total victory as they march into an election campaign. Actually at this point the Republicans need ANY sort of a small victory on ANY front to have a chance in November, given the attacks on women's rights, workers rights and the general assault on humanity while attempting to demonstrate a 'concern' for the country. Govt requires me to buy auto insurance. These are not the freedoms I speak of. The freedoms that I speak of in AZ are a move closer to a police state where people in uniforms stop innocent people on the street to ask for their 'papers' This is the country that you live in and you are willing to tolerate such moves only because you are white and feel that security. Even if it violates several parts of the Constitution that once again, you stand so staunchly on your little hill waving your American Flag and pretending to uphold the values that it represents. Good luck with that. When the stormtroopers come to your door, I want to be there to see your jaw drop and wonder what happened. At that time, at least, I will actually have the ability to go back to Canada and enjoy a free country. Assuming your stormtroopers don't stop me on the way out to let me through the 'fence they built for their 'free country' Well it seems you have your time machine running given your air of confidence regarding Obamacare I can only hope you are wrong I love the pig-ignorance comment tooI guess we will find out for sure shortly Maybe starting this week huh Stand by More to come"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." 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Gravitymaster 0 #29 June 11, 2012 And let’s not forget the words of liberal icon Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood… We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population…. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #30 June 11, 2012 Richard Nixon was also a proponent of Civil Rights; it was a CA colleague who urged Ike to appoint Warren to the Supreme Court; he was a supporter of Brown v. Board, and favored sending troops to integrate Little Rock High). Nixon saw he could develop a “Southern strategy” based on Goldwater’s inroads. He did, but Independent Democrat George Wallace carried most of the deep south in 68. By 1972, however, Wallace was shot and paralyzed, and Nixon began to tilt the south to the GOP. The old guard Democrats began to fade away while a new generation of Southern politicians became Republicans. True, Strom Thurmond switched to GOP, but most of the old timers (Fulbright, Gore, Wallace, Byrd etc etc) retired as Dems. Why did a new generation white Southerners join the GOP? Not because they thought Republicans were racists who would return the South to segregation, but because the GOP was a “local government, small government” party in the old Jeffersonian tradition. Southerners wanted less government and the GOP was their natural home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #31 June 11, 2012 Ok, wanna have fun? Who said this and when? Quote I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. My understanding is that I can just let her alone.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #32 June 11, 2012 There's no doubt Lincoln was a white supremist but he still believed blacks were human beings and deserved their freedom. At one time in his life, he believed blacks should be sent back to Africa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #33 June 11, 2012 QuoteOk, wanna have fun? Who said this and when? Quote I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. My understanding is that I can just let her alone. Lincoln? I don't know when, but I do know he was a pretty devoted whte sepratist. He was very strongly in favor of shipping all the freed slaves back to Africa. The nation of Liberia was created for that purpose (althoug I don't know how much Lincoln had to do with it before he was assassinated)"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #34 June 11, 2012 QuoteRichard Nixon was also a proponent of Civil Rights; it was a CA colleague who urged Ike to appoint Warren to the Supreme Court; he was a supporter of Brown v. Board, and favored sending troops to integrate Little Rock High). Nixon saw he could develop a “Southern strategy” based on Goldwater’s inroads. He did, but Independent Democrat George Wallace carried most of the deep south in 68. By 1972, however, Wallace was shot and paralyzed, and Nixon began to tilt the south to the GOP. The old guard Democrats began to fade away while a new generation of Southern politicians became Republicans. True, Strom Thurmond switched to GOP, but most of the old timers (Fulbright, Gore, Wallace, Byrd etc etc) retired as Dems. Why did a new generation white Southerners join the GOP? Not because they thought Republicans were racists who would return the South to segregation, but because the GOP was a “local government, small government” party in the old Jeffersonian tradition. Southerners wanted less government and the GOP was their natural home. Plagiarized without attribution, which is not surprising; but still makes the point that all those fascists, cross-burners and nigger-lynchers in the South on the True Evil side of the civil rights war were really Republicans at heart. Those that remained technically registered as Dems did so only out of the expediency of a strict 2-party system that kept them, individually, in positions of power as long as their nominal party remained in the majority. The closest thing to a non-parliamentary coalition government this country has had. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #35 June 11, 2012 No it doesn't. QuoteStrom Thurmond switched to GOP, but most of the old timers (Fulbright, Gore, Wallace, Byrd etc etc) retired as Dems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #37 June 11, 2012 No it doesn't. See the edit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #38 June 11, 2012 No it doesn't. See the edit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #39 June 11, 2012 Does so. See my edit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #40 June 11, 2012 Plus, you're repeating yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #41 June 11, 2012 Plus, you're repeating yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #42 June 11, 2012 I have the hiccups. What's your excuse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #43 June 11, 2012 I have the hiccups. What's your excuse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #44 June 11, 2012 QuoteThey do not like the U.S.A. and they want to reduce its status in the world. Bullshit. Liberals, like many others, want freedom in the country. You cannot have freedom if you pass laws that take away freedom. No one wants illegal immigrants, but passing stupid laws that are unenforceable, remove other legal people's freedoms and are constitutionally invalid is not the way to do it. Has nothing to do with 'liberals' Has a lot to do with this 'silly document' called the Constitution. Hence why it is in front of the Supreme Court. Of course most right wingers will simply decide that the SC is too 'liberal' if they decide against their favor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #45 June 11, 2012 +1 - Ron is one of the biggest hypocrites I have ever had the displeasure to meet. Jesus Jesus Jesus, but let's kill, hate, destroy and bias at every chance I can.....'cause Jesus tells me I should..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #46 June 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteThey do not like the U.S.A. and they want to reduce its status in the world. Bullshit. Liberals, like many others, want freedom in the country. You cannot have freedom if you pass laws that take away freedom.Like Obamacare No one wants illegal immigrants, but passing stupid laws that are unenforceable, remove other legal people's freedoms and are constitutionally invalid is not the way to do it.And the AZ law will be upheld by the SC Has nothing to do with 'liberals' your're wrong Has a lot to do with this 'silly document' called the Constitution. Hence why it is in front of the Supreme Court.The arm of the gov I predict you will not like by the end of June this year Of course most right wingers will simply decide that the SC is too 'liberal' if they decide against their favor.Gonna be fun waiting to see this one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #47 June 11, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Andy, I feel for you. You're in for a shit storm over that post whether it's true or not. For your post to be true, one has to think what he says means something No. What I have to believe is there exists an extremely vocal set of people who react in knee-jerk fashion to any critism of certain "sacred" institutions. Whether the institution is even sacred or not isn't the issue. It's the wisdom of going into a Hells Angels biker bars and shouting at the top of your lungs, "Hey! All you pussy bikers suck." Generally it ends badly. Given your recent history of threads started I can only laugh at this post"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel 0 #48 June 11, 2012 I'm with Andy908 on this... seems pretty sensible to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #49 June 11, 2012 Ah yes, the philistine pig-ignorance I have come to expect. Obamacare will NOT be struck down by the SC. a small portion of it might be. Which does not dismantle the entire bill, even if the republicans will consider a small portion a total victory as they march into an election campaign. Actually at this point the Republicans need ANY sort of a small victory on ANY front to have a chance in November, given the attacks on women's rights, workers rights and the general assault on humanity while attempting to demonstrate a 'concern' for the country. Govt requires me to buy auto insurance. These are not the freedoms I speak of. The freedoms that I speak of in AZ are a move closer to a police state where people in uniforms stop innocent people on the street to ask for their 'papers' This is the country that you live in and you are willing to tolerate such moves only because you are white and feel that security. Even if it violates several parts of the Constitution that once again, you stand so staunchly on your little hill waving your American Flag and pretending to uphold the values that it represents. Good luck with that. When the stormtroopers come to your door, I want to be there to see your jaw drop and wonder what happened. At that time, at least, I will actually have the ability to go back to Canada and enjoy a free country. Assuming your stormtroopers don't stop me on the way out to let me through the 'fence they built for their 'free country' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #50 June 11, 2012 Quote Ah yes, the philistine pig-ignorance I have come to expect. Obamacare will NOT be struck down by the SC. a small portion of it might be. Which does not dismantle the entire bill, even if the republicans will consider a small portion a total victory as they march into an election campaign. Actually at this point the Republicans need ANY sort of a small victory on ANY front to have a chance in November, given the attacks on women's rights, workers rights and the general assault on humanity while attempting to demonstrate a 'concern' for the country. Govt requires me to buy auto insurance. These are not the freedoms I speak of. The freedoms that I speak of in AZ are a move closer to a police state where people in uniforms stop innocent people on the street to ask for their 'papers' This is the country that you live in and you are willing to tolerate such moves only because you are white and feel that security. Even if it violates several parts of the Constitution that once again, you stand so staunchly on your little hill waving your American Flag and pretending to uphold the values that it represents. Good luck with that. When the stormtroopers come to your door, I want to be there to see your jaw drop and wonder what happened. At that time, at least, I will actually have the ability to go back to Canada and enjoy a free country. Assuming your stormtroopers don't stop me on the way out to let me through the 'fence they built for their 'free country' Well it seems you have your time machine running given your air of confidence regarding Obamacare I can only hope you are wrong I love the pig-ignorance comment tooI guess we will find out for sure shortly Maybe starting this week huh Stand by More to come"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
