NM Court: Christian Business Owners Have No Rights

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So you hire a lawn care professional that has the best job history, best price and is available. He performs the service and gives you a Christian tract with your receipt. Would you hire him again?

Yup, and I may well decline the tract as throwing it away would require some effort, but I wouldn't try and shove them away with their religion. Because of tattoos I am often approached by the religious on the street where they try and teach me about things I already know.

I don't tell them to fuck off... I discuss the religion with them, my position on it, why I believe what I do. We have a debate on the reasons of verses and their desired impact, the history of it and usually at the end of a good debate we are both smiling and shake hands and part ways.

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So you hire a lawn care professional that has the best job history, best price and is available. He performs the service and gives you a Christian tract with your receipt. Would you hire him again?

Yup, and I may well decline the tract as throwing it away would require some effort, but I wouldn't try and shove them away with their religion. Because of tattoos I am often approached by the religious on the street where they try and teach me about things I already know.

I don't tell them to fuck off... I discuss the religion with them, my position on it, why I believe what I do. We have a debate on the reasons of verses and their desired impact, the history of it and usually at the end of a good debate we are both smiling and shake hands and part ways.

Well then, you are a perfect gentleman.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Marinus 0]

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So you hire a lawn care professional that has the best job history, best price and is available. He performs the service and gives you a Christian tract with your receipt. Would you hire him again?

Personally I wouldn't know why not. I would make clear that I'm not at all interested in (converting to) his religion and decline the tract, but in the end I don't really care about whatever he believes as long as he does do his job. If he insists to evangelize to me after that, that might be a problem, as I would see it as very disrespectful towards me.

In my neck of the wood it would be seen as very unprofessional to evangelize to costumers, btw.

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If the photographer believed the gay couple would disturb his customers, I believe he should have the right to protect his business.

..... but aren't the gay couple the customers?

Many Christian businesses are established to serve Christians. Christian Yellow Pages are published and marketed through churches and other Christian organizations for the purpose of maintaining trusted relationships.

Some Christians will not do business with someone who advertises as such and then does work or perform services in the secular world. Right or wrong is not the issue. It is a fact of life.

Therefore, the Christian photographer should have the right to decline the gay couple's offer. IMO

Unfortunately I have to agree this often seems to be a matter of fact, at least around here (Georgia, USA). This was brought home to me several years ago, when a woman who worked with my wife was getting married. My wife recommended a friend of hers who has a small business baking cakes, especially wedding cakes (which are really good). The co-worker thanked my wife for the suggestion, but told her there was a woman from her church who baked cakes, and it would cause "problems" for her if she passed over the person from her church to do business with an "outsider", even though the cakes weren't actually all that good. That's when I realized joining a church was a business decision; belonging to a large church immediately gave you a large client base, whereas belonging to a small church was much worse for business, and having no church at all was possibly disastrous. I wouldn't say your small business can't survive if you don't belong to a church, but for sure a big church (big in terms of members) is a significant leg up.

Anyone who thinks that in the Bible Belt the only consideration when choosing a church is theology and whether or not you like the priest/minister is missing a big part of the picture. Even if you are a closet atheist, you could look at Sunday morning (and Wednesday evening for Baptists) as necessary advertising.

Don

Can I get an AMEN!

Amen, to Southern Christians embracing a culture essentially of harlotry. Jesus associated with harlots, didn't he? Amen, brother.

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So you hire a lawn care professional that has the best job history, best price and is available. He performs the service and gives you a Christian tract with your receipt. Would you hire him again?

Yes, but only to have the chance to hit him over the head when his back was turned and throw him into an arena filled with hungry lions.

[billvon 3,090]

>Jesus was a long haired liberal hippie who despised the rich and told people to pay their taxes.

If Jesus came back today and came to the US, he'd be accused of being an evil liberal socialist, arrested as an illegal immigrant, waterboarded for being a suspected terrorist and jailed indefinitely as an "suspected illegal combatant."

We wouldn't crucify him, of course, because we're such an accepting society.

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So you hire a lawn care professional that has the best job history, best price and is available. He performs the service and gives you a Christian tract with your receipt. Would you hire him again?

Yes, but only to have the chance to hit him over the head when his back was turned and throw him into an arena filled with hungry lions.

That is support for the Christian conservative advocacy of 2nd Amendment rights along with concealed carry permits. SYG and be wary of liberal attacks from your blind side.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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And don't forget Jesus got angry and drove the local businesses out of the temple area.

Jesus said lots of things that the "Christian right" now ignores.

The point was that Jesus showed bias and prejudice toward some types of business. He also partied with sinners. Business is business, leisure is leisure, how do you choose the right path for you

Jesus was a long haired liberal hippie who despised the rich and told people to pay their taxes.

Not even close. 99% of what Jesus said, contemporary Libs couldn't stand to hear, let alone practice.

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.

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Care to elaborate?

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Libs

I'm over 50 and up until now I hadn't known a single person who uses this term who isn't a fucking moron. Congratulations! You're the first exception.

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>99% of what Jesus said, contemporary Libs couldn't stand to hear, let alone practice.

Jesus said "love your neighbor as yourself." What do you think his position would have been on illegal immigration?

Jesus said "love your enemies." What do you think his position would have been on the Iraq war?

Jesus said "But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also." What do you think his take would have been on the "stand your ground" law?

Jesus threw the retailers and the moneychangers out of the temple, and told them "My house shall be called a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves." What do you think his position was on unregulated capitalism?

Jesus said that "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven" and "Blessed are you poor, For yours is the kingdom of God." How do you think he saw the rich?

Jesus said "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." What do you think his position was on communism?

Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." What do you think he would have thought of our latest wars?

Jesus said "If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also." What do you think his position was on keeping what is yours?

Jesus wouldn't last ten minutes in the GOP today. And if he showed up the same way he did last time - as an unemployed foreigner teaching people to give up their money to the poor - he'd be lucky not to end up in jail.

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Not even close. 99% of what Jesus said, contemporary Libs couldn't stand to hear, let alone practice.

It's not like there are any Christians around that give a shit about what Jesus had to say. Yeah, the convenient parts of course, but the rest is simply ignored. Luckily Jesus forgives everything including the fact that you still didn't sell your laptop and donated the money to the poor.

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Jesus said "But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also." What do you think his take would have been on the "stand your ground" law?

Esther 9:2 - "The Jews gathered together in their cities throughout all the provinces of King Ahasuerus to lay hands on those who sought their harm."

Luke 22:36 - "Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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