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They come across, to me anyway, as imitation people. They are just examples of the enemy in cyberspace.

They just don't have much to say regarding love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness or self-control.



What do you want?


In your haste to baste, you missed proved his entire point.


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The authors of the Bible could only write what they knew. Their scientific knowledge was lacking but their spiritual knowledge was inspired by God. The purpose of the Bible is to convey spiritual Truth. Which is as intergral to reality as is scientific truths.



I think this could be said about most of the religious texts. What I find interesting is that, for most people, the one they believe is the "Truth" is largely dependent on geography.



It's really not all that interesting...scripture originated approximately 7,000 miles away and has pretty much saturated the west. I suspect it's success to the east has been thwarted somewhat due to communism.



Yeah, those Hindus are such communists.

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I posted my comment because I just felt like being an ass...



Mission accomplished!

However, I am unsure what that buys you.



I'm surprised...you of all people should know...
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They just don't have much to say regarding love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness or self-control.


Yep, so far, it's been by far and away mostly hate and derogatories with just so very few acts of decent discussion.



Enough about Ron, what about the people he's talking about?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Thank you for your learned response. I know by your articulation you have several IQ points over me. I have only been estimated as two standard deviations from the mean. I am not sure what that means.



IQ = 70 is 2 standard devs. from the mean.

In the old days, "moron" was applied to people with an IQ of 51-70



Hmmm, I understand that.

Do you think it is possible for a "moron" to obtain a graduate degree from an accredited state university?
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Thank you for your learned response. I know by your articulation you have several IQ points over me. I have only been estimated as two standard deviations from the mean. I am not sure what that means.



IQ = 70 is 2 standard devs. from the mean.

In the old days, "moron" was applied to people with an IQ of 51-70



Hmmm, I understand that.

Do you think it is possible for a "moron" to obtain a graduate degree from an accredited state university?



Al Gore is proof that an imbicile can graduate from Harvard, and G. W. Bush proves they'll give an M.B.A. to an idiot.

Likewise, I have been stunned by the dunderheads that pulled off Ph.D.s from supposedly reputable institutions.

Needless to say, I.Q. distributions vary wildly by discipline - there is a HUGE difference between people getting degrees to teach math and people becoming degreed Mathematicians, for example.

Thus, an impressive sheepskin does not rule out a profound lack of intellectual acuity - though it does make it a lot less likely.


BSBD,

Winsor

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***SNIP***

Likewise, I have been stunned by the dunderheads that pulled off Ph.D.s from supposedly reputable institutions.

***SNIP***

Thus, an impressive sheepskin does not rule out a profound lack of intellectual acuity - though it does make it a lot less likely.


BSBD,

Winsor



Waiting for kallend's reply...
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They just don't have much to say regarding love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness or self-control.



And neither do you. You seem bitter and insecure (and maybe even scared) to me, clinging on to some mantras and some claims about yourself. Claims that don't show in your posts.

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They just don't have much to say regarding love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness or self-control.



And neither do you. You seem bitter and insecure (and maybe even scared) to me, clinging on to some mantras and some claims about yourself. Claims that don't show in your posts.



Well, to be fair, Muslims don't count - so there's no need for kindness, goodness, gentleness, or self-control in that scenario. Ron has made that abundantly clear.
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They just don't have much to say regarding love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness or self-control.



And neither do you. You seem bitter and insecure (and maybe even scared) to me, clinging on to some mantras and some claims about yourself. Claims that don't show in your posts.



Well, to be fair, Muslims don't count - so there's no need for kindness, goodness, gentleness, or self-control in that scenario. Ron has made that abundantly clear.



I'll admit, I have a bit of problem with the ones that have vowed to kill me, my family and destroy my country.

I'm just trying to establish a safe family enclave in the mountains.

I believe Skyrad is a Muslim and seems to be a decent person. Back in the late 80's I jumped with a Muslim, Ali Karbaliasghar. He was an Iranian that fought against the Iraqi's. He seemed real friendly.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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>I believe Skyrad is a Muslim and seems to be a decent person. Back in the late 80's I
>jumped with a Muslim, Ali Karbaliasghar. He was an Iranian that fought against the
>Iraqi's. He seemed real friendly.

Agreed. And there are some Christians who are pretty good people as well.

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***SNIP***

Likewise, I have been stunned by the dunderheads that pulled off Ph.D.s from supposedly reputable institutions.

***SNIP***

Thus, an impressive sheepskin does not rule out a profound lack of intellectual acuity - though it does make it a lot less likely.


BSBD,

Winsor



Waiting for kallend's reply...



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It is easily demonstrated that assembling the translations of various books that comprise any version of the 'Bible' to which you refer was done for specific reasons, none of which had anything to do with truth of any kind. Veracity was but an occasional byproduct.

There are portions of the texts that are accurate, some that are wildly inaccurate, many that are heavily editecan't you get it? The Truth of God has survived all of the translations, re-translation, copying, re-copying, editing, re-editing, cultures and languages, erroneous scientific backgrounds. What we have works for those who can hear Gods call. It is a spiritual book with powerful spiritual insights. My life is proof of that. Call it want you will, in the end who gives a shit? It works as a means for communicating with God and at the end of the day that is one hell of a lot more important to me than some rhetorical chirping.d, and others that are entirely redacted.

The originals of the various scriptures were written at various times and for quite different audiences. To treat the compendium as anything close to monolithic requires a true commitment to ignorance.


BSBD,

Winsor



So what, can't you get it? The Truth of God has survived all of the translations, re-translation, copying, re-copying, editing, re-editing, cultures and languages, erroneous scientific backgrounds. What we have works for those who can hear Gods call. It is a spiritual book with powerful spiritual insights. My life is proof of that. Call it want you will, in the end who gives a shit? It works as a means for communicating with God and at the end of the day that is one hell of a lot more important to me than some rhetorical chirping.

Oh yeah and I forgot to add, Have a good day :)

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So what, can't you get it? The Truth of God has survived all of the translations, re-translation, copying, re-copying, editing, re-editing, cultures and languages, erroneous scientific backgrounds. What we have works for those who can hear Gods call. It is a spiritual book with powerful spiritual insights. My life is proof of that. Call it want you will, in the end who gives a shit? It works as a means for communicating with God and at the end of the day that is one hell of a lot more important to me than some rhetorical chirping.

Oh yeah and I forgot to add, Have a good day :)

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I get it, I get it!

In your world of make-believe, anything you deem the work of your invisible friend is the 'Truth,' regardless of how contradictory or nonsensical it is, and despite all evidence to the contrary.

This is the best you have? I'm underwhelmed.


BSBD,

Winsor

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What you are looking at is a few people saying they believe and answering questions, almost as well as can be, explaining why who what when and why they believe.

OTOH, you have the others telling they are ignorant, stupid and (insert your own dergoatory words here) for believing. Take note that none of that is about what he was saying.



A rational person would alter their beliefs according to the available evidence; yet when asked what evidence, logic or argument could sway a religious person from their beliefs, they invariably say that nothing in the world could do that, even in principle. Changing their opinion is not even an option because it is fundamentally contrary to the concept of faith. How exactly can you argue against an illogical, incoherent and downright dangerous position that absolutely cannot be swayed no matter what argument is presented? Is that not crazy?

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How exactly can you argue against an illogical, incoherent and downright dangerous position that absolutely cannot be swayed no matter what argument is presented? Is that not crazy?



It is called being convicted.

The Christian believer realizes he is a sinner condemned to spiritual death and that only God can save him. The path to God is through Jesus Christ's death on the cross.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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It's very sad that reason and critical thinking are suspended based on this mythology. Your beliefs are not rooted in reality.



They are based in spirituality.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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