deltron80 0 #1101 July 5, 2012 Your arbitrary anti-academic reflex is very fox news-like. I do think for myself, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1102 July 5, 2012 QuoteYour arbitrary anti-academic reflex is very fox news-like. I do think for myself, thanks. As shown by the reference to 'fox news-like' , I'm sure.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #1103 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuote Wake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. (Waiting for Kallend's rebuttal) Just found out today that the chairman of Barclays who just resigned is a college colleague of mine from 45 years ago. I guess he learned something useful.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1104 July 5, 2012 QuoteWake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #1105 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteWake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. No, it's not. I'm unsurprised that *you* think so, however.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1106 July 5, 2012 It's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #1107 July 5, 2012 QuoteIt's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly. Thanks for proving my point....again.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1108 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote It's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly. Thanks for proving my point....again. You're welcome. Enjoy your bliss."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #1109 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote It's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly. Thanks for proving my point....again. You're welcome. Enjoy your bliss. Yet *ANOTHER* unfounded assumption by you that I'm religious...why am I unsurprised?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1110 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote It's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly. Thanks for proving my point....again. You're welcome. Enjoy your bliss. Yet *ANOTHER* unfounded assumption by you that I'm religious...why am I unsurprised? No such assumption was made. (about you being religious, anyway)"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #1111 July 5, 2012 At the end of the day, steve's sporadic buzzing is of little consequence - nothing deet or hydrocortisone can't handle.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1112 July 5, 2012 I agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #1113 July 5, 2012 QuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? If you don't think I'm religious, why are you asking me if I 'accept evolution', Steve?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites winsor 236 #1114 July 5, 2012 QuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? I'm reminded of the interchange between a comic and the audience: "Anyone here Polish?" "I am." "Do you like Polish jokes?" "Sure." "Do you understand them?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1115 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? If you don't think I'm religious, why are you asking me if I 'accept evolution', Steve? Evolution has nothing to do with religion, Mike. It's science. Do you accept evolution?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GeorgiaDon 379 #1116 July 5, 2012 QuoteYou have me thinking and not certain if I am on the same page with you. For me, the spirit is the motivator and the soul is what is affected/effected. For example, a spirit of rebellion leads someone to choose drug use. The pleasure derived from the dopamine release then leads to continued use and possibly addiction. Addiction is physical and can be treated. Then once alleviated we are again back to the spirit of rebellion to choose again. Is this the direction you were headed? Hi Ron, I think we're not on the same page, as my concept of what is meant by "spirit" goes well beyond "motivator". Presumably the "spirit" is what survives into the "afterlife", and I doubt that many people would relish an afterlife that is inhabited by their "motivation" without any sense of self-awareness, memories, etc. I kind of assumed that what is supposed to survive (the "spirit" or "soul") would be a self-aware entity, essentially the entire personality of the individual. Talking to a "spirit" would be indistinguishable from talking to the person, right? How can you have a conversation with "motivation"? It seems to me to be a real conundrum, if the "spirit" (in the sense that I imagine it, which is the complete personality, memories, hopes, desires of the individual) is supposed to be non-physical, yet it is subject to profound alteration by physical causes such as dopamine/serotonin/whatever levels in the brain. Similarly, it is well known that physical damage to certain regions of the brain can profoundly affect impulse control, mood, memory, etc. How can physical damage to the pre-frontal cortex change something as fundamental to the "spirit" as the ability to weigh consequences of actions and choose to avoid evil actions? I had an uncle who had a malignant brain tumor removed; before the surgery he was always calm, and exceptionally considerate of everyone, but afterwards he was impulsive, abrasive, angry, a prick in a lot of ways. Completely a different person. How could removing a physical piece of someone's brain change who they are so much, if the "spirit" is not also physical? It seems to me that if the "spirit" was non-physical and just used the physical body as a device, physical disease or damage might impair functionality (such as making you blind, like removing the lens from a camera), but it wouldn't be able to change the essence of who you are. Do you have a resolution to this problem? Cheers, Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #1117 July 5, 2012 Quote I agree...what I post is of little consequence What about the part where I equated your posts to the annoyance of a culicidae or a mild case of crotch rot?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1118 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote I agree...what I post is of little consequence What about the part where I equated your posts to the annoyance of a culicidae or a mild case of crotch rot? Not so much, but I expect it from you. So, do you accept evolution?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #1119 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteWake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. And you still have no clue as to my religious leanings. Thanks for playing the mind-reading game. You are still thinking in terms of "what". You lose.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1120 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteWake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. And you still have no clue as to my religious leanings. Thanks for playing the mind-reading game. You are still thinking in terms of "what". You lose. You're right. My bad. Are you religious? Spiritual? Do you accept evolution?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #1121 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Wake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. And you still have no clue as to my religious leanings. Thanks for playing the mind-reading game. You are still thinking in terms of "what". You lose. You're right. My bad. Are you religious? Spiritual? Do you accept evolution? Nunya Babin throws a baited hook and expects somebody to bite. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #1122 July 5, 2012 Quote Your arbitrary anti-academic reflex is very fox news-like. See? Anti-academic? *WHOOOSH* Your posts are not even up to par with entertainment value, much less as any indication of thinking. Quote I do think for myself, thanks. ...as long as the prof gives a list of what to think, yes. I give up. Have fun in the forerst and do not run into the trees that are there. Conversation over.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1123 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Wake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. And you still have no clue as to my religious leanings. Thanks for playing the mind-reading game. You are still thinking in terms of "what". You lose. You're right. My bad. Are you religious? Spiritual? Do you accept evolution? Nunya Babin throws a baited hook and expects somebody to bite. No bait, just wanting to see where you stand. If it's none of my business where you stand on the issue that's fine."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #1124 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? If you don't think I'm religious, why are you asking me if I 'accept evolution', Steve? Evolution has nothing to do with religion, Mike. It's science. Do you accept evolution? The thread is about religious people accepting evolution, Steve. If you don't think I'm religious, *why* are you asking me if I 'accept evolution'?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stevebabin 0 #1125 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? If you don't think I'm religious, why are you asking me if I 'accept evolution', Steve? Evolution has nothing to do with religion, Mike. It's science. Do you accept evolution? The thread is about religious people accepting evolution, Steve. If you don't think I'm religious, *why* are you asking me if I 'accept evolution'? I simply want to know where you stand on the issue. No bait, nothing to be afraid of...if you don't want to answer, that's fine. No need for all the tap-dancing. If you don't think it's my business where you stand on the issue, that's ok."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 Next Page 45 of 57 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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stevebabin 0 #1104 July 5, 2012 QuoteWake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1105 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteWake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. No, it's not. I'm unsurprised that *you* think so, however.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1106 July 5, 2012 It's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1107 July 5, 2012 QuoteIt's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly. Thanks for proving my point....again.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1108 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote It's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly. Thanks for proving my point....again. You're welcome. Enjoy your bliss."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1109 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote It's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly. Thanks for proving my point....again. You're welcome. Enjoy your bliss. Yet *ANOTHER* unfounded assumption by you that I'm religious...why am I unsurprised?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1110 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote It's ironic because Religion doesn't teach you how to think, only what to think. If it taught you how to think, religion would become extinct pretty quickly. Thanks for proving my point....again. You're welcome. Enjoy your bliss. Yet *ANOTHER* unfounded assumption by you that I'm religious...why am I unsurprised? No such assumption was made. (about you being religious, anyway)"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1111 July 5, 2012 At the end of the day, steve's sporadic buzzing is of little consequence - nothing deet or hydrocortisone can't handle.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1112 July 5, 2012 I agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1113 July 5, 2012 QuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? If you don't think I'm religious, why are you asking me if I 'accept evolution', Steve?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #1114 July 5, 2012 QuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? I'm reminded of the interchange between a comic and the audience: "Anyone here Polish?" "I am." "Do you like Polish jokes?" "Sure." "Do you understand them?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1115 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? If you don't think I'm religious, why are you asking me if I 'accept evolution', Steve? Evolution has nothing to do with religion, Mike. It's science. Do you accept evolution?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #1116 July 5, 2012 QuoteYou have me thinking and not certain if I am on the same page with you. For me, the spirit is the motivator and the soul is what is affected/effected. For example, a spirit of rebellion leads someone to choose drug use. The pleasure derived from the dopamine release then leads to continued use and possibly addiction. Addiction is physical and can be treated. Then once alleviated we are again back to the spirit of rebellion to choose again. Is this the direction you were headed? Hi Ron, I think we're not on the same page, as my concept of what is meant by "spirit" goes well beyond "motivator". Presumably the "spirit" is what survives into the "afterlife", and I doubt that many people would relish an afterlife that is inhabited by their "motivation" without any sense of self-awareness, memories, etc. I kind of assumed that what is supposed to survive (the "spirit" or "soul") would be a self-aware entity, essentially the entire personality of the individual. Talking to a "spirit" would be indistinguishable from talking to the person, right? How can you have a conversation with "motivation"? It seems to me to be a real conundrum, if the "spirit" (in the sense that I imagine it, which is the complete personality, memories, hopes, desires of the individual) is supposed to be non-physical, yet it is subject to profound alteration by physical causes such as dopamine/serotonin/whatever levels in the brain. Similarly, it is well known that physical damage to certain regions of the brain can profoundly affect impulse control, mood, memory, etc. How can physical damage to the pre-frontal cortex change something as fundamental to the "spirit" as the ability to weigh consequences of actions and choose to avoid evil actions? I had an uncle who had a malignant brain tumor removed; before the surgery he was always calm, and exceptionally considerate of everyone, but afterwards he was impulsive, abrasive, angry, a prick in a lot of ways. Completely a different person. How could removing a physical piece of someone's brain change who they are so much, if the "spirit" is not also physical? It seems to me that if the "spirit" was non-physical and just used the physical body as a device, physical disease or damage might impair functionality (such as making you blind, like removing the lens from a camera), but it wouldn't be able to change the essence of who you are. Do you have a resolution to this problem? Cheers, Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #1117 July 5, 2012 Quote I agree...what I post is of little consequence What about the part where I equated your posts to the annoyance of a culicidae or a mild case of crotch rot?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1118 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote I agree...what I post is of little consequence What about the part where I equated your posts to the annoyance of a culicidae or a mild case of crotch rot? Not so much, but I expect it from you. So, do you accept evolution?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #1119 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteWake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. And you still have no clue as to my religious leanings. Thanks for playing the mind-reading game. You are still thinking in terms of "what". You lose.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1120 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteWake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. And you still have no clue as to my religious leanings. Thanks for playing the mind-reading game. You are still thinking in terms of "what". You lose. You're right. My bad. Are you religious? Spiritual? Do you accept evolution?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #1121 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Wake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. And you still have no clue as to my religious leanings. Thanks for playing the mind-reading game. You are still thinking in terms of "what". You lose. You're right. My bad. Are you religious? Spiritual? Do you accept evolution? Nunya Babin throws a baited hook and expects somebody to bite. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #1122 July 5, 2012 Quote Your arbitrary anti-academic reflex is very fox news-like. See? Anti-academic? *WHOOOSH* Your posts are not even up to par with entertainment value, much less as any indication of thinking. Quote I do think for myself, thanks. ...as long as the prof gives a list of what to think, yes. I give up. Have fun in the forerst and do not run into the trees that are there. Conversation over.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1123 July 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Wake up man, college is about learning how to think....not what to think. True.. Ironic coming from such a religious person, though. And you still have no clue as to my religious leanings. Thanks for playing the mind-reading game. You are still thinking in terms of "what". You lose. You're right. My bad. Are you religious? Spiritual? Do you accept evolution? Nunya Babin throws a baited hook and expects somebody to bite. No bait, just wanting to see where you stand. If it's none of my business where you stand on the issue that's fine."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #1124 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? If you don't think I'm religious, why are you asking me if I 'accept evolution', Steve? Evolution has nothing to do with religion, Mike. It's science. Do you accept evolution? The thread is about religious people accepting evolution, Steve. If you don't think I'm religious, *why* are you asking me if I 'accept evolution'?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #1125 July 5, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI agree...what I post is of little consequence. Coreece, do you accept evolution? How about you, Mike? If you don't think I'm religious, why are you asking me if I 'accept evolution', Steve? Evolution has nothing to do with religion, Mike. It's science. Do you accept evolution? The thread is about religious people accepting evolution, Steve. If you don't think I'm religious, *why* are you asking me if I 'accept evolution'? I simply want to know where you stand on the issue. No bait, nothing to be afraid of...if you don't want to answer, that's fine. No need for all the tap-dancing. If you don't think it's my business where you stand on the issue, that's ok."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
