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In the civil divorce, US law is used. But if you're religious, you also use religious law. Catholic women can get divorced by law, but are supposed to get an anullment or a dispensation from the Pope to remarry within the church.

Dang -- and they're Christians!!!:o

Wendy P.



When a gender is looked at as less than equal under a law, I have a problem with that

Sharia is a law that is used to govern and it treats women badly


wasn't there a law that was struck down in misouri recently that was to ban Sharia law from being used in the states courts, wouldn't that open the door for it to be used in the courts?

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In the civil divorce, US law is used. But if you're religious, you also use religious law. Catholic women can get divorced by law, but are supposed to get an anullment or a dispensation from the Pope to remarry within the church.

Dang -- and they're Christians!!!:o

Wendy P.



When a gender is looked at as less than equal under a law, I have a problem with that

Sharia is a law that is used to govern and it treats women badly


wasn't there a law that was struck down in misouri recently that was to ban Sharia law from being used in the states courts, wouldn't that open the door for it to be used in the courts?


I do not remember which state but yes

Since it listed Sharia specifically the court struck it down under a church and start argument
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I guess you think that a divorce court chould use sharia law in the us proceeding

You really support wormen huh........



I think it's legal as so far as adults can choose different types of arbitration that all parties agree to.

If you already know my feelings on religion, why would you even ask?



All I can do is go on what you post here

Your posts indicate you are ok with women being submitted to the sharia

I think more of them than that



Can you please cite any of my post where I am ok with women being submitted to sharia law? If a women of legal age agrees to have her divoriced hashed out using sharia mediation, who am I to stop her.

I have no doubt that you think more of women than they do, the qestion is how much.

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I guess you think that a divorce court chould use sharia law in the us proceeding

You really support wormen huh........



I think it's legal as so far as adults can choose different types of arbitration that all parties agree to.

If you already know my feelings on religion, why would you even ask?



All I can do is go on what you post here

Your posts indicate you are ok with women being submitted to the sharia

I think more of them than that



Can you please cite any of my post where I am ok with women being submitted to sharia law? If a women of legal age agrees to have her divoriced hashed out using sharia mediation, who am I to stop her.

I have no doubt that you think more of women than they do, the qestion is how much.



I have no idea if you have stated directly that women should be submitted to sharia

But you are ok with a Judge striking down a vote of the people that made it illegal to use in a US court
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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But you are ok with a Judge striking down a vote of the people that made it illegal to use in a US court

If the people want something that is against the intent of the constitution, then they need to go to the effort of changing the constitution.

Judges are paid to interpret the constitution, and then, in that context, determine whether the laws fit it. Trying to fit the laws into the constitution is backwards, and wrong. You can always find a way justify something that you want. It's much harder to determine if it's really justifiable.

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But you are ok with a Judge striking down a vote of the people that made it illegal to use in a US court

If the people want something that is against the intent of the constitution, then they need to go to the effort of changing the constitution.

Judges are paid to interpret the constitution, and then, in that context, determine whether the laws fit it. Trying to fit the laws into the constitution is backwards, and wrong. You can always find a way justify something that you want. It's much harder to determine if it's really justifiable.

Wendy P.



Which did not happen here


and the really big question is why would a judge use law other than us law in a us court anyway?

If it were not for those bone heads the vote would have not been needed

If you want to see why this is of concern just research what is happening across the pond
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I guess you think that a divorce court chould use sharia law in the us proceeding

You really support wormen huh........



I think it's legal as so far as adults can choose different types of arbitration that all parties agree to.

If you already know my feelings on religion, why would you even ask?



All I can do is go on what you post here

Your posts indicate you are ok with women being submitted to the sharia

I think more of them than that



Can you please cite any of my post where I am ok with women being submitted to sharia law? If a women of legal age agrees to have her divoriced hashed out using sharia mediation, who am I to stop her.

I have no doubt that you think more of women than they do, the qestion is how much.



I have no idea if you have stated directly that women should be submitted to sharia

But you are ok with a Judge striking down a vote of the people that made it illegal to use in a US court



All because I beleive consenting adults can agree to any type of arbitration they like, does not mean I condone it.

I don't like the way the Duggars are raising their little zealots, but hey, in this country you have the right to believe in what ever you want.

The Muslum's don't have a manopoly when it comes to religion and arbitration.

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Arbitration – A more formal review of the positions of each party held under mutually respectful conditions leading to a binding decision by a Christian arbitrator. These decisions have the force of law.



http://christianmediationservicesllc.com/


So is there anyone voting to ban Christian arbitration?

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I guess you think that a divorce court chould use sharia law in the us proceeding

You really support wormen huh........



I think it's legal as so far as adults can choose different types of arbitration that all parties agree to.

If you already know my feelings on religion, why would you even ask?



All I can do is go on what you post here

Your posts indicate you are ok with women being submitted to the sharia

I think more of them than that



Can you please cite any of my post where I am ok with women being submitted to sharia law? If a women of legal age agrees to have her divoriced hashed out using sharia mediation, who am I to stop her.

I have no doubt that you think more of women than they do, the qestion is how much.



I have no idea if you have stated directly that women should be submitted to sharia

But you are ok with a Judge striking down a vote of the people that made it illegal to use in a US court



All because I beleive consenting adults can agree to any type of arbitration they like, does not mean I condone it.

I don't like the way the Duggars are raising their little zealots, but hey, in this country you have the right to believe in what ever you want.

The Muslum's don't have a manopoly when it comes to religion and arbitration.

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Arbitration – A more formal review of the positions of each party held under mutually respectful conditions leading to a binding decision by a Christian arbitrator. These decisions have the force of law.



http://christianmediationservicesllc.com/


So is there anyone voting to ban Christian arbitration?



I would

Again, unless that is what both parties want
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>Kansas has become a women friendly state

Yep. To many in the right, "taking away your rights" is "being friendly."

I hear many states are getting very "friendly" towards gun owners - California in particular.



So, requiring us courts to use us law is taking away rights

That is a big twist

Even for you
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Kansas has become a women friendly state

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/kansas-sharia-law-ban/2012/05/25/id/440342

***Kansas Governor Signs Bill Effectively Banning Shariah



Dude, seriously, you need to get over this one, you are way off base on this whole Sharia law is coming to get us thing. try and be objective in your quest for the truth

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1.free of bias: free of any bias or prejudice caused by personal feelings
2.based on facts: based on facts rather than thoughts or opinions
3.observable: describes disease symptoms that can be observed by somebody other than the person who is ill



I have seen you, from time to time make very good points in laying out your case in theses forums (perhaps not many, but some none the less) you are really heading in the wrong direction on this one. Also google "Confirmation bias" You have a bad case of it.

Edited to correct spelling so I dont look like a taotal lop

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Kansas has become a women friendly state

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/kansas-sharia-law-ban/2012/05/25/id/440342

***Kansas Governor Signs Bill Effectively Banning Shariah



Dude, seriously, you need to get over this one, you are way off base on this whole Sharia law is coming to get us thing. try and be objective in your quest for the truth

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1.free of bias: free of any bias or prejudice caused by personal feelings
2.based on facts: based on facts rather than thoughts or opinions
3.observable: describes disease symptoms that can be observed by somebody other than the person who is ill



I have seen you, from time to time make very good points in laying out your case in theses forums (perhaps no many, but some none the less) you are really heading in the wrong direction on this one. Also google "Confirmation bias" You have a bad case of it.



Expecting us judges to use us law in us courts is a bad thing?

How so?
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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See it every day over here.

The War On Women (Foreign Policy Magazine Online)

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Very interesting article. It explains quite a few things about an Egyptian woman I used to date years ago. She was beautiful...but man, she had so much cultural baggage it was sad, and it really held her back in a lot of ways.

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>Kansas has become a women friendly state

Yep. To many in the right, "taking away your rights" is "being friendly."

I hear many states are getting very "friendly" towards gun owners - California in particular.



So, requiring us courts to use us law is taking uaway rights

That is a big twist

Even for you


I think what he is talking about is a woman's right to be hung, beheaded, or put to death by stoning for such criminal acts like adultery.

You know us Republicans, always trying to keep women down.[:/]
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Kansas has become a women friendly state

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/kansas-sharia-law-ban/2012/05/25/id/440342

***Kansas Governor Signs Bill Effectively Banning Shariah



Dude, seriously, you need to get over this one, you are way off base on this whole Sharia law is coming to get us thing. try and be objective in your quest for the truth



Watch Part 1.

http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com/part-1-the-threat-doctrine-of-shariah-the-muslim-brotherhood/
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So in other words, until this law was passed, it was legal for those things to happen to women in Kansas?????

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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So in other words, until this law was passed, it was legal for those things to happen to women in Kansas?????

Wendy P.



Nope

but because of idiot judges using the sharia Kansas saw fit to pass the law so it (the sharia) could not be used in Kansas courts


Do you want foreign laws used in US courts?
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Do you want foreign laws used in US courts?

Like Jewish law?

If both parties want a foreign law to be considered along with (and sub to) US law, then why not? If nothing else, then in a case that might cross international boundaries, it might mean that the case stands in both countries.

Wendy P.
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Kansas has become a women friendly state

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/kansas-sharia-law-ban/2012/05/25/id/440342

***Kansas Governor Signs Bill Effectively Banning Shariah



Dude, seriously, you need to get over this one, you are way off base on this whole Sharia law is coming to get us thing. try and be objective in your quest for the truth



Watch Part 1.

http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com/part-1-the-threat-doctrine-of-shariah-the-muslim-brotherhood/




I watched the first 5 minutes and then scanned through the rest, perhaps you missed the point I was making; while Sharia law is bat-shit crazy and the MB is a bunch of nuts, (I already knew this) there is no proof of Sharia used in a US criminal court.

You video also lost credibility when it refered to "Obama and the Islamic threat" and "Obama and Sharia law"

Name a president who has killed more Islamic Terrorist than Obama? When the going got tough for Dutch with Islamic terrorist, he put his tail between his legs and ran. or did he first sell them weapons?

It's kind of hard to remember now.

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I watched the first 5 minutes and then scanned through the rest, perhaps you missed the point I was making; while Sharia law is bat-shit crazy and the MB is a bunch of nuts, (I already knew this) there is no proof of Sharia used in a US criminal court.

You video also lost credibility when it refered to "Obama and the Islamic threat" and "Obama and Sharia law"

Name a president who has killed more Islamic Terrorist than Obama? When the going got tough for Dutch with Islamic terrorist, he put his tail between his legs and ran. or did he first sell them weapons?

It's kind of hard to remember now.



The point is that a large number of credible Americans are seriously concerned about the spread of the Muslim Brotherhood, Sharia Law and the willingness of liberals to allow it to influence the U.S. government and our way of life.

Take heed my friend. Outside of the People's Republic of California the tension is mounting.
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>So, requiring us courts to use us law is taking away rights

Forbidding people from using whatever language they want in their wills IS taking away rights. But not from you, apparently - so to you it's fine. Which is the same rationale that anti-gun types use for restricting gun rights. "It doesn't affect me so it doesn't matter."

Watch for such attitudes to come back and bite conservatives in the ass - and then listen to them bitch and moan about the "nanny state" they created.

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The point is that a large number of credible Americans are seriously concerned about the spread of the Muslim Brotherhood, Sharia Law and the willingness of liberals to allow it to influence the U.S. government and our way of life.



There's a large number of "credible" people who think 911 was a hoax, the moon landings were faked and Dennis Miller is funny; but not me. The claim has been made over and over that a law was needed to stop Sharia law from being used in US criminal courts, no evidence has been shown.

As Marcello Truzzi once said, "-An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof".

I have yet to see a Muslim down at the local school board, who is frothing at the mouth, about getting back to the morals that are taught in the Quran.

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This reminds of something one would hear in Selma around 1952.

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>So, requiring us courts to use us law is taking away rights

Forbidding people from using whatever language they want in their wills IS taking away rights. But not from you, apparently - so to you it's fine. Which is the same rationale that anti-gun types use for restricting gun rights. "It doesn't affect me so it doesn't matter."

Watch for such attitudes to come back and bite conservatives in the ass - and then listen to them bitch and moan about the "nanny state" they created.


You are going to fun to watch this election cycle

I have not seen this many desperate predictions from you, ever

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and using us law in us courts takes rights away from no one

It protects them

that is what Kansas is taking care of its women
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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